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Jacuzzi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States528 Posts
April 15 2011 00:05 GMT
#21
Saw this coming. NASL is too long and drawn out to actually seriously expect people to be able to play every single game on time considering the sheer volume of games. Whitera shouldn't have been DQ'ed from his game with July because he was one of the EIGHT people invited to freaking Dreamhack. What do they expect him to do, turn down a prestigious invite like Dreamhack and only play NASL and nothing else? Sure Sjow was able to play his game, but he didn't have to play in the finals nor was he thousands of miles away from home.
Tyree
Profile Joined November 2010
1508 Posts
April 15 2011 00:05 GMT
#22
I am glad that NASL is taking action and trying to take all the feedback they have gotten and improve their product already.

Sometimes people think that all criticism = trolling, but that is not always the case, ive seen plenty of fine people right here on TL.net offer geniune great ideas and ways to help them on their way.

They arent burrying their heads in the sand and yelling "WE ARE RIGHT! STOP TROLLING UR WRONG!" and that is a great sign
★ Top Gun ★
Zealotdriver
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1557 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-15 17:34:47
April 15 2011 00:06 GMT
#23
Turn off the radio
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
April 15 2011 00:06 GMT
#24
From now on we will continue to film according to our regular schedule but we will allow players to postpone their match by one day if they need to reschedule because of major LAN events.

This isn't a solution for me, for example, for my conflict with MLG Columbus.
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
ihavetofartosis
Profile Joined January 2011
1277 Posts
April 15 2011 00:07 GMT
#25
Finally. I gotta say I was very upset to see white-ra get a loss because NASL didn't schedule players matches around major tourneys.
zhurai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States5660 Posts
April 15 2011 00:07 GMT
#26
ugh, now I can't actually watch the saturday+sunday ones -.- (well, at least BORDERLINE....sunday, maybe the last 2 idk, and saturday...maybe none, maybe first two) .___.

are there vods?
Twitter: @zhurai | Site: http://zhurai.com
SpiZe
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada3640 Posts
April 15 2011 00:07 GMT
#27
I really appreciate the fact that they are changing stuff so things like Ra - July doesnt happen anymore.
Keeler
Profile Joined November 2010
United States313 Posts
April 15 2011 00:07 GMT
#28
We all know that they decided not to cast games on Tuesday due to SotG lol
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
April 15 2011 00:08 GMT
#29
On April 15 2011 09:06 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
Show nested quote +
From now on we will continue to film according to our regular schedule but we will allow players to postpone their match by one day if they need to reschedule because of major LAN events.

This isn't a solution for me, for example, for my conflict with MLG Columbus.


Hmm. Would "pre-poning" your match by a day help?
ExPresident
Profile Joined January 2010
United States215 Posts
April 15 2011 00:10 GMT
#30
Positive changes ftw. They seem to be making some changes on the fly so we don't have to wait to see improvements. Already day 2 was much better than day 1 imo and this will only continue to be the case.

Keep it up. I'm enjoying the games!
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
April 15 2011 00:10 GMT
#31
On April 15 2011 09:08 TheTenthDoc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2011 09:06 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
From now on we will continue to film according to our regular schedule but we will allow players to postpone their match by one day if they need to reschedule because of major LAN events.

This isn't a solution for me, for example, for my conflict with MLG Columbus.


Hmm. Would "pre-poning" your match by a day help?

Nah I'd need two days. On Thursday afternoon I'll be traveling.
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
MrChex
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-15 00:12:15
April 15 2011 00:11 GMT
#32
Interesting. NASL has been live for two days and they are already running into issues. It is not like there was any precedence for this failure.



On April 15 2011 09:11 MrChex wrote:
Interesting. NASL has been live for two days and they are already running into issues. It is not like there was any precedence for this failure.



You could respect the league you signed up for and wait a day to travel and find a LAN to play in.
NeonPeon
Profile Joined February 2011
93 Posts
April 15 2011 00:12 GMT
#33
They should just build in a bye week. Each player could have one bye week and they could rotate the schedule to accommodate their conflicts.
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
April 15 2011 00:12 GMT
#34
On April 15 2011 09:10 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2011 09:08 TheTenthDoc wrote:
On April 15 2011 09:06 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
From now on we will continue to film according to our regular schedule but we will allow players to postpone their match by one day if they need to reschedule because of major LAN events.

This isn't a solution for me, for example, for my conflict with MLG Columbus.


Hmm. Would "pre-poning" your match by a day help?

Nah I'd need two days. On Thursday afternoon I'll be traveling.


Yikes. I don't envy NASL having to sort these scheduling conflicts especially around MLG time. I really hope they don't end up forcing to you to play during MLG itself or just giving you a loss...
Argolis
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada211 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-15 00:14:34
April 15 2011 00:12 GMT
#35
One of the many expected lumps and bumps for the first week for a such a large endeavor.

The NASL has it's issues that people are quick to be critical of, but it also has it's strengths. And I feel that the open communication and amazing website they have already up and running are a great base for them to communicate their plans to the community.

I feel the transparency professionalism that have been demonstrated by the league and it's staff are a testament to the commitment they have made to bring us a quality league. We can only hope they listen the community's feedback and continue to improve over the next 3(+) seasons.
rolfe
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1266 Posts
April 15 2011 00:14 GMT
#36
does this mean white-ra got fined?
life will not be contained. Life breaks free, it expands to new territories and crashes through barriers, painfully, maybe even dangerously but there it is. Life finds a way
Der_Magen
Profile Joined April 2009
182 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-15 00:16:43
April 15 2011 00:14 GMT
#37
good thing that the NASL changed something about their production process... the way it was handled before would have led to many great macthes not being played

but i think a much more elegant solution to all these problems would be to simply cast the replays
- scheduling would be way easier and more flexible
- there would be no awkward transitions like when gretorp and diggity where hyping a game that was never going to happen. i also can imagine that i might be quite awkward for the whole production team to make a broadcast where one game happens after another out of the live cast where there are obviously some unexpected pauses between the games

imho a live replay cast has much less issues and seems easier to produce than a prerecorded live cast that has been cut together ( which is also way worse than a prerecorded replay cast)
bibbaly
Profile Joined October 2010
98 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-15 00:20:59
April 15 2011 00:16 GMT
#38
Why are you guys bending so far backward? It's the players and managers responsibility to appear on time and not to have conflicting schedules. He wanted to rest before his matches and it sounds like he completely blew you off.

This is YOUR tournament and YOUR money that you are putting up. If the players want to blow that off then penalize them rather than cater. They made the decision to play in the NASL no one put a gun to their head and said play or else, so if they cant show up on time that is their problem and their fault for losing out on the wondrous prize pool.
Aequos
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada606 Posts
April 15 2011 00:17 GMT
#39
On April 15 2011 09:14 Der_Magen wrote:
good thing that the NASL changed something about their production process... the way it was handled before would have led to many great macthes not being played

but i think a much more elegant solution to all these problems would be to simply cast the replays
- scheduling would be way easier and more flexible
- there would be no awkward transitions like when gretorp and diggity where hyping a game that was never going to happen. i also can imagine that i might be quite awkward for the whole production team to make a broadcast where one game happens after another out of the live cast where there are obviously some unexpected pauses between the games

imho a live replay cast has much less issues and seems easier to produce than a prerecorded live cast that has been cut together ( which is also way worse than a prerecorded replay cast)

People were really upset when it was first suggested that they cast replays - in this case, it really is a sort of lose-lose situation.

I do hope they can work something out for Tyler, I really want to see his games.
I first realized Immortals were reincarnated Dragoons when I saw them dancing helplessly behind my Stalkers.
SinCitta
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany2127 Posts
April 15 2011 00:18 GMT
#40
Uhm, am I the only one that does not get it?

So Naniwa does not gain negative points. Is there a policy for that? Because it seems very arbitrary. If so, will the same happen to White-Ra retroactively? As far as I know White-Ra had better reasons for his absence.

Additionally, which message did Naniwa not get? The one which said that the postponement was fine for Strelok? Why is laddering a reason for default-loss (or tie...)? Could be part of his "rest" as laddering is nothing serious and you can relax while doing it. Kinda strange that Dignitas manager had no objections on awarding the game to Strelok.
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