EPTNASL schedule change - Page 4
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baeric
Germany649 Posts
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masterbreti
Korea (South)2711 Posts
doesn't make sense to me as naniwa went and laddered, white-ra had dreamhack the same time as the match. | ||
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Project Psycho
United Kingdom329 Posts
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Bobster
Germany3075 Posts
You're scheduled to play on Wednesday, that shouldn't be a problem. Or are you leaving that early for Columbus? | ||
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LynxKerr
Canada173 Posts
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Hrrrrm
United States2081 Posts
Have players play all their matches the week before and then just sit down and cast replays nonstop. No needing to juggle your casting schedule with players schedule all over the world. The stress will drop dramatically and you'll have all that extra time to focus on production and getting the VOD's out on time. This is not me being a debbie downer but, being realistic. People brought up these concerns in all the threads leading up to the NASL. NASL right now is jumping through IMMENSE hoops for very LITTLE benefit. NASL created a "Live" rigid schedule for no "Live" audience only their casters. All the drawbacks with none of the positives. Makes no sense. | ||
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setzer
United States3284 Posts
On April 15 2011 09:18 SinCitta wrote: Uhm, am I the only one that does not get it? So Naniwa does not gain negative points. Is there a policy for that? Because it seems very arbitrary. If so, will the same happen to White-Ra retroactively? As far as I know White-Ra had better reasons for his absence. Additionally, which message did Naniwa not get? The one which said that the postponement was fine for Strelok? Why is laddering a reason for default-loss (or tie...)? Could be part of his "rest" as laddering is nothing serious and you can relax while doing it. Kinda strange that Dignitas manager had no objections on awarding the game to Strelok. I'll have to echo this statement. White-ra had legitimate reasons for not being able to play his game but for Nani, there really is no excuse. Being "tired" is not valid enough reason to blow off your games vs. Strelok. I'm tired before work but I still go; same with everyone. I'm quite curious to see how the 0-0 will affect things in the case of a tiebreaker. If Nani is 6-1 and Strelok is 6-2 does Strelok advance because he beat Nani? what if its another player? It seems like NASL is complicating things even more. I personally felt the situation with Naniwa was very clear-cut: he didn't want to play his games and was awarded the loss. Why the backtracking and pandering? Management needs to be more firm with its disciplines ESPECIALLY since Naniwa has a history of these kind of behaviors. | ||
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Inky87
United States533 Posts
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gumb3rcul3s
United States4 Posts
The response to I got from mods in the JTV chat was saying casting from replays would cause sync issues like the kind they had in the Clash of the Titans. Then I asked why TSL was able to do it fine. My message was then promptly deleted and I was banned so... ><. Of course casting from replays would upset some people but I don't see how the viewer experience would be different than how it is now. On the other hand it would seem that it would be a benefit to both players and the nasl in terms of easier production. | ||
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Inky87
United States533 Posts
On April 15 2011 09:41 gumb3rcul3s wrote: So I asked in the NASL chat on JTV why they don't just bite the bullet and start to cast from replays. I mean they're already delaying the games by 2 days so I don't know how anyone can still feel there is a semblance of these being live. Casting from replays can still give rise to the emotions people like about live casting as the TSL and other tournaments have shown. There is also the benefit of allowing more leeway with respect to player schedules and making casting the games in a block easier for the casters. The response to I got from mods in the JTV chat was saying casting from replays would cause sync issues like the kind they had in the Clash of the Titans. Then I asked why TSL was able to do it fine. My message was then promptly deleted and I was banned so... ><. Of course casting from replays would upset some people but I don't see how the viewer experience would be different than how it is now. On the other hand it would seem that it would be a benefit to both players and the nasl in terms of easier production. Well you may not know it, but there have been some sync issues I've noticed. The casters prepare for it but you can tell when one of the casters is off by a few seconds. | ||
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nvs.
Canada3609 Posts
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Deleted User 85440
10 Posts
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SpectralFremen
Australia386 Posts
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bibbaly
98 Posts
On April 15 2011 09:45 Inky87 wrote: Well you may not know it, but there have been some sync issues I've noticed. The casters prepare for it but you can tell when one of the casters is off by a few seconds. Yeah, forgot what day it was but when DJWheat was casting a game on Shakuras he was clearly behind by 7 or 8 seconds screaming about a dropship that had already died. | ||
Whitewing
United States7483 Posts
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starcraft911
Korea (South)1263 Posts
By giving FREE points to strelok without taking points away from Naniwa is very unfair to the other players in the group. You guys just added a blunder on a blunder. At least with july vs white-ra you had a zero sum result and the group wasn't hurt. Now you have naniwa ahead of at least 3 players in points without playing any games. That's pretty dumb. I'm a huge naniwa fan, but I'm amazed how you can't see this would cause a problem. | ||
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Deleted User 3420
24492 Posts
On April 15 2011 09:51 starcraft911 wrote: You guys just added a blunder on a blunder. At least with july vs white-ra you had a zero sum result and the group wasn't hurt. Now you have naniwa ahead of at least 3 players in points without playing any games. That's pretty dumb. I'm a huge naniwa fan, but I'm amazed how you can't see this would cause a problem. yes this is a good point | ||
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ShadowWolf
United States197 Posts
On April 15 2011 09:47 bibbaly wrote: Yeah, forgot what day it was but when DJWheat was casting a game on Shakuras he was clearly behind by 7 or 8 seconds screaming about a dropship that had already died. Yeah, it's obvious they have some type of app that helps sync the replays because others have been enormously off with no real way to recover and the TSL is never off by more than a 5 - 10 seconds; however, they've still gotten off-sync by a few seconds here & there most days. Maybe the app is warning them and the casters don't notice it or something - I dunno. Regardless, I think it's a sensible compromise at least for MLG weekend otherwise they're gonna have to shift their schedule by a ton or something; I dunno. At the end of the day, it's awesome NASL is doing their best to make sure we get to see good games and the players aren't shafted out of $250 because leagues other than the NASL exist :-D | ||
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luke3920
United Kingdom182 Posts
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sidesprang
Norway1033 Posts
We're allready down two really epic matches in three days. Im sure that the one day postponing will help but as tyler says it's not enough. And I think everyone agree replay or not, the most important thing is that the games get played. | ||
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