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Guys, this is the kind of things that is bound to happen sometimes, with the schedule they players have now.
NASL handled it fairly, and i see no problem with July getting a 2-0 forfit.
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I just hate some ppl saying WR BMed July by making him wait for 4 hours. It's really weird to think that someone can intentionally do that. Most probably he just didn't have an idea they are still waiting for him, for instance his iphone may have gone off and he assumed he got an auto loss after 45 minutes.
Also it's BS that NASL tried really hard to contact whitera. They did contact sjow, was it so hard to check what's up with whitera through him? They didn't care enough to reschedule beforehand and they didn't put any effort into trying to contact him after the finals.
Some people say it was Whitera's job to contact NASL but seriously given the circumstances NASL was in a much better position to do that. Whitera right after the finals with all the fans and adrenaline rush thinking he's already late and NASL guys just waiting for him in leather chairs and chilling.
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On April 14 2011 23:36 BigJoe wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2011 22:50 Ocedic wrote:On April 14 2011 21:07 BigJoe wrote:
rofl July scared to play White-Ra Yeah that's why July waited 4 hours even though he could've taken the win at 45 minutes. Scared silly. Why is everyone ostracizing someone for the sake of it? Here's a breakdown: July: He was ready for his match, waited for 4 hours when he technically only had to wait 45 minutes. It was a poor choice to give the decision to July, because it makes him look like the bad guy when he is probably the least responsible party here. NASL: They tried to contact White Ra and couldn't. For those saying they should've rescheduled, shut the fuck up. This is a league on a tight schedule with many participants. It's not their job to schedule around 50 people. It is not their fault their participants sign up for conflicting or narrowly conflicting tournaments. The only thing NASL did wrong was putting the burden of choice on JulyZerg instead of just putting their foot down and giving White Ra and automatic forfeit. That was a cop out, but otherwise they did nothing wrong. White Ra: People are judging White Ra way too harshly. Hypothetical worst case scenario: He knew about his match, had ample opportunity to play it, and just blew it off to party. So what? He just got out of a harrowing series with MC. He wants to relax and enjoy his time in Sweden. The only semi dick move is not responding to Xeris' communications, as it left everyone in the dark and made July had to wait. But it's certainly not worth making a huge deal over. It's like you people just want to create mountains out of anthills and make drama out of nowhere. Shit happens, get over it. I agree it was a pretty poor choice of NASL to give the choice to July, but if he was really willing to wait that long why not just reschedule? The matches are not even aired live, they are rebroadcast... so it would be easy to play the match and then air it on a different date. White-Ra should have been more responsible and prepared for this but sometimes people find themselves in a situation where it is not possible to reply. July got an easy win from a hard opponent, guess he doesnt care to win a tournament and not earn it.
He did earn it by showing up. The fact that you are blaming the player who showed up is rather ludicrous.
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Guys, guys, guys. Let it go. There are plenty of games left it's not like he's out of the running yet. This is supposed to be a pretty massive tournament. White-Ra can afford to give the opponents a little bit of a handicap.
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really sad, but i can understand their decision...
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On April 15 2011 00:34 Ocedic wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2011 23:36 BigJoe wrote:On April 14 2011 22:50 Ocedic wrote:On April 14 2011 21:07 BigJoe wrote:
rofl July scared to play White-Ra Yeah that's why July waited 4 hours even though he could've taken the win at 45 minutes. Scared silly. Why is everyone ostracizing someone for the sake of it? Here's a breakdown: July: He was ready for his match, waited for 4 hours when he technically only had to wait 45 minutes. It was a poor choice to give the decision to July, because it makes him look like the bad guy when he is probably the least responsible party here. NASL: They tried to contact White Ra and couldn't. For those saying they should've rescheduled, shut the fuck up. This is a league on a tight schedule with many participants. It's not their job to schedule around 50 people. It is not their fault their participants sign up for conflicting or narrowly conflicting tournaments. The only thing NASL did wrong was putting the burden of choice on JulyZerg instead of just putting their foot down and giving White Ra and automatic forfeit. That was a cop out, but otherwise they did nothing wrong. White Ra: People are judging White Ra way too harshly. Hypothetical worst case scenario: He knew about his match, had ample opportunity to play it, and just blew it off to party. So what? He just got out of a harrowing series with MC. He wants to relax and enjoy his time in Sweden. The only semi dick move is not responding to Xeris' communications, as it left everyone in the dark and made July had to wait. But it's certainly not worth making a huge deal over. It's like you people just want to create mountains out of anthills and make drama out of nowhere. Shit happens, get over it. I agree it was a pretty poor choice of NASL to give the choice to July, but if he was really willing to wait that long why not just reschedule? The matches are not even aired live, they are rebroadcast... so it would be easy to play the match and then air it on a different date. White-Ra should have been more responsible and prepared for this but sometimes people find themselves in a situation where it is not possible to reply. July got an easy win from a hard opponent, guess he doesnt care to win a tournament and not earn it. He did earn it by showing up. The fact that you are blaming the player who showed up is rather ludicrous.
Yeah let me play a 1v4 against MC, MKP, MVP, and JULY then them not show up. automatic win. i should then get sponsored and have my own progaming team because im so gosu. You dont earn wins just by showing up... I didnt blame anybody, it was poor decision making by everyone and July took an easy out. I can rage about it.
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On April 15 2011 00:46 BigJoe wrote:Show nested quote +On April 15 2011 00:34 Ocedic wrote:On April 14 2011 23:36 BigJoe wrote:On April 14 2011 22:50 Ocedic wrote:On April 14 2011 21:07 BigJoe wrote:
rofl July scared to play White-Ra Yeah that's why July waited 4 hours even though he could've taken the win at 45 minutes. Scared silly. Why is everyone ostracizing someone for the sake of it? Here's a breakdown: July: He was ready for his match, waited for 4 hours when he technically only had to wait 45 minutes. It was a poor choice to give the decision to July, because it makes him look like the bad guy when he is probably the least responsible party here. NASL: They tried to contact White Ra and couldn't. For those saying they should've rescheduled, shut the fuck up. This is a league on a tight schedule with many participants. It's not their job to schedule around 50 people. It is not their fault their participants sign up for conflicting or narrowly conflicting tournaments. The only thing NASL did wrong was putting the burden of choice on JulyZerg instead of just putting their foot down and giving White Ra and automatic forfeit. That was a cop out, but otherwise they did nothing wrong. White Ra: People are judging White Ra way too harshly. Hypothetical worst case scenario: He knew about his match, had ample opportunity to play it, and just blew it off to party. So what? He just got out of a harrowing series with MC. He wants to relax and enjoy his time in Sweden. The only semi dick move is not responding to Xeris' communications, as it left everyone in the dark and made July had to wait. But it's certainly not worth making a huge deal over. It's like you people just want to create mountains out of anthills and make drama out of nowhere. Shit happens, get over it. I agree it was a pretty poor choice of NASL to give the choice to July, but if he was really willing to wait that long why not just reschedule? The matches are not even aired live, they are rebroadcast... so it would be easy to play the match and then air it on a different date. White-Ra should have been more responsible and prepared for this but sometimes people find themselves in a situation where it is not possible to reply. July got an easy win from a hard opponent, guess he doesnt care to win a tournament and not earn it. He did earn it by showing up. The fact that you are blaming the player who showed up is rather ludicrous. Yeah let me play a 1v4 against MC, MKP, MVP, and JULY then them not show up. automatic win. i should then get sponsored and have my own progaming team because im so gosu. You dont earn wins just by showing up... I didnt blame anybody, it was poor decision making by everyone and July took an easy out. I can rage about it.
It's so absurd you would rage about that. Everyone is in this to win it, why the hell would July wait four hours just to reschedule? July even had to get up at 4 am..
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On April 15 2011 00:46 BigJoe wrote:Show nested quote +On April 15 2011 00:34 Ocedic wrote:On April 14 2011 23:36 BigJoe wrote:On April 14 2011 22:50 Ocedic wrote:On April 14 2011 21:07 BigJoe wrote:
rofl July scared to play White-Ra Yeah that's why July waited 4 hours even though he could've taken the win at 45 minutes. Scared silly. Why is everyone ostracizing someone for the sake of it? Here's a breakdown: July: He was ready for his match, waited for 4 hours when he technically only had to wait 45 minutes. It was a poor choice to give the decision to July, because it makes him look like the bad guy when he is probably the least responsible party here. NASL: They tried to contact White Ra and couldn't. For those saying they should've rescheduled, shut the fuck up. This is a league on a tight schedule with many participants. It's not their job to schedule around 50 people. It is not their fault their participants sign up for conflicting or narrowly conflicting tournaments. The only thing NASL did wrong was putting the burden of choice on JulyZerg instead of just putting their foot down and giving White Ra and automatic forfeit. That was a cop out, but otherwise they did nothing wrong. White Ra: People are judging White Ra way too harshly. Hypothetical worst case scenario: He knew about his match, had ample opportunity to play it, and just blew it off to party. So what? He just got out of a harrowing series with MC. He wants to relax and enjoy his time in Sweden. The only semi dick move is not responding to Xeris' communications, as it left everyone in the dark and made July had to wait. But it's certainly not worth making a huge deal over. It's like you people just want to create mountains out of anthills and make drama out of nowhere. Shit happens, get over it. I agree it was a pretty poor choice of NASL to give the choice to July, but if he was really willing to wait that long why not just reschedule? The matches are not even aired live, they are rebroadcast... so it would be easy to play the match and then air it on a different date. White-Ra should have been more responsible and prepared for this but sometimes people find themselves in a situation where it is not possible to reply. July got an easy win from a hard opponent, guess he doesnt care to win a tournament and not earn it. He did earn it by showing up. The fact that you are blaming the player who showed up is rather ludicrous. Yeah let me play a 1v4 against MC, MKP, MVP, and JULY then them not show up. automatic win. i should then get sponsored and have my own progaming team because im so gosu. You dont earn wins just by showing up... I didnt blame anybody, it was poor decision making by everyone and July took an easy out. I can rage about it.
Right. Completely change the situation.
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On April 15 2011 00:23 BigJoe wrote:Show nested quote +On April 15 2011 00:01 FliedLice wrote:On April 14 2011 23:52 BigJoe wrote:On April 14 2011 23:44 mcc wrote:On April 14 2011 23:36 BigJoe wrote:On April 14 2011 22:50 Ocedic wrote:On April 14 2011 21:07 BigJoe wrote:
rofl July scared to play White-Ra Yeah that's why July waited 4 hours even though he could've taken the win at 45 minutes. Scared silly. Why is everyone ostracizing someone for the sake of it? Here's a breakdown: July: He was ready for his match, waited for 4 hours when he technically only had to wait 45 minutes. It was a poor choice to give the decision to July, because it makes him look like the bad guy when he is probably the least responsible party here. NASL: They tried to contact White Ra and couldn't. For those saying they should've rescheduled, shut the fuck up. This is a league on a tight schedule with many participants. It's not their job to schedule around 50 people. It is not their fault their participants sign up for conflicting or narrowly conflicting tournaments. The only thing NASL did wrong was putting the burden of choice on JulyZerg instead of just putting their foot down and giving White Ra and automatic forfeit. That was a cop out, but otherwise they did nothing wrong. White Ra: People are judging White Ra way too harshly. Hypothetical worst case scenario: He knew about his match, had ample opportunity to play it, and just blew it off to party. So what? He just got out of a harrowing series with MC. He wants to relax and enjoy his time in Sweden. The only semi dick move is not responding to Xeris' communications, as it left everyone in the dark and made July had to wait. But it's certainly not worth making a huge deal over. It's like you people just want to create mountains out of anthills and make drama out of nowhere. Shit happens, get over it. I agree it was a pretty poor choice of NASL to give the choice to July, but if he was really willing to wait that long why not just reschedule? The matches are not even aired live, they are rebroadcast... so it would be easy to play the match and then air it on a different date. White-Ra should have been more responsible and prepared for this but sometimes people find themselves in a situation where it is not possible to reply. July got an easy win from a hard opponent, guess he doesnt care to win a tournament and not earn it. At that point rescheduling was not an option, they should have rescheduled it long before DH, but that did not happen and so win for July is perfectly reasonable. Also why can't you just argue your point and not take low jabs at July. How was rescheduling not an option? The original post says "After four hours of waiting, we gave July the choice to take a free win or reschedule". Why cant I take jabs at July? It was a game I was really looking forward to. Think about July, he got up at 4am in the middle of the night, then the dude doesn't show up after 45minutes, you decide to wait another 3hours and 15minutes... it's 8am by now and then they ask you wether you want to get up at 4am again on another day risking that he won't show up again or you'll just leave it at that and take the game... I cann totally understand July's decision... NASL should have given him the win right away and not put the decision up to him. Would they have had to reschedule for the same time? Maybe they could have made White-Ra get up at 4am instead since he didnt make it the first time. That way it is at least somewhat fair yah know?
I think all the times come down to when the NASL team is in the studio and not about when the players would have to get up, so koreans might always have the short end of the stick in that regard.
On April 15 2011 00:46 BigJoe wrote:Show nested quote +On April 15 2011 00:34 Ocedic wrote:On April 14 2011 23:36 BigJoe wrote:On April 14 2011 22:50 Ocedic wrote:On April 14 2011 21:07 BigJoe wrote:
rofl July scared to play White-Ra Yeah that's why July waited 4 hours even though he could've taken the win at 45 minutes. Scared silly. Why is everyone ostracizing someone for the sake of it? Here's a breakdown: July: He was ready for his match, waited for 4 hours when he technically only had to wait 45 minutes. It was a poor choice to give the decision to July, because it makes him look like the bad guy when he is probably the least responsible party here. NASL: They tried to contact White Ra and couldn't. For those saying they should've rescheduled, shut the fuck up. This is a league on a tight schedule with many participants. It's not their job to schedule around 50 people. It is not their fault their participants sign up for conflicting or narrowly conflicting tournaments. The only thing NASL did wrong was putting the burden of choice on JulyZerg instead of just putting their foot down and giving White Ra and automatic forfeit. That was a cop out, but otherwise they did nothing wrong. White Ra: People are judging White Ra way too harshly. Hypothetical worst case scenario: He knew about his match, had ample opportunity to play it, and just blew it off to party. So what? He just got out of a harrowing series with MC. He wants to relax and enjoy his time in Sweden. The only semi dick move is not responding to Xeris' communications, as it left everyone in the dark and made July had to wait. But it's certainly not worth making a huge deal over. It's like you people just want to create mountains out of anthills and make drama out of nowhere. Shit happens, get over it. I agree it was a pretty poor choice of NASL to give the choice to July, but if he was really willing to wait that long why not just reschedule? The matches are not even aired live, they are rebroadcast... so it would be easy to play the match and then air it on a different date. White-Ra should have been more responsible and prepared for this but sometimes people find themselves in a situation where it is not possible to reply. July got an easy win from a hard opponent, guess he doesnt care to win a tournament and not earn it. He did earn it by showing up. The fact that you are blaming the player who showed up is rather ludicrous. Yeah let me play a 1v4 against MC, MKP, MVP, and JULY then them not show up. automatic win. i should then get sponsored and have my own progaming team because im so gosu. You dont earn wins just by showing up... I didnt blame anybody, it was poor decision making by everyone and July took an easy out. I can rage about it.
Of course in that case you win by showing up, or more like, you lose by not showing up.
If people miss their call to play at MLG, they lose... If people don't show up at ESL they lose. If people don't make it in time to the Golf Tournament they signed up to, they lose.
why do i even reply to that post... ffs
stop trolling being stupid
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On April 15 2011 00:46 BigJoe wrote:Show nested quote +On April 15 2011 00:34 Ocedic wrote:On April 14 2011 23:36 BigJoe wrote:On April 14 2011 22:50 Ocedic wrote:On April 14 2011 21:07 BigJoe wrote:
rofl July scared to play White-Ra Yeah that's why July waited 4 hours even though he could've taken the win at 45 minutes. Scared silly. Why is everyone ostracizing someone for the sake of it? Here's a breakdown: July: He was ready for his match, waited for 4 hours when he technically only had to wait 45 minutes. It was a poor choice to give the decision to July, because it makes him look like the bad guy when he is probably the least responsible party here. NASL: They tried to contact White Ra and couldn't. For those saying they should've rescheduled, shut the fuck up. This is a league on a tight schedule with many participants. It's not their job to schedule around 50 people. It is not their fault their participants sign up for conflicting or narrowly conflicting tournaments. The only thing NASL did wrong was putting the burden of choice on JulyZerg instead of just putting their foot down and giving White Ra and automatic forfeit. That was a cop out, but otherwise they did nothing wrong. White Ra: People are judging White Ra way too harshly. Hypothetical worst case scenario: He knew about his match, had ample opportunity to play it, and just blew it off to party. So what? He just got out of a harrowing series with MC. He wants to relax and enjoy his time in Sweden. The only semi dick move is not responding to Xeris' communications, as it left everyone in the dark and made July had to wait. But it's certainly not worth making a huge deal over. It's like you people just want to create mountains out of anthills and make drama out of nowhere. Shit happens, get over it. I agree it was a pretty poor choice of NASL to give the choice to July, but if he was really willing to wait that long why not just reschedule? The matches are not even aired live, they are rebroadcast... so it would be easy to play the match and then air it on a different date. White-Ra should have been more responsible and prepared for this but sometimes people find themselves in a situation where it is not possible to reply. July got an easy win from a hard opponent, guess he doesnt care to win a tournament and not earn it. He did earn it by showing up. The fact that you are blaming the player who showed up is rather ludicrous. Yeah let me play a 1v4 against MC, MKP, MVP, and JULY then them not show up. automatic win. i should then get sponsored and have my own progaming team because im so gosu. You dont earn wins just by showing up... I didnt blame anybody, it was poor decision making by everyone and July took an easy out. I can rage about it.
How whould you feel if you have to wake up 4 in the morning to play and your opponent didn't show up. The rule of nasl clearly stated that after 45min if one not showing up means forfeit. He then have to wait another 4 hour and nasl make him choose rather or not you reschedule the game. And please don't make excuse for whitera. Sjow leave dreamhack same time as whitera. WhiteRa is the one went to the afterparty. He got 4 hours to find any location with pc and he can play. There is so many Sweden players around I'm sure one of them would help.
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Why is everyone jumping on July about taking the forfeit? July followed all the rules and allotted an extra four hours even though the NASL rule is 45 MINUTES for a forfeit. It is not like he jumped on the opportunity to take the forfeit immediately.
We also don't know what the "reschedule" even consisted of. White-Ra was put into the position that because of DreamHack he was not able to attend his NASL match. For all we know July was also put into the situation were a reschedule would conflict with other tournaments or alter his schedule in a manner that would be determinant to him.
I would have loved to watch July vs White-Ra, but I don't blame either of them for the situation.
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On April 15 2011 00:22 Darthigor wrote:Show nested quote +On April 15 2011 00:02 Alver wrote:
if july was gonna pick reschedule he would have done it before white-ra made him wait for 4 hours after making him wake up at 4 in the morning. white-ras actions showed july disrespect personally. thats what it comes down to and why if your mad anyone is a better choice to get mad at than july.
i cant stress this enough, theres no 1 person to blame, but no matter what dont blame july. who can say they wouldent be mad if their friend told them to meet someplace the next day at 4am, then when you wake up ready to meet your friend he makes you wait 4 hours while his phone is off. especially when the 3 most likely reasons for missing it were drinking/sleeping/being pissed off. White-Ra didn't ask to wait 4 hours. NASL should have waited 45 min as stated in rules, well maybe an hour because of dreamhack, and just give a win to July. That's July and NASL own fault to prolong this. Probably by doing this they showed a respect for a player like White-ra, so I hope White-Ra will apologize for this unfortunate incident and things go well again 
i actually like your perspective alot and thats exactly what i want to happen. if it was a random player i wouldent have thought much of it, but whitera is my favorite non korean and july isint even in my top 8 koreans (hes probably top 8 skills but i mean as far as being a fan) but its unbelievable how july was being attacked for what white-ra did.
if white-ra is the player i think he is, hes gonna apologise shortly and then everyone can let it go.
itll still be a shame we wont see the epic matchup, but lets hope for them to get matched up on nasl's lan in a couple months.
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As far as I'm concerned, WhiteRa lost after at 45minutes and 1 second after he was scheduled. That July chose to forgo his technical victor for another 3 hours and 15 minutes proves that he is super nice to his opponents, wants to give the fans what they want, and would rather advance in a tournament by playing than through forfeit. Raging at July is frankly ridiculous.
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On April 15 2011 00:46 BigJoe wrote:Show nested quote +On April 15 2011 00:34 Ocedic wrote:On April 14 2011 23:36 BigJoe wrote:On April 14 2011 22:50 Ocedic wrote:On April 14 2011 21:07 BigJoe wrote:
rofl July scared to play White-Ra Yeah that's why July waited 4 hours even though he could've taken the win at 45 minutes. Scared silly. Why is everyone ostracizing someone for the sake of it? Here's a breakdown: July: He was ready for his match, waited for 4 hours when he technically only had to wait 45 minutes. It was a poor choice to give the decision to July, because it makes him look like the bad guy when he is probably the least responsible party here. NASL: They tried to contact White Ra and couldn't. For those saying they should've rescheduled, shut the fuck up. This is a league on a tight schedule with many participants. It's not their job to schedule around 50 people. It is not their fault their participants sign up for conflicting or narrowly conflicting tournaments. The only thing NASL did wrong was putting the burden of choice on JulyZerg instead of just putting their foot down and giving White Ra and automatic forfeit. That was a cop out, but otherwise they did nothing wrong. White Ra: People are judging White Ra way too harshly. Hypothetical worst case scenario: He knew about his match, had ample opportunity to play it, and just blew it off to party. So what? He just got out of a harrowing series with MC. He wants to relax and enjoy his time in Sweden. The only semi dick move is not responding to Xeris' communications, as it left everyone in the dark and made July had to wait. But it's certainly not worth making a huge deal over. It's like you people just want to create mountains out of anthills and make drama out of nowhere. Shit happens, get over it. I agree it was a pretty poor choice of NASL to give the choice to July, but if he was really willing to wait that long why not just reschedule? The matches are not even aired live, they are rebroadcast... so it would be easy to play the match and then air it on a different date. White-Ra should have been more responsible and prepared for this but sometimes people find themselves in a situation where it is not possible to reply. July got an easy win from a hard opponent, guess he doesnt care to win a tournament and not earn it. He did earn it by showing up. The fact that you are blaming the player who showed up is rather ludicrous. Yeah let me play a 1v4 against MC, MKP, MVP, and JULY then them not show up. automatic win. i should then get sponsored and have my own progaming team because im so gosu. You dont earn wins just by showing up... I didnt blame anybody, it was poor decision making by everyone and July took an easy out. I can rage about it.
wow.. I guess people like you are the reason there's a 33 page long about this... lol..
it was single unfortunate incident and the way it was handled was totally reasonable. Shit happens, it's unfortunate, end of story. White_Ra I'm sure is perfectly fine with the decision... to actually "rage" at July as if he did something wrong is completely ridiculous.. I mean I can't even wrap my head around how someone would actually be pissed at July for this... makes no logical sense whatsoever..
poor decision making by everyone? WTF are you talking about? so what exactly would you have done in their place? please enlighten us as to what the proper course of action would have been since your such a genius...
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On April 15 2011 00:53 lazyfeet wrote:
How whould you feel if you have to wake up 4 in the morning to play and your opponent didn't show up. The rule of nasl clearly stated that after 45min if one not showing up means forfeit. He then have to wait another 4 hour and nasl make him choose rather or not you reschedule the game. And please don't make excuse for whitera. Sjow leave dreamhack same time as whitera. WhiteRa is the one went to the afterparty. He got 4 hours to find any location with pc and he can play. There is so many Sweden players around I'm sure one of them would help.
Yea, white-ra should've found some pc cafe with sweden language windows and starcraft installed, with unfamiliar keyboard and mouse, and without any rest after hard matches against best players from the world. Then lose 0-2 to July fairly (irony)
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Wait, this thread is still going on and there are ppl who dare to blame july out of all ppl?
This is getting ridiculous.
The dude stays up/wakes up at 4am, waits another 4 hour and he is the bad guy all of the sudden for taking a win?
We should not blame anyone before we know 100% what is going on here tbh.
However, i am dissapointed in the NASL for shoving the responsibility to july instead of acting like an organisation and deciding themselves.
It's not their fault but as the organisers they should take the responsibility and all the consequences till everything is figured out.
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I agree with Assirra on at least one point, this should be a very cut-and-dry case in the rules, and shouldn't be put on the player. Exceptions only make things more difficult if there are repeat situations.
"But you gave White-Ra a 4 hour grace period! Why do I get a forfeit after only one hour?"
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On April 15 2011 01:04 Darthigor wrote:Show nested quote +On April 15 2011 00:53 lazyfeet wrote:
How whould you feel if you have to wake up 4 in the morning to play and your opponent didn't show up. The rule of nasl clearly stated that after 45min if one not showing up means forfeit. He then have to wait another 4 hour and nasl make him choose rather or not you reschedule the game. And please don't make excuse for whitera. Sjow leave dreamhack same time as whitera. WhiteRa is the one went to the afterparty. He got 4 hours to find any location with pc and he can play. There is so many Sweden players around I'm sure one of them would help. Yea, white-ra should've found some pc cafe with sweden language windows and starcraft installed, with unfamiliar keyboard and mouse, and without any rest after hard matches against best players from the world. Then lose 0-2 to July fairly (irony)
He knew about the match, was in contact with NASL and then ignored further inquiries. There were people at DH that could have assisted him. He either forgot or didn't want to play; either way the whole thing was handled in a reasonable manner.
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On April 15 2011 01:12 syllogism wrote:
He knew about the match, was in contact with NASL and then ignored further inquiries.
How do you know that? He knew he was late and his phone might have just gone off. Are you sure he got all the messages and *ignored* NASL and July on purpose? That's a bold statement to make.
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I don't understand why they wouldn't reschedule right from the beginning? It's NASL's fault if july has to wake up at 4 and wait for hours on end, if they were just assuming that white-ra wouldn't make it to the finals.
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