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ch4ppi
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany802 Posts
April 28 2011 17:15 GMT
#1641
Actually the easiest way to improve is to make it viable for me...

In germany many people dont have credit cards (thats at least true for my friends and me). I Really Think u NEED to get the Paypal working. I mean u are literaly loosing money by not offering PAYPAL. I want to give u my money, but I cant, because I dont want to get a credit card just for the NASL.
Long story short:
- You need PAYPAL ASAP!
Peekaboo
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada219 Posts
April 28 2011 18:13 GMT
#1642

I've been happy with the improvements. The sound was much better yesterday, for example.

I've never had much of a problem with stream lag at 1080p. Once and a while I'll have to refresh a few times for a couple of minutes and then it clears up.

Making fun of Rainbow made me laugh. It might have gone on for a bit too long, but wtf supply blocked at 19, lining up his scvs for the hellions, and generally playing like a bronze leaguer. The game wasn't worth commentating apart from making fun of it. Watching Rainbow is like watching a great out-of-shape athlete. Its good to change gears based on the game and the time in the game. Casting is entertainment, after all.

My only suggestion would be to keep improving the production quality. And casters work hard on vocabulary. Words are used repeatedly, and some incorrectly. And work on the zerg perspective, sometimes what you say about a zerg player seems unfair given what they could scout and what they could possibly have produced (although July zerg often proves me wrong so I might be wrong too, haha).
You loved me as a loser but now you're worried that I just might win. -L. Cohen
Blurio
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany288 Posts
April 28 2011 18:15 GMT
#1643
The best thing that could happen to the Starcraft 2 casting community would be getting rid of the fucking T-Shirt/Blazer combo.
Bizarro252
Profile Joined January 2011
180 Posts
April 28 2011 18:22 GMT
#1644
On April 28 2011 17:48 outerspace02 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2011 14:58 iNcontroL wrote:
On April 28 2011 14:53 x6Paramore wrote:
On April 28 2011 11:29 iNcontroL wrote:
On April 28 2011 10:15 x6Paramore wrote:
I think one of the casters needs to be less critical. You aren't trying to teach a lesson on live stream... you aren't giving a day9 daily and you aren't coaching anyone either. You are there to bring the event to life. Describe what is going on, analyze the situation at hand, but don't go TOO in depth about what the other player "should" have done. Yeah, its okay to mention what he could have done... but you aren't there to commentate on what the game would have looked like if both players played perfectly.

Objectivity is pretty key in what I just mentioned as well.


Disagree. One of the benefits of having 2 progamer casters is they can dissect the game and talk about the mistakes / other options.

Not sure why you would ever want less information in a cast. We can just gush over everything these guys do if you like.. nah, that'd be bad.


You guys basically do gush over everything these guys do... saying.. "this is bad, this is the wrong way" Then today there was an instance, where you targeted a player and his team-mates saying they should have a clan meeting and get their shit together. Whether that is right or wrong, it just destroys the quality of the show. Do you see tasteless and artosis calling out team Slayers during a GSL cast, saying they really need to shape up a particular player or have a team meeting?

Forget tastosis, it would be unreasonable to compare professionals who have done this longer than you. I won't even expect you to be as objective as TotalBiscuit, who you claim to have no game knowledge, when in fact, most noobs probably learn way more about SC2 watching him than hearing you talk about "how awesome the creep spread is" for 20 seconds every zerg match you see... Seriously, you mention it way too often... a simple half-second mention of "great creep spread here by zerg" is good enough for something so menial.

What I expect from watching something that is sponsored and paid and has cash prizes to the amounts that can compare to GSL, is professionalism and objectivity. Otherwise, I might as well be watching Fox News dubbed over NASL trashing how bad "Blue" is in one corner and promoting how awesome "Red" is on the other corner with absolutely no basis or quality facts to prove it.

Also, being better at the game does not mean you know more about the game. Just like how professional hockey commentators can't necessarily play professional hockey. Therefore it is not that big of an advantage to have professional commentators over commentators that are less skilled in the game itself but have a much better social presentation of their content.

Yes, being professional gamers does give you an advantage over random scrubs that have never touched a microphone or played the game, but again, it does not give you much of an advantage over someone like Day9 or Artosis or TotalBiscuit or Tasteless.

Furthermore, being overcritical about players specific actions just ends up being more whiney. I don't need to see some grown ass man raging about why a certain zerg left the game abruptly player uprooted his spine-crawlers at a bad moment at his expansion on close positions in Shattered Temple. All a commentator needs to do is recognize that that particular player felt it was time to throw in the towel and move on. There's no need to go into a 60 second rant about how its the NASL and he should have tried to play out the game. You have no idea what the player is thinking in his head. Maybe he has a better picture of his status than you do and in his mind he felt he lost, which is pretty much as good as losing the game already. (But yeah thats getting way too specific)

Either way, thats my 2cents, you can take it or leave it. If all I hear is going to be incessant whining about particular details or what-ifs that draw attention from what really matters on the camera, then I can always mute. None the less, this thread asked for my opinion and I gave it.

Regards.

P.S. its not about less content, its about more quality content. Right now its IMHO not good.


We've been called too complementary. Honestly you are the first to call us "overly critical."

Frankly I think both are fine

Thx though!


good to see this thread is going to good use

lmao



Ya, can you please release some comments on the issues you can actually fix, and fix QUICKLY like the video and sound quality and lag issues that 60-70% of these posts are complaining about. I see your reading this thread, why not reply to the most concerned about issues?

iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
April 28 2011 18:24 GMT
#1645
On April 29 2011 03:22 Bizarro252 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2011 17:48 outerspace02 wrote:
On April 28 2011 14:58 iNcontroL wrote:
On April 28 2011 14:53 x6Paramore wrote:
On April 28 2011 11:29 iNcontroL wrote:
On April 28 2011 10:15 x6Paramore wrote:
I think one of the casters needs to be less critical. You aren't trying to teach a lesson on live stream... you aren't giving a day9 daily and you aren't coaching anyone either. You are there to bring the event to life. Describe what is going on, analyze the situation at hand, but don't go TOO in depth about what the other player "should" have done. Yeah, its okay to mention what he could have done... but you aren't there to commentate on what the game would have looked like if both players played perfectly.

Objectivity is pretty key in what I just mentioned as well.


Disagree. One of the benefits of having 2 progamer casters is they can dissect the game and talk about the mistakes / other options.

Not sure why you would ever want less information in a cast. We can just gush over everything these guys do if you like.. nah, that'd be bad.


You guys basically do gush over everything these guys do... saying.. "this is bad, this is the wrong way" Then today there was an instance, where you targeted a player and his team-mates saying they should have a clan meeting and get their shit together. Whether that is right or wrong, it just destroys the quality of the show. Do you see tasteless and artosis calling out team Slayers during a GSL cast, saying they really need to shape up a particular player or have a team meeting?

Forget tastosis, it would be unreasonable to compare professionals who have done this longer than you. I won't even expect you to be as objective as TotalBiscuit, who you claim to have no game knowledge, when in fact, most noobs probably learn way more about SC2 watching him than hearing you talk about "how awesome the creep spread is" for 20 seconds every zerg match you see... Seriously, you mention it way too often... a simple half-second mention of "great creep spread here by zerg" is good enough for something so menial.

What I expect from watching something that is sponsored and paid and has cash prizes to the amounts that can compare to GSL, is professionalism and objectivity. Otherwise, I might as well be watching Fox News dubbed over NASL trashing how bad "Blue" is in one corner and promoting how awesome "Red" is on the other corner with absolutely no basis or quality facts to prove it.

Also, being better at the game does not mean you know more about the game. Just like how professional hockey commentators can't necessarily play professional hockey. Therefore it is not that big of an advantage to have professional commentators over commentators that are less skilled in the game itself but have a much better social presentation of their content.

Yes, being professional gamers does give you an advantage over random scrubs that have never touched a microphone or played the game, but again, it does not give you much of an advantage over someone like Day9 or Artosis or TotalBiscuit or Tasteless.

Furthermore, being overcritical about players specific actions just ends up being more whiney. I don't need to see some grown ass man raging about why a certain zerg left the game abruptly player uprooted his spine-crawlers at a bad moment at his expansion on close positions in Shattered Temple. All a commentator needs to do is recognize that that particular player felt it was time to throw in the towel and move on. There's no need to go into a 60 second rant about how its the NASL and he should have tried to play out the game. You have no idea what the player is thinking in his head. Maybe he has a better picture of his status than you do and in his mind he felt he lost, which is pretty much as good as losing the game already. (But yeah thats getting way too specific)

Either way, thats my 2cents, you can take it or leave it. If all I hear is going to be incessant whining about particular details or what-ifs that draw attention from what really matters on the camera, then I can always mute. None the less, this thread asked for my opinion and I gave it.

Regards.

P.S. its not about less content, its about more quality content. Right now its IMHO not good.


We've been called too complementary. Honestly you are the first to call us "overly critical."

Frankly I think both are fine

Thx though!


good to see this thread is going to good use

lmao



Ya, can you please release some comments on the issues you can actually fix, and fix QUICKLY like the video and sound quality and lag issues that 60-70% of these posts are complaining about. I see your reading this thread, why not reply to the most concerned about issues?



I have absolutely no influence on technical things and I do not operate the editing station at all. I merely commentate.

I can relay that they are absolutely aware of the issues and that is why they are progressively getting better. The lag has been reduced. The sound was near perfect in the last cast etc.
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
April 28 2011 18:26 GMT
#1646
On April 28 2011 17:48 outerspace02 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2011 14:58 iNcontroL wrote:
On April 28 2011 14:53 x6Paramore wrote:
On April 28 2011 11:29 iNcontroL wrote:
On April 28 2011 10:15 x6Paramore wrote:
I think one of the casters needs to be less critical. You aren't trying to teach a lesson on live stream... you aren't giving a day9 daily and you aren't coaching anyone either. You are there to bring the event to life. Describe what is going on, analyze the situation at hand, but don't go TOO in depth about what the other player "should" have done. Yeah, its okay to mention what he could have done... but you aren't there to commentate on what the game would have looked like if both players played perfectly.

Objectivity is pretty key in what I just mentioned as well.


Disagree. One of the benefits of having 2 progamer casters is they can dissect the game and talk about the mistakes / other options.

Not sure why you would ever want less information in a cast. We can just gush over everything these guys do if you like.. nah, that'd be bad.


You guys basically do gush over everything these guys do... saying.. "this is bad, this is the wrong way" Then today there was an instance, where you targeted a player and his team-mates saying they should have a clan meeting and get their shit together. Whether that is right or wrong, it just destroys the quality of the show. Do you see tasteless and artosis calling out team Slayers during a GSL cast, saying they really need to shape up a particular player or have a team meeting?

Forget tastosis, it would be unreasonable to compare professionals who have done this longer than you. I won't even expect you to be as objective as TotalBiscuit, who you claim to have no game knowledge, when in fact, most noobs probably learn way more about SC2 watching him than hearing you talk about "how awesome the creep spread is" for 20 seconds every zerg match you see... Seriously, you mention it way too often... a simple half-second mention of "great creep spread here by zerg" is good enough for something so menial.

What I expect from watching something that is sponsored and paid and has cash prizes to the amounts that can compare to GSL, is professionalism and objectivity. Otherwise, I might as well be watching Fox News dubbed over NASL trashing how bad "Blue" is in one corner and promoting how awesome "Red" is on the other corner with absolutely no basis or quality facts to prove it.

Also, being better at the game does not mean you know more about the game. Just like how professional hockey commentators can't necessarily play professional hockey. Therefore it is not that big of an advantage to have professional commentators over commentators that are less skilled in the game itself but have a much better social presentation of their content.

Yes, being professional gamers does give you an advantage over random scrubs that have never touched a microphone or played the game, but again, it does not give you much of an advantage over someone like Day9 or Artosis or TotalBiscuit or Tasteless.

Furthermore, being overcritical about players specific actions just ends up being more whiney. I don't need to see some grown ass man raging about why a certain zerg left the game abruptly player uprooted his spine-crawlers at a bad moment at his expansion on close positions in Shattered Temple. All a commentator needs to do is recognize that that particular player felt it was time to throw in the towel and move on. There's no need to go into a 60 second rant about how its the NASL and he should have tried to play out the game. You have no idea what the player is thinking in his head. Maybe he has a better picture of his status than you do and in his mind he felt he lost, which is pretty much as good as losing the game already. (But yeah thats getting way too specific)

Either way, thats my 2cents, you can take it or leave it. If all I hear is going to be incessant whining about particular details or what-ifs that draw attention from what really matters on the camera, then I can always mute. None the less, this thread asked for my opinion and I gave it.

Regards.

P.S. its not about less content, its about more quality content. Right now its IMHO not good.


We've been called too complementary. Honestly you are the first to call us "overly critical."

Frankly I think both are fine

Thx though!


good to see this thread is going to good use

lmao


It's a tips and recommendation thread... not a "here is what you MUST do thread."

We don't take everyone's advice and apply it to practice. You wouldn't actually want that btw!

lmao
Falcor
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada894 Posts
April 28 2011 18:34 GMT
#1647
On April 29 2011 03:26 iNcontroL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2011 17:48 outerspace02 wrote:
On April 28 2011 14:58 iNcontroL wrote:
On April 28 2011 14:53 x6Paramore wrote:
On April 28 2011 11:29 iNcontroL wrote:
On April 28 2011 10:15 x6Paramore wrote:
I think one of the casters needs to be less critical. You aren't trying to teach a lesson on live stream... you aren't giving a day9 daily and you aren't coaching anyone either. You are there to bring the event to life. Describe what is going on, analyze the situation at hand, but don't go TOO in depth about what the other player "should" have done. Yeah, its okay to mention what he could have done... but you aren't there to commentate on what the game would have looked like if both players played perfectly.

Objectivity is pretty key in what I just mentioned as well.


Disagree. One of the benefits of having 2 progamer casters is they can dissect the game and talk about the mistakes / other options.

Not sure why you would ever want less information in a cast. We can just gush over everything these guys do if you like.. nah, that'd be bad.


You guys basically do gush over everything these guys do... saying.. "this is bad, this is the wrong way" Then today there was an instance, where you targeted a player and his team-mates saying they should have a clan meeting and get their shit together. Whether that is right or wrong, it just destroys the quality of the show. Do you see tasteless and artosis calling out team Slayers during a GSL cast, saying they really need to shape up a particular player or have a team meeting?

Forget tastosis, it would be unreasonable to compare professionals who have done this longer than you. I won't even expect you to be as objective as TotalBiscuit, who you claim to have no game knowledge, when in fact, most noobs probably learn way more about SC2 watching him than hearing you talk about "how awesome the creep spread is" for 20 seconds every zerg match you see... Seriously, you mention it way too often... a simple half-second mention of "great creep spread here by zerg" is good enough for something so menial.

What I expect from watching something that is sponsored and paid and has cash prizes to the amounts that can compare to GSL, is professionalism and objectivity. Otherwise, I might as well be watching Fox News dubbed over NASL trashing how bad "Blue" is in one corner and promoting how awesome "Red" is on the other corner with absolutely no basis or quality facts to prove it.

Also, being better at the game does not mean you know more about the game. Just like how professional hockey commentators can't necessarily play professional hockey. Therefore it is not that big of an advantage to have professional commentators over commentators that are less skilled in the game itself but have a much better social presentation of their content.

Yes, being professional gamers does give you an advantage over random scrubs that have never touched a microphone or played the game, but again, it does not give you much of an advantage over someone like Day9 or Artosis or TotalBiscuit or Tasteless.

Furthermore, being overcritical about players specific actions just ends up being more whiney. I don't need to see some grown ass man raging about why a certain zerg left the game abruptly player uprooted his spine-crawlers at a bad moment at his expansion on close positions in Shattered Temple. All a commentator needs to do is recognize that that particular player felt it was time to throw in the towel and move on. There's no need to go into a 60 second rant about how its the NASL and he should have tried to play out the game. You have no idea what the player is thinking in his head. Maybe he has a better picture of his status than you do and in his mind he felt he lost, which is pretty much as good as losing the game already. (But yeah thats getting way too specific)

Either way, thats my 2cents, you can take it or leave it. If all I hear is going to be incessant whining about particular details or what-ifs that draw attention from what really matters on the camera, then I can always mute. None the less, this thread asked for my opinion and I gave it.

Regards.

P.S. its not about less content, its about more quality content. Right now its IMHO not good.


We've been called too complementary. Honestly you are the first to call us "overly critical."

Frankly I think both are fine

Thx though!


good to see this thread is going to good use

lmao


It's a tips and recommendation thread... not a "here is what you MUST do thread."

We don't take everyone's advice and apply it to practice. You wouldn't actually want that btw!

lmao


Idk if you did...you would undoubtedly have the most interesting show on the internet lol
Bleak
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Turkey3059 Posts
April 28 2011 18:40 GMT
#1648
To Gretorp and Incontrol: I think your casting has become sooo great now that you're comfortable with working together and I'm really enjoying it just wanted to drop it here to give kinda feedback about it. Keep it up NASL ftw!
"I am a beacon of knowledge blazing out across a black sea of ignorance. "
Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
April 28 2011 18:44 GMT
#1649
On April 29 2011 03:15 Blurio wrote:
The best thing that could happen to the Starcraft 2 casting community would be getting rid of the fucking T-Shirt/Blazer combo.



LOL. I agree, a decent and ironed shirt with a reasonable hair cut would probably suffice.

Soliduok
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada222 Posts
April 28 2011 18:57 GMT
#1650
I'm sure this has also been mentioned but I'm late to the party and I can't be certain it has been said so here it goes:

The T-shirt blazer combo looks kinda silly. The only reason I can see you doing this is because thats what Tastosis wear in the GSL. But this isn't the GSL and you shouldnt be doing what "everyone else" is. Just T-shirts or sweaters would look infinitely better.

Also, the background and studio looks like it gets used as a gloryhole porn shoot at night. Or perhaps it just gets folded up and thrown in the back of a trailer. The black on black on black looks cheap and would do much better if the camera can get moved so we don't see the top of the desk and if the backdrop perhaps contained color.

I like the stream quality, commentating, and well basically everything else though!

Thank you for the awesome tournament,
outerspace02
Profile Joined March 2011
United States136 Posts
April 28 2011 19:38 GMT
#1651
On April 29 2011 03:26 iNcontroL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2011 17:48 outerspace02 wrote:
On April 28 2011 14:58 iNcontroL wrote:
On April 28 2011 14:53 x6Paramore wrote:
On April 28 2011 11:29 iNcontroL wrote:
On April 28 2011 10:15 x6Paramore wrote:
I think one of the casters needs to be less critical. You aren't trying to teach a lesson on live stream... you aren't giving a day9 daily and you aren't coaching anyone either. You are there to bring the event to life. Describe what is going on, analyze the situation at hand, but don't go TOO in depth about what the other player "should" have done. Yeah, its okay to mention what he could have done... but you aren't there to commentate on what the game would have looked like if both players played perfectly.

Objectivity is pretty key in what I just mentioned as well.


Disagree. One of the benefits of having 2 progamer casters is they can dissect the game and talk about the mistakes / other options.

Not sure why you would ever want less information in a cast. We can just gush over everything these guys do if you like.. nah, that'd be bad.


You guys basically do gush over everything these guys do... saying.. "this is bad, this is the wrong way" Then today there was an instance, where you targeted a player and his team-mates saying they should have a clan meeting and get their shit together. Whether that is right or wrong, it just destroys the quality of the show. Do you see tasteless and artosis calling out team Slayers during a GSL cast, saying they really need to shape up a particular player or have a team meeting?

Forget tastosis, it would be unreasonable to compare professionals who have done this longer than you. I won't even expect you to be as objective as TotalBiscuit, who you claim to have no game knowledge, when in fact, most noobs probably learn way more about SC2 watching him than hearing you talk about "how awesome the creep spread is" for 20 seconds every zerg match you see... Seriously, you mention it way too often... a simple half-second mention of "great creep spread here by zerg" is good enough for something so menial.

What I expect from watching something that is sponsored and paid and has cash prizes to the amounts that can compare to GSL, is professionalism and objectivity. Otherwise, I might as well be watching Fox News dubbed over NASL trashing how bad "Blue" is in one corner and promoting how awesome "Red" is on the other corner with absolutely no basis or quality facts to prove it.

Also, being better at the game does not mean you know more about the game. Just like how professional hockey commentators can't necessarily play professional hockey. Therefore it is not that big of an advantage to have professional commentators over commentators that are less skilled in the game itself but have a much better social presentation of their content.

Yes, being professional gamers does give you an advantage over random scrubs that have never touched a microphone or played the game, but again, it does not give you much of an advantage over someone like Day9 or Artosis or TotalBiscuit or Tasteless.

Furthermore, being overcritical about players specific actions just ends up being more whiney. I don't need to see some grown ass man raging about why a certain zerg left the game abruptly player uprooted his spine-crawlers at a bad moment at his expansion on close positions in Shattered Temple. All a commentator needs to do is recognize that that particular player felt it was time to throw in the towel and move on. There's no need to go into a 60 second rant about how its the NASL and he should have tried to play out the game. You have no idea what the player is thinking in his head. Maybe he has a better picture of his status than you do and in his mind he felt he lost, which is pretty much as good as losing the game already. (But yeah thats getting way too specific)

Either way, thats my 2cents, you can take it or leave it. If all I hear is going to be incessant whining about particular details or what-ifs that draw attention from what really matters on the camera, then I can always mute. None the less, this thread asked for my opinion and I gave it.

Regards.

P.S. its not about less content, its about more quality content. Right now its IMHO not good.


We've been called too complementary. Honestly you are the first to call us "overly critical."

Frankly I think both are fine

Thx though!


good to see this thread is going to good use

lmao


It's a tips and recommendation thread... not a "here is what you MUST do thread."

We don't take everyone's advice and apply it to practice. You wouldn't actually want that btw!

lmao


its about ur attitude
outerspace02
Profile Joined March 2011
United States136 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-28 19:47:37
April 28 2011 19:46 GMT
#1652
On April 29 2011 00:04 Defacer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2011 17:45 outerspace02 wrote:
On April 28 2011 17:32 Defacer wrote:
On April 28 2011 17:16 openbox1 wrote:
Wish IGN had scooped up the sponsers and players that NASL did. Then we could have had a proper League. Kinda unlucky for both players and viewers.


IGN has done nothing but prove they host a solid invitational with pre-recorded games and decent graphics and audio.


bitter much? NASL's games are pre-recorded also

IGN probably chose their schedule because it was what they felt they could handle while maintaining a vivid and interesting product

one of the biggest complaints about the NASL is its unnecessary length (which is almost definitely cutting into the overall production value)


Actually, it's length addresses a lot complaints from the community.

Many people, including most players and hardcore fans, often complete about the lack of parity in most tournament structures, particularly simplistic single-elimination invitationals. They're fun and entertaining but aren't designed to actually determine who the best player is.

No one's forcing you to watch the entire season. If you're a fair weather fan -- the kind that only starts paying attention to hockey during the playoffs, for instance -- than there's nothing stopping you from doing that.

The NASL and IPL are offering entirely different products with different goals. One's an international start-up league, with a lot of glitches, trying to be the western equivalent to GSL. The other is a variation of the HD World Tournament, with more casters and better graphic overlays.

The IPL might develop into something more, but I'm just stunned that people think that you can just amalgamate to two, magically, into a perfect product with the snap of a finger.


you can keep talking and talking and berating the same points over and over again

the fact is, they are both pre-recorded broadcasts of SC2 matches. what their actual intentions are, what their goals were before they both started, do not matter when you are comparing the way they are operating right now (which as far as im concerned actually legitimizes your argument in a way since working under this framework doesnt take into consideration pre-league hype)

thanks for the bold and implied name calling tho

edit: im not checking this thread again
Greggor
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden119 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-28 19:57:39
April 28 2011 19:55 GMT
#1653
Saw the stream for the first time in a week today and gotta say the casting have improved alot (INcontrol was great). Much more relaxed and fun to listen too. Stream fps had a better flow too. Just hoping for some 720p vods now since my laptop cant handle flash in 1080p
what ?
Soap
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Brazil1546 Posts
April 28 2011 20:00 GMT
#1654
On April 29 2011 03:15 Blurio wrote:
The best thing that could happen to the Starcraft 2 casting community would be getting rid of the fucking T-Shirt/Blazer combo.


Absolutely. I remember one time when Gretorp casted alone, he did look very sharp wearing a dress shirt with the blazer.

Sounds like a petty issue but it's something very easy to improve on.
eloist
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1017 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-28 20:01:40
April 28 2011 20:01 GMT
#1655
On April 29 2011 03:57 Soliduok wrote:
I'm sure this has also been mentioned but I'm late to the party and I can't be certain it has been said so here it goes:

The T-shirt blazer combo looks kinda silly. The only reason I can see you doing this is because thats what Tastosis wear in the GSL. But this isn't the GSL and you shouldnt be doing what "everyone else" is. Just T-shirts or sweaters would look infinitely better.

Also, the background and studio looks like it gets used as a gloryhole porn shoot at night. Or perhaps it just gets folded up and thrown in the back of a trailer. The black on black on black looks cheap and would do much better if the camera can get moved so we don't see the top of the desk and if the backdrop perhaps contained color.

I like the stream quality, commentating, and well basically everything else though!

Thank you for the awesome tournament,

In what sense do men in tshirts look better than men in tshirts and blazers?
furymonkey
Profile Joined December 2008
New Zealand1587 Posts
April 28 2011 20:03 GMT
#1656
On April 29 2011 03:15 Blurio wrote:
The best thing that could happen to the Starcraft 2 casting community would be getting rid of the fucking T-Shirt/Blazer combo.


Yea wtf.... I keep wondering about this, it's actually look a lot better if you just wear a proper shirt instead of T-Shift with the Blazer.

With a nice shirt you don't even need Blazer to look professional.
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Wren
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States745 Posts
April 28 2011 20:03 GMT
#1657
A few requests:
Game sound please. Seeing these games without their sound (even at a low level) is weird. Makes it seem like the game is just background for the cast.
Jokes, even overly self-indulgent ones, are charming, but there's a point at which this is a starcraft cast. I don't pay for incontrol to be funny, even if he is. I'm trying to watch high-level starcraft.
Similar point: please, please, casters, try to be more on top of what's going on in the game. There's plenty of excitement and activity in the battles of the game, I shouldn't need to be watching the minimap and supply count to get a feel for the game flow.
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eloist
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1017 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-28 20:07:06
April 28 2011 20:04 GMT
#1658
On April 29 2011 05:03 furymonkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2011 03:15 Blurio wrote:
The best thing that could happen to the Starcraft 2 casting community would be getting rid of the fucking T-Shirt/Blazer combo.


Yea wtf.... I keep wondering about this, it's actually look a lot better if you just wear a proper shirt instead of T-Shift with the Blazer.

With a nice shirt you don't even need Blazer to look professional.

Agreed. Though it looks silly if people don't wear that normally and have no clue what a good or bad fitting shirt/blazer is.
Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
April 28 2011 20:27 GMT
#1659
On April 29 2011 05:04 eloist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2011 05:03 furymonkey wrote:
On April 29 2011 03:15 Blurio wrote:
The best thing that could happen to the Starcraft 2 casting community would be getting rid of the fucking T-Shirt/Blazer combo.


Yea wtf.... I keep wondering about this, it's actually look a lot better if you just wear a proper shirt instead of T-Shift with the Blazer.

With a nice shirt you don't even need Blazer to look professional.

Agreed. Though it looks silly if people don't wear that normally and have no clue what a good or bad fitting shirt/blazer is.


The only 'tip' I would offer is to dress in clean, well-fitting clothes that you fill comfortable with.

Funnily enough though, I think Gretorp would look good in a shirt, blazer and tie. He'd be quite dapper.

InControl should probably where a shirt and blazer, without a tie. His options are more limited because frankly, he's a big guy and his huge arms would be distracting. He probably sweats a lot, too. The last think we want is to see the guy's pit stains.

I can't being I'm even posting about this.

Tamel
Profile Joined March 2011
United States166 Posts
April 28 2011 20:30 GMT
#1660
I remember back to the first NASL, and then today's match-ups...all I can say is keep up the great work, you guys definitely have made an amazing tourney and special props to Gretorp, and InC. Your casting is amazing and hilarious, don't stop please! I might end up snagging a season ticket after all
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