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Zerokaiser
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada885 Posts
April 16 2011 19:19 GMT
#921
There's so much you could say that would make it better, but the fact is the entire thing is just wrong.

The casters are bad.
The production value is awful
There's no excitement, no sense of reality, no passion.

Watching the NASL feels like watching a mediocre youtube caster's gimmick, where he casts a bunch of replays while pretending it's a tournament.

All of this from a guy who was so brazen as to say that he's the only human being with the qualities it takes to make the NASL happen.

If this is "raising the bar of western eSports" then I'll stick to Korea. There are hundreds, if not thousands of people on Team Liquid who could do infinitely better with eSports in North America if they had the funding.
Lanaia is love.
Meldrath
Profile Joined June 2010
United States620 Posts
April 16 2011 19:28 GMT
#922
I was happy with the annoucement that they were reading this thread and taking these things into considerations.. where else will you get so much imput into a show your watching?
slap me I must be dreaming another "imba" arugment! fffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuu!!!!!
starcraft911
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Korea (South)1263 Posts
April 16 2011 19:28 GMT
#923
The Legacy of NASL is shaping up to be the tournament where the most anticipated matches never happen...

july v white-ra
naniwa v strelok

and from if what i just read is right, mc vs brat_ok.

As a spectator I don't care if they play the games 2 weeks late, I want to see the games. This tournament is after all about the games. Either broaden the times the games can be played or make the punishment such that players won't be out at the bar drinking or laddering when their match is to be played.
Hurlbag
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom46 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-16 19:34:47
April 16 2011 19:31 GMT
#924
On April 17 2011 04:19 Zerokaiser wrote:
There's so much you could say that would make it better, but the fact is the entire thing is just wrong.

The casters are bad.
The production value is awful
There's no excitement, no sense of reality, no passion.

Watching the NASL feels like watching a mediocre youtube caster's gimmick, where he casts a bunch of replays while pretending it's a tournament..


Harsh, but I have to agree to some extent.

Compared to GSL, it just feels very 'dead' and completley lacks atmosphere - one thing I thought NASL would have is a live studio audience with the players duking it out in the background on stage - really needs some music for the intermissions too.

Another thing I feel kills the mood is the extremely bland set in which the casters are presented.
The lighting is dim, the wall on the background is just black with 'NASL' on it, it looks like an interrogation room.
They could atleast have some interesting art in the background, kinda like how the casters were presented for the first couple of MLG's (Day9 + JP/Wheat).

Perhaps i'm being a bit critical as NASL has just launched, but I did think there would be a bit more effort put into it.
We're in the stickiest situation since sticky the stick insect got stuck on a sticky bun.
Offhand
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1869 Posts
April 16 2011 20:14 GMT
#925
So the third no-show has happened in the first week. Games need to get recorded significantly ahead of time or this shit will probably continue. This record early in the day -> stream during primetime plan made sense, but players simply aren't scheduling around NASL. So either NASL needs to schedule around the players, or anticipated matches will keep falling through.
Greggor
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden119 Posts
April 16 2011 20:22 GMT
#926
I would like to see some improvements to the observer movements. Particulary in the early game. A lot of klicking and moving the mouse around which is distracting, like dragselecting worker, an observer dont really need to spam up the APM. Not a big thing, just something that annoys me sometimes.
what ?
Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
April 16 2011 20:34 GMT
#927
this tread is great i mean i am your side in narly all of your oppinions.

this tread should be sticky and send direct to incontrol
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dark fury
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden426 Posts
April 16 2011 21:02 GMT
#928
On April 17 2011 04:28 Meldrath wrote:
I was happy with the annoucement that they were reading this thread and taking these things into considerations..

Then why is Gretorp still there :/?
UberThing
Profile Joined April 2010
Great Britain410 Posts
April 16 2011 21:10 GMT
#929
Watch the interviews for the IGN tournament. It hasnt even started yet!!!
NASL could learn something.

The whole IGN thing is class. The prize pool is low, but they explained they need more time for permission from Blizzard.
I just like how they operate. NASL please up the production values. None of this out of step stuff. Get the replays a bit in advance~ a few days perhaps?
The cutting the other day just looked odd.
Wag1
Baarn
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2702 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-17 01:03:33
April 17 2011 00:52 GMT
#930
The pregame segment should be live so they aren't hyping matches that aren't gonna take place. Could also place the player discussion/hype before the match is broadcast so we aren't sitting for an hour. Cut the player discussion/hype to like 5-10 minutes max also. This is a league and they will play again in the 3 month span. No need for the "life story" before the action begins. The casters will get to talk about them again.
There's no S in KT. :P
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12024 Posts
April 17 2011 00:54 GMT
#931
Also the pre-game stuff should be before each game, not all at the start. I'm listening to stuff I'm going to forget by the time I get to see the matches.
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dsperg
Profile Joined January 2011
United States37 Posts
April 17 2011 00:57 GMT
#932
On April 17 2011 04:19 Zerokaiser wrote:
There's so much you could say that would make it better, but the fact is the entire thing is just wrong.

The casters are bad.
The production value is awful
There's no excitement, no sense of reality, no passion.

Watching the NASL feels like watching a mediocre youtube caster's gimmick, where he casts a bunch of replays while pretending it's a tournament.

All of this from a guy who was so brazen as to say that he's the only human being with the qualities it takes to make the NASL happen.

If this is "raising the bar of western eSports" then I'll stick to Korea. There are hundreds, if not thousands of people on Team Liquid who could do infinitely better with eSports in North America if they had the funding.


then you do it bro.
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
April 17 2011 00:58 GMT
#933
On April 17 2011 06:02 dark fury wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2011 04:28 Meldrath wrote:
I was happy with the annoucement that they were reading this thread and taking these things into considerations..

Then why is Gretorp still there :/?

As much as I still think Gretorp is a bad caster,

1. He's probably on a contract.
2. They can't find someone to replace him on the fly.
3. Casters can improve.
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Count9
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China10928 Posts
April 17 2011 01:00 GMT
#934
Gretorp is a great caster, people are crazy lol. That aside, I think the problem with it not feeling like a tournament is gonna change 3-4 weeks in when the groups actually have stats rather than just 1 win or 1 loss.
Zerokaiser
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada885 Posts
April 17 2011 01:01 GMT
#935
On April 17 2011 09:57 dsperg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2011 04:19 Zerokaiser wrote:
There's so much you could say that would make it better, but the fact is the entire thing is just wrong.

The casters are bad.
The production value is awful
There's no excitement, no sense of reality, no passion.

Watching the NASL feels like watching a mediocre youtube caster's gimmick, where he casts a bunch of replays while pretending it's a tournament.

All of this from a guy who was so brazen as to say that he's the only human being with the qualities it takes to make the NASL happen.

If this is "raising the bar of western eSports" then I'll stick to Korea. There are hundreds, if not thousands of people on Team Liquid who could do infinitely better with eSports in North America if they had the funding.


then you do it bro.


Give me fifty grand bro.
Lanaia is love.
Mercury-
Profile Joined December 2010
Great Britain804 Posts
April 17 2011 01:04 GMT
#936
2 things:

- They need to do the player introductions before each individual match, not one whole block. It's simply annoying for the hardcore fans and turns the casual viewers off.

- Since they already have Khaldor to cast some games, they absolutely need to get TaKe to cast Goody's games. He is probably his biggest fan and having him cast Goody's games always equals a comedy goldmine.
ch0c0b0fr34k
Profile Joined October 2010
United States452 Posts
April 17 2011 01:06 GMT
#937
On April 17 2011 10:01 Zerokaiser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2011 09:57 dsperg wrote:
On April 17 2011 04:19 Zerokaiser wrote:
There's so much you could say that would make it better, but the fact is the entire thing is just wrong.

The casters are bad.
The production value is awful
There's no excitement, no sense of reality, no passion.

Watching the NASL feels like watching a mediocre youtube caster's gimmick, where he casts a bunch of replays while pretending it's a tournament.

All of this from a guy who was so brazen as to say that he's the only human being with the qualities it takes to make the NASL happen.

If this is "raising the bar of western eSports" then I'll stick to Korea. There are hundreds, if not thousands of people on Team Liquid who could do infinitely better with eSports in North America if they had the funding.


then you do it bro.


Give me fifty grand bro.


I'd give this guy 50 grand if it meant there was a chance it'd be better than NASL now...
Pew pew!
dsperg
Profile Joined January 2011
United States37 Posts
April 17 2011 01:08 GMT
#938
Umm you guys realize 50k is just the prize pool. I assure you there's a lot more involved in this than that.

Can't tell if srs.....
Aetherial
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia917 Posts
April 17 2011 01:16 GMT
#939
1) The lighting in the studio needs some work... lots of shadows around the presenters, interviewers etc.

2) Khaldor really needs a better mic... he sounds really distorted.
HEROwithNOlegacy
Profile Joined June 2010
United States850 Posts
April 17 2011 01:18 GMT
#940
not only are the observers being changed constantly, but the casters keep switching out. Get a permanent observer who has experiencing observing high level games. Most of the casting is dull as well, except when iNcontroL is casting he is good at keeping the cast lively and full of emotion as well as giving solid game knowledge, hope to see more consistent appearances from the face of NASL.
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