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ThE_OsToJiY
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Canada1167 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-12 04:55:43
March 12 2011 04:53 GMT
#81
Yea, @drewbie agreed he doesn't make it look like he hacks if he does, but there are just so many oddities with his play, and even though I am a better mechanical player than he is he managed to take a good number of games off me.

Also @ ret he did that in between proxy to me as well without scouting...
@ostojiy
KaluGOSU
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States171 Posts
March 12 2011 04:56 GMT
#82
Wow, I figured this kid hacked. I played him on ladder a few times, analyzed the replays and he had some weird timings, never scouted or scanned me either. It was just too weird, also knowing he's a top player, they usually scan to see where your opponents army is, not once did he scan.. I'm very glad that someone pointed this out. Appreciate it Protech

iGware is very bm too >__>
Halt! Thou shalt not pass. Thou hast much anger, young one
ThE_OsToJiY
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Canada1167 Posts
March 12 2011 04:58 GMT
#83
On March 12 2011 13:56 KaluGOSU wrote:
Wow, I figured this kid hacked. I played him on ladder a few times, analyzed the replays and he had some weird timings, never scouted or scanned me either. It was just too weird, also knowing he's a top player, they usually scan to see where your opponents army is, not once did he scan.. I'm very glad that someone pointed this out. Appreciate it Protech

iGware is very bm too >__>


Really? He was super nice to me.

Guess he likes me more...
@ostojiy
Utinni
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1196 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-12 05:01:32
March 12 2011 04:59 GMT
#84
I want this kid to show up to ANY big tourney and show ANY results. Not gonna happen because he hacks.GL iGware. Hide under your rock.

*Edit: LAN I mean. He won't show or he won't compete with people watching him. If anyone is watching him, he will fail.
“... you don’t have to be Sun freakin Tzu to know that real fighting isn’t about killing or even hurting the other guy, it’s about scaring him enough to call it a day.” - Max Brooks: World War Z
HuK
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada1591 Posts
March 12 2011 04:59 GMT
#85
from my limited experience with both of them they have no honor so it wouldnt surprise me if both or either of them hacked/cheated whatever. all the same tho without solid concrete proof i would point fingers.
ProgamerLive like a God or die like a Slave 11:11
ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States435 Posts
March 12 2011 05:00 GMT
#86
On March 12 2011 13:50 PinkPrincess wrote:
Yes cFChosen, that's me.

I do not share my account with anyone, however. We've nearly got Sorcery set up streaming, but it's like dragging a horse through mud with how bad he is at these tech things



I just have to make this point real quick, when the stream gets set up, it would be pretty dumb to run a hack on stream, right? So I realized that the stream really isn't going to make much of a difference, what we'll have to find out is if he was in actuality hacking before he starts streaming.
Greenworld
Profile Joined March 2011
93 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-12 05:02:17
March 12 2011 05:01 GMT
#87
Ok the thing is , this is very pathetic and if this threat is not locked soon i am disapointed. It's clear that in game 1 he didn't map hack someone posted here a really good "what and why he did that scenario".

I watched the 2'nd game and what to they see a z massing zerlings , the problem most of you come up with is why is he making so many bunkers but let's think you go for :
ling-roches - they have roches+marines - they win
ling+mutas- you do some initial damage with the mutas but after they have marines + lots of minerals from the salvaged bunkers - they win
ling+ling ... you lose
ling+banelings = only way to really defend is bunkers.

and let's not forget maybe they know your style , maybe you are not as good as you think especially after watching the first replay where it's JUST ...... Let's say he is a hacker ... well those replays don't prove anything , so in my eyes he is not guilty and you are just pathetic unless you come with good profs.

Oh and my other question is when do mutas come when you have taken your natural ? at around what time ? - and don't tell me they had no ideea your partner took his natural ... he walked that queen all the way from the main base to kill an overlord to hide mutas , worth it if it was at the natural MAYBE .... ?

And the most important defense for the last game , because i repeat the others are pathetic ... MAYBE they know your playstile and that's pretty clear.

I know hackers are a problem , but sometimes some of us rage so much because we consider the opponent a retard and only way he could have placed a engineering bay at that time is he hacked , no way he knew i was going dts ... considering i had 2 gases and i have low amount of units or why did he make an observer then or why did he move a part of his army next to his mineral line or why did he make a viking or ... the list can go on : IT"S CALLED GAME SENSE and knowing your opponent and what they can do and what they usually do.
Sorry this was long but the few that try to defend compared to the ones that AAAAA hacker is amazing considering they don't watch the replays.
PowerDes
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States520 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-12 05:03:52
March 12 2011 05:02 GMT
#88
On March 12 2011 13:59 Liquid`HuK wrote:
from my limited experience with both of them they have no honor so it wouldnt surprise me if both or either of them hacked/cheated whatever. all the same tho without solid concrete proof i would point fingers.

Have you played against LaTeGaMe? I think they might be the same people
They have similar APM and same control groups
twitch.tv/PowerDes
ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States435 Posts
March 12 2011 05:02 GMT
#89
On March 12 2011 13:59 Liquid`HuK wrote:
from my limited experience with both of them they have no honor so it wouldnt surprise me if both or either of them hacked/cheated whatever. all the same tho without solid concrete proof i would point fingers.



By the way, you recently played iGware under a different name: LaTeGaMe.

I dont know how the games went but when i looked @ the match history he 6 pooled you on a huge map.
RoyalFlush1994
Profile Joined February 2011
Singapore30 Posts
March 12 2011 05:03 GMT
#90
o my gosh i hate hackers!!!! wow!!!!
top the flop on the mississippi
Utinni
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1196 Posts
March 12 2011 05:03 GMT
#91
On March 12 2011 14:01 Greenworld wrote:
Ok the thing is , this is very pathetic and if this threat is not locked soon i am disapointed. It's clear that in game 1 he didn't map hack someone posted here a really good "what and why he did that scenario".

I watched the 2'nd game and what to they see a z massing zerlings , the problem most of you come up with is why is he making so many bunkers but let's think you go for :
ling-roches - they have roches+marines - they win
ling+mutas- you do some initial damage with the mutas but after they have marines + lots of minerals from the salvaged bunkers - they win
ling+ling ... you lose
ling+banelings = only way to really defend is bunkers.

and let's not forget maybe they know your style , maybe you are not as good as you think especially after watching the first replay where it's JUST ...... Let's say he is a hacker ... well those replays don't prove anything , so in my eyes he is not guilty and you are just pathetic unless you come with good profs.

Oh and my other question is when do mutas come when you have taken your natural ? at around what time ? - and don't tell me they had no ideea your partner took his natural ... he walked that queen all the way from the main base to kill an overlord to hide mutas , worth it if it was at the natural MAYBE .... ?

And the most important defense for the last game , because i repeat the others are pathetic ... MAYBE they know your playstile and that's pretty clear.

I know hackers are a problem , but sometimes some of us rage so much because we consider the opponent a retard and only way he could have placed a engineering bay at that time is he hacked , no way he knew i was going dts ... considering i had 2 gases and i have low amount of units or why did he make an observer then or why did he move a part of his army next to his mineral line or why did he make a viking or ... the list can go on : IT"S CALLED GAME SENSE and knowing your opponent and what they can do and what they usually do.
Sorry this was long but the few that try to defend compared to the ones that AAAAA hacker is amazing considering they don't watch the replays.


I don't buy it for a second. This kid is a joke and the more people watch him the more he will fail. If he enters any big tourney live. he won't compete, i promise.
“... you don’t have to be Sun freakin Tzu to know that real fighting isn’t about killing or even hurting the other guy, it’s about scaring him enough to call it a day.” - Max Brooks: World War Z
Utinni
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1196 Posts
March 12 2011 05:04 GMT
#92
Actually. Everyone vote him into NASL so I can watch him fail.
“... you don’t have to be Sun freakin Tzu to know that real fighting isn’t about killing or even hurting the other guy, it’s about scaring him enough to call it a day.” - Max Brooks: World War Z
Flashback-
Profile Joined November 2010
65 Posts
March 12 2011 05:05 GMT
#93
I know sorcery used to play on NeverDawn and got to the top20 on the blizzard top200 around october, but hasn't played a game on it since then. Is that account banned? lol
ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States435 Posts
March 12 2011 05:06 GMT
#94
On March 12 2011 14:05 Flashback- wrote:
I know sorcery used to play on NeverDawn and got to the top20 on the blizzard top200 around october, but hasn't played a game on it since then. Is that account banned? lol




yes
RtS-Schism
Profile Joined August 2010
United States25 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-12 05:09:42
March 12 2011 05:06 GMT
#95
i have to imagine this is just reps of ProTechMarine being outplayed.
HuK
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada1591 Posts
March 12 2011 05:06 GMT
#96
On March 12 2011 13:59 Liquid`HuK wrote:
from my limited experience with both of them they have no honor so it wouldnt surprise me if both or either of them hacked/cheated whatever. all the same tho without solid concrete proof i would'nt point fingers.



edit : "wouldn't"
ProgamerLive like a God or die like a Slave 11:11
Baarn
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2702 Posts
March 12 2011 05:07 GMT
#97
On March 12 2011 14:04 Utinni wrote:
Actually. Everyone vote him into NASL so I can watch him fail.


Why would anyone want to waste a spot on an alleged hacker for a national tournament to prove something Blizzard will figure out?
There's no S in KT. :P
Aflixion
Profile Joined August 2010
United States191 Posts
March 12 2011 05:08 GMT
#98
I don't know if this will amount to anything, but it certainly seems to fit with the trend I've seen here. I was at the UC Berkeley tournament on Feb 26, and iGware took out both PainUser and EGAxslav back to back. Everyone there was wondering who iGware was, since he wasn't physically at the event. He ended up winning 3rd place (or 4th, I don't remember and don't have the results handy), but didn't show up to claim his prize.

After that experience with him, reading this thread wasn't much of a surprise to me.
idonthinksobro
Profile Joined December 2010
3138 Posts
March 12 2011 05:10 GMT
#99
the decision making in the TvT game seems fishy, he also has very little apm to be one of the best in the world. He is probably hacking but the replay shows very little proof.
The first 2v2 rgame yeah you guys have a million zerglings left after you killed of his zerg. Kinda safe to assume there is gonna be a baneling bust.
The second 2v2 game, kinda same logic applies - you guys just keep spamming lings and they can see 40+ lings so the most reasonable thing to do is assuming baneling busts going roaches + making the wall stronger seems to be just smart.
RHMVNovus
Profile Joined October 2010
United States738 Posts
March 12 2011 05:11 GMT
#100
On March 12 2011 14:04 Utinni wrote:
Actually. Everyone vote him into NASL so I can watch him fail.


No. I like the idea and I like creatively punishing people, but that would undermine the credibility of the largest American StarCraft venture thus far. This is something that as an eSport we do not want.

Like the creativity, though. I was like 'Holy shit this is a great idea' initially, but then I reconsidered.
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