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ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States443 Posts
March 12 2011 03:00 GMT
#21
I don't think you guys understand how a hacker thinks. You can't make everything obvious, this is the same as in brood war, which is why TT1 was never caught, and eventually he was caught. This will the exact same case, I have never been wrong on my intuition of a hacker.
Nemireck
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1875 Posts
March 12 2011 03:00 GMT
#22
It's fairly obvious that he's a hacker from watching those replays.

It's nice that Blizzard gave the perspective cam to us in SC2 so that we know exactly where a player is looking at any point in time during a game. Likely ban incoming for this clown
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ccHaZaRd
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada1024 Posts
March 12 2011 03:03 GMT
#23
On March 12 2011 11:56 Looky wrote:
why is blizzard so bad and creating anti hack. even iccup stopped most of it.


yea... they like collecting a bunch of information and accounts and do ban waves, but this causes a burst of hacking in between waves (like what we are seeing now)
Nemireck
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1875 Posts
March 12 2011 03:03 GMT
#24
On March 12 2011 11:57 Diks wrote:
I've watched yhe first replay and there is absolutely no sign of him hacking.


Then you weren't watching closely enough. There are multiple times where he looks into the Fog of War (note: he has no legitimate vision) and changes his decisions based on what he sees.
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mastergriggy
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1312 Posts
March 12 2011 03:06 GMT
#25
On March 12 2011 12:00 ProTech wrote:
I don't think you guys understand how a hacker thinks. You can't make everything obvious, this is the same as in brood war, which is why TT1 was never caught, and eventually he was caught. This will the exact same case, I have never been wrong on my intuition of a hacker.


If only your grammar was as 1337 hackarh good as your intuition...

Seriously though, who cares? If he hacks during ladder play, good for him. Add to hacker database and be done with it. He'll get what's coming. There really isn't a need for so much speculation over some person who just might be good at the game. Maybe it's a smurf account for all it's worth. Who knows?
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Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Japan1926 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-12 03:44:42
March 12 2011 03:06 GMT
#26
On March 12 2011 11:46 vincewchan wrote:
Apparently iGware has an account on ------- (Hacking forum) made on Febuary 10th 2011.



Definitely an interesting post, however, bad to post an actual link to a site that hosts hacks for the game.

I will be watching how this progresses, very peculiar indeed.
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ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States443 Posts
March 12 2011 03:21 GMT
#27
On March 12 2011 12:06 mastergriggy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2011 12:00 ProTech wrote:
I don't think you guys understand how a hacker thinks. You can't make everything obvious, this is the same as in brood war, which is why TT1 was never caught, and eventually he was caught. This will the exact same case, I have never been wrong on my intuition of a hacker.


If only your grammar was as 1337 hackarh good as your intuition...

Seriously though, who cares? If he hacks during ladder play, good for him. Add to hacker database and be done with it. He'll get what's coming. There really isn't a need for so much speculation over some person who just might be good at the game. Maybe it's a smurf account for all it's worth. Who knows?



Sorry, I tend to make typos when I type and play same time ^_^.

At any rate if this was just some random player obviously I could care less, however this is a guy we're talking top 5 not only in america, but in the WORLD. So I just assumed it would be a good idea to burn him so that he does not get the recognition as top players are supposed to, and how TL.net feels about hackers this seemed like a good thread to throw down.
wonderwall
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
New Zealand695 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-12 03:30:58
March 12 2011 03:23 GMT
#28
Seems hilariously obvious in the last replay of the 2v2 game. The baneling nest goes down. He looks at the base, sees it, and makes a great wall of china out of buildings while his partner pumps roaches. It's an incredibly specific series of actions which counters what you were doing completely.
MuteZephyr
Profile Joined August 2010
Lithuania448 Posts
March 12 2011 03:24 GMT
#29
This looks pretty damning to me. Couple that with the recent membership to a site that apparently distributes hacks, and he not only put himself to shame, but his entire team as well.

@ The guy who said that he made 6 bunkers in response to an un-scouted bling bust: how the hell is that not cheating. I've never seen a build where you're supposed to drop 6 bunkers at the same time. Lol.

GTFO hacker.
I don't Micro, I FEMTO. That's 9 orders of magnitude more extreme.
ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States443 Posts
March 12 2011 03:26 GMT
#30
On March 12 2011 12:23 wonderwall wrote:
Seems hilariously obvious in the last replay of the 2v2 game. The baneling nest goes down. He looks at the base, sees it, and makes a great wall of china out of buildings while his opponent pumps roaches. It's an incredibly specific series of actions which counters what you were doing completely.



I literally rofl'd at your adjectives, nice post brah. ROFL
Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10366 Posts
March 12 2011 03:26 GMT
#31
Sorry but how about you let Blizzard decide?

Although I'll read anyways cus hacking is interesting xD (not that i support it).
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Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5712 Posts
March 12 2011 03:26 GMT
#32
I just watched the first replay, the 1v1. Saw no sign of hacking and you plain out beat him anyway. Never glanced through fog, never was prepared for your drops or harass. I didn't see the problem there.
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ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States443 Posts
March 12 2011 03:28 GMT
#33
On March 12 2011 12:26 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
Sorry but how about you let Blizzard decide?

Although I'll read anyways cus hacking is interesting xD (not that i support it).



Blizzard hasn't exactly been on top of things, I do understand that they are trying to make their case against zynastor and relinquish the hackers is a timely process, but I think the people should know who the real hackers are.
stevarius
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1394 Posts
March 12 2011 03:36 GMT
#34
On March 12 2011 12:03 ccHaZaRd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2011 11:56 Looky wrote:
why is blizzard so bad and creating anti hack. even iccup stopped most of it.


yea... they like collecting a bunch of information and accounts and do ban waves, but this causes a burst of hacking in between waves (like what we are seeing now)

Which is why the policy of banning hackers as the programs are detected will always be better.

Their excuses about hackers being able to figure out how to hide their cheat programs are dumb in comparison to the damage done by people rampantly hacking until huge ban waves that are few and far between.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
TommyLove
Profile Joined January 2011
United States24 Posts
March 12 2011 03:39 GMT
#35
help i'm so confused. who is hacking? igware or sorcery? could it be one incredible player that plays on two accounts?
rixaN
Profile Joined January 2011
United States12 Posts
March 12 2011 03:41 GMT
#36
Sorcery was a well known hacker in DotA. Same thing, he would join teams, play in online events, never go to LANs. Eventually he was exiled from the community and i would sincerely doubt it just happens to be the exact same stuff (always prepared without having the information, never being surprised, etc.), absolutely not a coincidence.
caradoc
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada3022 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-12 03:43:25
March 12 2011 03:43 GMT
#37
On the one hand, this is interesting because he's a top ranked player and the replays are quite suggestive.

On the other hand, this is turning into a witchhunt, and on top of it there is a thread for hackers already, so I'm anticipating it will get closed like the other igware thread.
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ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States443 Posts
March 12 2011 03:46 GMT
#38
On March 12 2011 12:39 TommyLove wrote:
help i'm so confused. who is hacking? igware or sorcery? could it be one incredible player that plays on two accounts?



Hokay here's a little better explanation:


David Zhu on real ID friend list = iGware

Josh Price on real ID friend list = Sorcery

iGware is top 5 1v1 in the world.

Sorcery is playing on iGware's account.

So it is safe to assume that it is not David Zhu hacking, but Josh Price
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
March 12 2011 03:46 GMT
#39
On March 12 2011 12:43 caradoc wrote:
On the one hand, this is interesting because he's a top ranked player and the replays are quite suggestive.

On the other hand, this is turning into a witchhunt, and on top of it there is a thread for hackers already, so I'm anticipating it will get closed like the other igware thread.


The witch hunt aspect is a bit disturbing, but given the circumstances of this case, I think it would be best if Blizzard were to check (I assume they actually try to detect hackers), because he was #1 on their top 200 last week. You just can't have a hacker be there like that, it's no good for the game.
SniXSniPe
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1938 Posts
March 12 2011 03:46 GMT
#40
I've said this before... I'll say it again because he's being accused.

iGware played CSL matches even though he already graduated from Berkeley--- they were caught and are forfeited those matches pretty much, and now are out of the playoffs.

That's cheating a system, and now he's being accused of maphacking makes me disappointed and more against him...


BUT, I have yet to watch the replays. Innocent until proven guilty? >_<
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