EPTiGware Hacking [ you decide ] reps included. - Page 6
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Vei
United States2845 Posts
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ProTech
United States488 Posts
On March 12 2011 14:10 idonthinksobro wrote: the decision making in the TvT game seems fishy, he also has very little apm to be one of the best in the world. He is probably hacking but the replay shows very little proof. The first 2v2 rgame yeah you guys have a million zerglings left after you killed of his zerg. Kinda safe to assume there is gonna be a baneling bust. The second 2v2 game, kinda same logic applies - you guys just keep spamming lings and they can see 40+ lings so the most reasonable thing to do is assuming baneling busts going roaches + making the wall stronger seems to be just smart. It's not like they knew that bandit had lings, I didn't even show his lings until the banelings were coming. | ||
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Utinni
Canada1196 Posts
On March 12 2011 14:07 Baarn wrote: Why would anyone want to waste a spot on an alleged hacker for a national tournament to prove something Blizzard will figure out? Well, I hope they do. It's not like he has turned to hacking overnight.Skeptical play for a while is discouraging. Yet nothing has been done. I rather see results. | ||
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Utinni
Canada1196 Posts
On March 12 2011 14:14 Vei wrote: you guys are being far too generous. with his mechanics, lack of scouting, macro etc., there's no way he doesn't hack. you don't have diamond macro and get to 4100 points, you get there by being a fucking ridiculously good player. Oblivious really. It's quite tragic. | ||
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ccHaZaRd
Canada1024 Posts
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Rotodyne
United States2263 Posts
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Baarn
United States2702 Posts
On March 12 2011 14:14 Utinni wrote: Well, I hope they do. It's not like he has turned to hacking overnight.Skeptical play for a while is discouraging. Yet nothing has been done. I rather see results. There's a bunch of other people I'd rather see in NASL than this guy right now. If he participated in some smaller tournaments or even MLG playing some exciting games I'd change my mind. | ||
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Greenworld
93 Posts
GOGO 150 apm 1 base and can't even move your zerlings right .... how would you consider that ? | ||
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ProTech
United States488 Posts
On March 12 2011 14:28 Greenworld wrote: Ok i decided to watch the 1'st game too ... YOU MUST BE ..... he could see 90% of what you were doing he could see what units you made , he knew how many gases you had and let's be serious blame the APM ? in 3'rd game one of the zergs had 1 base made only lings , didn't micro at all just sat with them and had 150+ apm ... i know to bad apm doesn't mean that much in sc2 when you just sit with your army and spam buttons ... but hey you can call slow ppl hackers. Before qq here about the rushes he does watch the replay of what he sees and stop spaming those buttons and THINK ( how much did day[9] say you need apm to do everything in sc2 ? or he is one that has no ideea about the game - 60-70 apm ). So until i see AT least him intercepting a drop or something .. GET serious i did more "hacking" then him. So don't blame the apm , there were slow players even in sc1 that did great things , it's not the fastest that wins most of the time. GOGO 150 apm 1 base and can't even move your zerlings right .... how would you consider that ? EDIT: Bad manner removed. | ||
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kasumimi
Greece460 Posts
On March 12 2011 11:28 ProTech wrote: 20:18, look @ how he looks into the fog of war for a second, then sends all those marines to expos. this is why he didn't notice the drop in the clouded area, he was busy hacking. LOL? He goes up the ramp to avoid the planetary, then blindly sends a certain amount of marines to the other expo? knowing that shit was being made into planetary. This part of the replay give him away. He is VERY careful to now show he is hacking but that part makes it crystal clear. I was very reluctant when I saw this thread but it's just sad to see top world rank player getting there by hacking -_- | ||
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Aui_2000
Canada435 Posts
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Skyze
Canada2324 Posts
On March 12 2011 14:28 Greenworld wrote: Ok i decided to watch the 1'st game too ... YOU MUST BE ..... he could see 90% of what you were doing he could see what units you made , he knew how many gases you had and let's be serious blame the APM ? in 3'rd game one of the zergs had 1 base made only lings , didn't micro at all just sat with them and had 150+ apm ... i know to bad apm doesn't mean that much in sc2 when you just sit with your army and spam buttons ... but hey you can call slow ppl hackers. Before qq here about the rushes he does watch the replay of what he sees and stop spaming those buttons and THINK ( how much did day[9] say you need apm to do everything in sc2 ? or he is one that has no ideea about the game - 60-70 apm ). So until i see AT least him intercepting a drop or something .. GET serious i did more "hacking" then him. So don't blame the apm , there were slow players even in sc1 that did great things , it's not the fastest that wins most of the time. GOGO 150 apm 1 base and can't even move your zerlings right .... how would you consider that ? You dont understand how "good hackers" think.. Of course they aren't going to blind intercept a drop or something BLATANTLY obvious.. that will just make it super easy for them to get caught. They try THEIR HARDEST to not get caught.. Watch the 2v2 games, where they slip up on hiding it and start looking at the fog/making 6 bunkers without scouting the banelings.. Thats where they get caught. They didnt MEAN to get caught, but in the heat of the moment, small things slip, and thats where you find your hacker. | ||
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SkCom
Canada229 Posts
We'll have to see if he actually gets considered and rejects the offer. Let's be honest, I can buy an argument that he doesn't like playing in 100 dollar tournaments, but a life changing 100 000 dollar one... Anyways, I was reserving judgement and still am, however seeing Huk, Ret, Drewbie and others all agree on fishy play...not to mention the guy is number 2 US and n12 worldwide. We're not talking some random guy here. | ||
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Greenworld
93 Posts
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HowSoOnIsNow
Canada480 Posts
On March 12 2011 14:28 Greenworld wrote: Ok i decided to watch the 1'st game too ... YOU MUST BE ..... he could see 90% of what you were doing he could see what units you made , he knew how many gases you had and let's be serious blame the APM ? in 3'rd game one of the zergs had 1 base made only lings , didn't micro at all just sat with them and had 150+ apm ... i know to bad apm doesn't mean that much in sc2 when you just sit with your army and spam buttons ... but hey you can call slow ppl hackers. Before qq here about the rushes he does watch the replay of what he sees and stop spaming those buttons and THINK ( how much did day[9] say you need apm to do everything in sc2 ? or he is one that has no ideea about the game - 60-70 apm ). So until i see AT least him intercepting a drop or something .. GET serious i did more "hacking" then him. So don't blame the apm , there were slow players even in sc1 that did great things , it's not the fastest that wins most of the time. GOGO 150 apm 1 base and can't even move your zerlings right .... how would you consider that ? Listen, when you got to deal with musltiple drops on multiple fronts in BW, dont worry that with your 60apm, you`re gonna get crushed very harsly. The more actions you can do per minute, the more you can do, its fucking obvious. When Day9 says to not focus on apm, its only for the beginners not to start spamming just to get their numbers up. Apm does reflects your ability to stay on the edge and to do multiple things at the same time, it also shows how well themechanics have been integrated into your muscle memory. Its not a race to apm but if you top the NA ladder and you play at 60apm, there`s a fucking problem. | ||
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Skyze
Canada2324 Posts
On March 12 2011 14:39 Validity wrote: Socery (lasthitmagic) was confirmed to have maphacked in dota. Just putting that out there. oh wow I didnt know he was lasthitmagic.. thats unreal lol. Just so everyone is clear.. IGware (the account owner) doesnt hack, its Sorcery playing on IGware's account with the hacks so his account wont get banned.. As far as I can tell (and this is 100% my guess, not fact), this IGware account is never meant to be a main account, its a smurf account that they are testing the hacks on. And thats how it climbed to top 5 worldwide so fast/top of 2v2 AT also. | ||
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GreEny K
Germany7312 Posts
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Rotodyne
United States2263 Posts
On March 12 2011 14:50 GreEny K wrote: Wow kid really? I saw you post in the thread that was mentioning him and laddering to the top, you just accused him of hacking the whole time and it certainly seems like you have a personal grudge against him... I really don't understand why you even took the time to make this thread. because if he is hacking we should know about it? | ||
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ProTech
United States488 Posts
On March 12 2011 14:50 GreEny K wrote: Wow kid really? I saw you post in the thread that was mentioning him and laddering to the top, you just accused him of hacking the whole time and it certainly seems like you have a personal grudge against him... I really don't understand why you even took the time to make this thread. Read the post carefully, and you will think the same as most of these posters. | ||
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dizzy101
Netherlands2066 Posts
On March 12 2011 14:55 ProTech wrote:Read the post carefully, and you will think the same as most of these posters. It also helps that Ret, Huk and Drewbie are pretty much agreeing with the suspicions. Hope Blizzard fixes these possibles cheats ASAP. | ||
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