EPT
Good work Kelly hope to see you back when the "commentator beta" is over. If not, best of luck in your endeavors
KellyMILKIES to return to Singapore - Page 9
| Forum Index > SC2 General |
|
gogogadgetflow
United States2583 Posts
Good work Kelly hope to see you back when the "commentator beta" is over. If not, best of luck in your endeavors | ||
|
Shiragaku
Hong Kong4308 Posts
On March 10 2011 05:21 Termit wrote: Dude, are you dumb? Why do you think every sports caster has the same accent, because they come from the same pond? No because they learn how to get rid of there horrible accent. Just because you're over 15 years old and doesn't have english as your native language it isn't impossible to remove your accent. Haha... Yeah...despite having a attitude that makes me want to punch you in the face, you are right. There are people who teach others to learn how to get rid of their accent for certain professions that require you to speak to a large audience such as news reporters. | ||
|
syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
2011.01.11 Note that Gretech will not compensate for any additional cost(flight, lodging) apart from the salary. However, they clearly ran out of time and perhaps modified the plan accordingly 2011.02.18 However, due to many constraints that we were faced with including but not limited to time, geographical location, schedule conflicts and personal issues of other applicants, we could not help but choose an applicant who satisfied all the conditions and also had the talent for casting. This announcement does not mean that the search for the best commentators/casters for GSL Code A is over. Regardless, given the overall reaction, it appears unlikely she'll be returning, no matter what gomtv thought of her performance. | ||
|
Arcticc
United States203 Posts
Just because you didn't mind her accent, it doesn't mean that everyone that buys the product shares your opinion. | ||
|
Trentelshark
Canada385 Posts
On March 10 2011 05:14 Termit wrote: Really, she isnt that good of a caster. Some people are just not ment to be casters and Kellys high pitched voice is not a good caster voice. But if she still wanna be a professional caster she should: 1. Take voice lessons. 2. Get a neutral accent. 3. Learn how to pronounce units correctly, "the race cars"... cmon. It's also nice in a way that people give her some shit because to many females has it to easy in esports just because they are girls. "Get a neutral accent"....are you serious? I hear they have a sale on those this week on E-Bay, she should pick on up while the getting is good! "Hi, I'd like to purchase the neutral accent plug-in module for my Starcraft casting please". Good god. My grandparents are Dutch and moved here in their mid 30s. Even at the age of 90ish, speaking English every day as they learned it, they still had a Dutch accent and not a light one either. It's not a simple case of just turning it "on/off". Same as when I speak French or German (being my 2nd and 3rd language respectively) I can't just "turn on" a perfect French/German accent. I ensure my pronunciation is as good as I can make it, likely butcher it from time to time, but that's the way it is. Yes people are entitled to their opinions, yes there were times I had to piece together what she said (though very very infrequently 99% of the time I had no issues) but to pretend you can just "turn off" your accent when English isn't your first language is plain ignorant. To the OP, GOM has admitted they're rotating casters in/out trying to find chemistry/a good mix so this may be blowing thing sout of proportion, but tbh, if I were foreign and had any form of accent, I'd be hesitant to apply for the job after the beating Kelly was given everywhere. | ||
|
smileyyy
Germany1816 Posts
On March 10 2011 05:10 EnderCraft wrote: Because his opinion is not based on any shred of merit... Your not giving her a chance if you just outright mute the stream. How can you even begin to make assumptions about Kelly if you haven't even listened to her in the first place... And she did improve A LOT over the course that she did cast. How can we even begin to say that shes not doing a good job if we don't even take the time to listen to anything shes saying... I dont think she that bad but not really good either. There are definitely better caster out there who would do a better job. The point is I tried to listen to her but each day it made my ears hurt. I simply hate to listen to her voice. I might sound like an asshole I dont care it is the simple truth for me. I even tried to find the koreans vods for some of the Code A. She basically made the product for which I paid unwatchable for me. I dont think I will rewatch many of the Vods. I as a viewer am glad that she is gone and not surprised at all. I am 99,99% sure that we wont see her any time soon again. Thats enough time for to reconsider what she wants to do in her future. tbh I wouldnt recommend commentating. If she was a guy I cant phantom how much shit she wouldve gotten. | ||
JWD
United States12607 Posts
On March 10 2011 05:18 Chill wrote: Do you think they told her straight up "We will try you for one month and then get someone else to replace you and then maybe bring you back?" Maybe they did, but I never heard anything about this trial stuff until she was unpopular. It sounds like she fired and they just called it "her trial being up" but I'm obviously ignorant of the entire situation. Yeah that could be true; Edit: here is the post from John explaining that GOM is rotating casters. It's from just yesterday! The timing sure does make your story look good Chill. thanks for the link, eviltomahawk | ||
|
FrodaN
754 Posts
| ||
|
Shiragaku
Hong Kong4308 Posts
| ||
|
Doodsmack
United States7224 Posts
| ||
|
Reason.SC2
Canada1047 Posts
I'm sorry that it didn't work out... its not Kelly's fault honestly; GOM is at fault imo for putting someone in the spotlight that clearly lacks the necessary skills to get the job done. I'm not blaming Kelly for not having perfect English or having a high-masters level understanding of the game which she is able to clearly articulate: that's just not her. I hope GOM learns from this and is more careful with their caster selection in the future. On a side note, many members of the SC2 community were very very harsh to Kelly, and while I generally agree that she was an inappropriate chioce for caster, there are other ways to communicate this. A lot of hurtful and unnecessarily harsh things were said and I feel kind of ashamed of the SC2 community for handling the situation that way. I hope she didn't let those mean-spirited things get to her. At the end of the day even though Kelly may not be the best choice for caster for GSL, she's a pretty darn good SC2 player and seems like an all-around great person. That's what counts Kelly, not the flames and junk. GG GL HF! | ||
Chill
Calgary26003 Posts
1. GOM selected DoA and Moletrap to be casters. 2. They couldn't make it immediately because of real life; Kelly could. 3. They hired Kelly immediately, made up this story about trials. 4. Moletrap scheduled to come, they said trial over. Maybe not true, but at least I can justify the logic in my head as opposed to the current things GOM are saying. | ||
|
FabledIntegral
United States9232 Posts
| ||
|
Pudge_172
United States1378 Posts
If she doesn't come back, maybe she can cast the FXO Malaysian stuff and I will get to watch her cast. Doesn't really matter that much to me as I watch the games a lot more than I listen to the casters. | ||
|
NikonTC
United Kingdom418 Posts
That being said, I just can't be completely unhappy at this development. I cannot help what I like and don't like. and I just did not like her as a caster. It made me not watch Code A (unless a foreigner was playing) because there was just nothing in it for me. I'm assuming quite a few other people were the same, as I can only imagine gomTV base their decisions off stream viewer numbers and not random internet trolls. | ||
|
Reason.SC2
Canada1047 Posts
On March 10 2011 05:25 Doodsmack wrote: Do the people criticizing Kelly's game knowledge not realize how often Tasteless says something thats just plain wrong? People have criticized tasteless for this too. The difference is that he is too damn funny and likable to attract the amount of flames that Kelly did. Also tasteless is a legit masters player on the KR server. While he sometimes has a blond moment on camera I don't think his level of game knowledge and Kelly's is comparable. | ||
|
rabidch
United States20289 Posts
Just kidding, even though I didn't like her I think she deserves a longer period than 1 season (GSL goes by quick doesn't it) | ||
|
Cathasaigh
United States285 Posts
On March 10 2011 05:25 Trentelshark wrote: "Get a neutral accent"....are you serious? I hear they have a sale on those this week on E-Bay, she should pick on up while the getting is good! "Hi, I'd like to purchase the neutral accent plug-in module for my Starcraft casting please". Good god. My grandparents are Dutch and moved here in their mid 30s. Even at the age of 90ish, speaking English every day as they learned it, they still had a Dutch accent and not a light one either. It's not a simple case of just turning it "on/off". Same as when I speak French or German (being my 2nd and 3rd language respectively) I can't just "turn on" a perfect French/German accent. I ensure my pronunciation is as good as I can make it, likely butcher it from time to time, but that's the way it is. Yes people are entitled to their opinions, yes there were times I had to piece together what she said (though very very infrequently 99% of the time I had no issues) but to pretend you can just "turn off" your accent when English isn't your first language is plain ignorant. To the OP, GOM has admitted they're rotating casters in/out trying to find chemistry/a good mix so this may be blowing thing sout of proportion, but tbh, if I were foreign and had any form of accent, I'd be hesitant to apply for the job after the beating Kelly was given everywhere. You can get accent coaching to help get rid of or minimize an accent or to develop an accent which is probably what he is talking about. | ||
|
JWD
United States12607 Posts
On March 10 2011 05:26 Chill wrote: Okay, so my new theory is: 1. GOM selected DoA and Moletrap to be casters. 2. They couldn't make it immediately because of real life; Kelly could. 3. They hired Kelly immediately, made up this story about trials. 4. Moletrap scheduled to come, they said trial over. Maybe not true, but at least I can justify the logic in my head as opposed to the current things GOM are saying. Edit: this theory busted by February 24 interview that's linked in the OP. | ||
|
ParasitJonte
Sweden1768 Posts
On March 10 2011 05:21 Termit wrote: Dude, are you dumb? Why do you think every sports caster has the same accent, because they come from the same pond? No because they learn how to get rid of there horrible accent. Just because you're over 15 years old and doesn't have english as your native language it isn't impossible to remove your accent. Haha... Hm, I'm posting this because this post makes me believe some education may be needed: http://www.ted.com/talks/patricia_kuhl_the_linguistic_genius_of_babies.html Basically, children are very capable of changing pronounciation and learning a new language based on their surroundings. This ability declines with age. It may not be impossible but it may actually be more than you can reasonably ask for. That is not a defence of any specific person. And it's not saying that you should accept how someone speaks english just because they can't be asked to change their accent. But it does mean that you can't continue making posts like that. | ||
| ||
