On March 03 2011 10:07 Aurdon wrote: The requirements for application seem excessive. Are there so many problems with organizing tournaments like MLG, DreamHack, IEM, ESL that these kind of precautions have to be taken? I don't understand why these requirements are in place. Can someone explain it to me?
This seems more like an application for a reality show than a competitive tournament.
The only requirements for those tournaments are to show up and play games. Having these rules and making sure people follow them shows a level of professionalism by the person/team who have to follow the rules. If you can't get your shit together and make a video and submit a small application, then I have doubts that as a team or person you will make all of your matches on time or other obligations.
On the $250 subject, if you're attempting to play sc2 professionaly/semi-professionaly and you or your team don't have $250 to deposit, I'd say you have bigger issues than getting into the NASL.
Technically, if a team has 5 players in the tournament it's a total of 1250, not 250.
On March 03 2011 10:07 Aurdon wrote: The requirements for application seem excessive. Are there so many problems with organizing tournaments like MLG, DreamHack, IEM, ESL that these kind of precautions have to be taken? I don't understand why these requirements are in place. Can someone explain it to me?
This seems more like an application for a reality show than a competitive tournament.
This is more than a single tournament where if a single player doesnt show up there is just a minor bracket revision. This is a league with a goal of professionalism and expanding esports- as such, the players need to be able to dedicate via contract to the NASL.
As for the video, I assume it does two things: 1) helps with the application, although Im sure a random diamond with a great video wont get in... and 2) is a part of the show.
First, the $400,000 jumped out of nowhere and I thought it would be the first place price for a single season. Then I realized, "no", it's a prize pool for a single season. Then there comes, "no", it's not, it's $100,000 per season. Now, I'm not sure if this $100,000 would include studio rental, professional cameras, computers, and all the little fees.
And the biggest question, I'm not sure if it's been asked before, is "what are the prizes?" for 1st, 2nd, 3rd,.......There is nothing more important than this information. However, I've never seen anyone ask this before.
As far as I know, a video cam for a professional tournament or TV costs anywhere between $10,000 and $100,000 alone. And I've seen at least 3 cameras in the GOMTV studio including the one pointing at Tastosis.
I don't think anyone would throw out $400,000 without considering all the little thing like camera, PC's, broadcast table, and all the lighting and decorations,......
On March 03 2011 10:07 Aurdon wrote: The requirements for application seem excessive. Are there so many problems with organizing tournaments like MLG, DreamHack, IEM, ESL that these kind of precautions have to be taken? I don't understand why these requirements are in place. Can someone explain it to me?
This seems more like an application for a reality show than a competitive tournament.
The only requirements for those tournaments are to show up and play games. Having these rules and making sure people follow them shows a level of professionalism by the person/team who have to follow the rules. If you can't get your shit together and make a video and submit a small application, then I have doubts that as a team or person you will make all of your matches on time or other obligations.
On the $250 subject, if you're attempting to play sc2 professionaly/semi-professionaly and you or your team don't have $250 to deposit, I'd say you have bigger issues than getting into the NASL.
Technically, if a team has 5 players in the tournament it's a total of 1250, not 250.
Hence the reason I also included "you or your team", despite having to be on a team.
On March 03 2011 10:13 nart wrote: This is my impression of this tournament so far:
First, the $400,000 jumped out of nowhere and I thought it would be the first place price for a single season. Then I realized, "no", it's a prize pool for a single season. Then there comes, "no", it's not, it's $100,000 per season. Now, I'm not sure if this $100,000 would include studio rental, professional cameras, computers, and all the little fees.
And the biggest question, I'm not sure if it's been asked before, is "what are the prizes?" for 1st, 2nd, 3rd,.......There is nothing more important than this information. However, I've never seen anyone ask this before.
I'm sure Xeris has already emailed the team managers with the info on the prize pool allocations. It wouldn't make sense for teams to commit to a league without all the details and info regarding prize pool distributions.
That means if no one else applies but me I could get 3rd place and however many thousand dollars while losing every match.
Interesting.
On a serious note, I'm guessing teams are just trying to figure out which of their players can make it and want to compete. NASL seems like its going to be legit, but it all comes down to the skill level of the players to determine if I'll purchase the "HD Ticket" + Show Spoiler +
And just to vent my personal frustration I HATE the fact that most big leagues (MLG, NASL, GSL) require you to pay money to watch their games. HD is a REQUIREMENT in our world now, the fact that they are nickel-and-dimeing loyal followers is just ridiculous. Look at the major sports who all have FREE HD broadcasts. It doesn't matter that they have more money, anyone can broadcast a show in HD at little cost on the internet.
Back on topic: I see that the public announcement of players begins near the end of March. Will there be any list of applications/videos or anything like that made public before hand? Like a few people have stated, it would be fun to see.
That means if no one else applies but me I could get 3rd place and however many thousand dollars while losing every match.
Interesting.
On a serious note, I'm guessing teams are just trying to figure out which of their players can make it and want to compete. NASL seems like its going to be legit, but it all comes down to the skill level of the players to determine if I'll purchase the "HD Ticket" + Show Spoiler +
And just to vent my personal frustration I HATE the fact that most big leagues (MLG, NASL, GSL) require you to pay money to watch their games. HD is a REQUIREMENT in our world now, the fact that they are nickel-and-dimeing loyal followers is just ridiculous. Look at the major sports who all have FREE HD broadcasts. It doesn't matter that they have more money, anyone can broadcast a show in HD at little cost on the internet.
actually you have to buy some sort of cable to watch most sports in HD, so that HD isn't really for free. To watch sports on your computer, MLB.TV charges you a pretty hefty price and that isn't in HD. it's not free to watch sports. Also, E-sports really needs people to dump money into it to show that it is growing and that sponsors will make money back from investing in the game. That's how Capitalism works >.>
Sorry if that was off topic. Reading a post where someone says "HD is a requirement in our world" is a little silly...Will you die if you don't get HD? >.>
That means if no one else applies but me I could get 3rd place and however many thousand dollars while losing every match.
Interesting.
On a serious note, I'm guessing teams are just trying to figure out which of their players can make it and want to compete. NASL seems like its going to be legit, but it all comes down to the skill level of the players to determine if I'll purchase the "HD Ticket" + Show Spoiler +
And just to vent my personal frustration I HATE the fact that most big leagues (MLG, NASL, GSL) require you to pay money to watch their games. HD is a REQUIREMENT in our world now, the fact that they are nickel-and-dimeing loyal followers is just ridiculous. Look at the major sports who all have FREE HD broadcasts. It doesn't matter that they have more money, anyone can broadcast a show in HD at little cost on the internet.
since when is TV free? 25$ for 135 hours of content, and that's not even including the live tournament? please, totally worth it.
That means if no one else applies but me I could get 3rd place and however many thousand dollars while losing every match.
Interesting.
On a serious note, I'm guessing teams are just trying to figure out which of their players can make it and want to compete. NASL seems like its going to be legit, but it all comes down to the skill level of the players to determine if I'll purchase the "HD Ticket" + Show Spoiler +
And just to vent my personal frustration I HATE the fact that most big leagues (MLG, NASL, GSL) require you to pay money to watch their games. HD is a REQUIREMENT in our world now, the fact that they are nickel-and-dimeing loyal followers is just ridiculous. Look at the major sports who all have FREE HD broadcasts. It doesn't matter that they have more money, anyone can broadcast a show in HD at little cost on the internet.
This just mean most of the big teams have been invited already.
Question: Hi, sir. Right now only one player in my team wants to apply NASL, do I have to get one more player to submit the application even he may not be accepted? Thanks.
A team is defined by us as two (2) or more players submitting a team application and providing a collective deposit, or as an entity that supports any number of players via sponsorships.
On March 03 2011 10:27 TheNessman wrote: lol a video.... why? what if someone doesn't have a camera? this is edit: i'm not gonna call you names, sorry :/
Who in the 21st century doesn't have access to a video camera O_O
That means if no one else applies but me I could get 3rd place and however many thousand dollars while losing every match.
Interesting.
On a serious note, I'm guessing teams are just trying to figure out which of their players can make it and want to compete. NASL seems like its going to be legit, but it all comes down to the skill level of the players to determine if I'll purchase the "HD Ticket" + Show Spoiler +
And just to vent my personal frustration I HATE the fact that most big leagues (MLG, NASL, GSL) require you to pay money to watch their games. HD is a REQUIREMENT in our world now, the fact that they are nickel-and-dimeing loyal followers is just ridiculous. Look at the major sports who all have FREE HD broadcasts. It doesn't matter that they have more money, anyone can broadcast a show in HD at little cost on the internet.
This just mean most of the big teams have been invited already.
I've said it before... I'll personally sponor any ammount of players that want to form a team and the only thing stopping them is a $250.00 refundable fee. All you have to do is follow the rules so I dont lose money.
On March 03 2011 10:10 Frack wrote: Im not saying they wont get their money back, but $250 maybe nothing to some but to professional sc2 players who make their living off of coaching, have rent and bills to pay its an expense that can be hard to come by.
$250 refundable fee to get to play in a $100,000 tournament. C'mon. That's amazingly lenient compared to other professional sports (which is what the NASL is aspiring to be).
That said, the Youtube "rivals" question is a hilarious set up to provide the backstories NASL people have been going on about. :D
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