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HerculesSAS
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7 Posts
February 23 2011 22:14 GMT
#1
I know I can have an SCV follow a single thor, but is there a way to have a group of SCVs follow a group of thors?

Additionally, how do I have a medivac follow a group of units? Possible? I always pick up a unit instead of having it follow so I really don't know.

Adding in any other races with normal 'follow' stuff would be helpful, I play Terran mostly so that's kind of my key. Ravens following other air, or whatever... any tips I can get would be great.

Thanks!
Piski
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Finland3461 Posts
February 23 2011 22:15 GMT
#2
Select units - Click on the unit you want them to follow ^^
Geovu
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Estonia1344 Posts
February 23 2011 22:15 GMT
#3
Right click on the thor.

I'm pretty sure there is a 'follow' command in the case of the medivacs.
MisterD
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Germany1338 Posts
February 23 2011 22:15 GMT
#4
use the "move" button.
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Gemini_19
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1222 Posts
February 23 2011 22:16 GMT
#5
1. Select unit you want to have follow
2. Right click on unit you want it to follow
3. ???
4. Profit!


No, there is no way to have a unit follow a "group" of units or have a medivac follow a unit without it picking it up once it reaches it.
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FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
February 23 2011 22:17 GMT
#6
On February 24 2011 07:16 Gemini_19 wrote:
1. Select unit you want to have follow
2. Right click on unit you want it to follow
3. ???
4. Profit!


No, there is no way to have a unit follow a "group" of units or have a medivac follow a unit without it picking it up once it reaches it.


The A-move "heal" doesn't work?
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-23 22:28:26
February 23 2011 22:19 GMT
#7
I'm not 100% positive on this and can't test it out at the moment (not enough battery to run SC2 for any length of time right now), but I think if you shift click move commands on each of the thors you can have the SCVs follow them until they die, then follow the next one. This may or may not work for rally points.

Edit: WRONG, just tested it (almost KOing my battery in the process) and this doesn't work with rally points OR with right clicking OR with the move command. It only follows the last one in the queue.
Gemini_19
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1222 Posts
February 23 2011 22:19 GMT
#8
On February 24 2011 07:17 FabledIntegral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2011 07:16 Gemini_19 wrote:
1. Select unit you want to have follow
2. Right click on unit you want it to follow
3. ???
4. Profit!


No, there is no way to have a unit follow a "group" of units or have a medivac follow a unit without it picking it up once it reaches it.


The A-move "heal" doesn't work?


Does it? I don't know. Pretty sure a medivac stops when it heals things.
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XiGua
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden3085 Posts
February 23 2011 22:20 GMT
#9
Press M and then left-click on the unit you want your units to follow. Done, also with Medivac, instead of M you can also use A since they can't atk
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HerculesSAS
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7 Posts
February 23 2011 22:20 GMT
#10
Well that's not the issue, I meant more of a group following a group

So if I have 3 thors, and 1 dies, I want the SCVs to have been following "all" the thors, not just 1

Similarly the same for medivacs and such. I don't recall if there's a "follow" command.
FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-23 22:22:41
February 23 2011 22:21 GMT
#11
select the SCVs/medivac, press "M" (standard keyboard layout) left click on the unit you want to follow, if the followed unit dies you have to select another one, you cannot follow a group

in the case of medivacs i would simply group the together with your bio-force to be honest :o
Kevmeister @ Dota2
aidnai
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1159 Posts
February 23 2011 22:22 GMT
#12
^^ If you shift queue it, the SCVs will approach the first thor, then the second, and so on without the thors dying.

You can have medivacs follow units that they can't pick up, i.e. air units.

Use the simple questions/answers thread in the future.
XiGua
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden3085 Posts
February 23 2011 22:22 GMT
#13
On February 24 2011 07:20 HerculesSAS wrote:
Well that's not the issue, I meant more of a group following a group

So if I have 3 thors, and 1 dies, I want the SCVs to have been following "all" the thors, not just 1

Similarly the same for medivacs and such. I don't recall if there's a "follow" command.


Maybe it works by shift-clicking? Don't really know, but if that doesn't work then you can't do it.
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orotoss
Profile Joined September 2010
United States298 Posts
February 23 2011 22:22 GMT
#14
You can't follow an entire group. If I have a bunch of scvs following a single thor out of a group of 5 thors. If that thor happens to die first and the other 4 keep moving towards the enemy base, the scvs will just chill in the middle where the thor died. I guess you just have to pay close attention when telling units to follow one another.

The same thing applies for rally points. If I rally muta eggs on a muta in my attack group, and that muta dies, those mutas will stop in place as soon as it dies.
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domtrooper
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada15 Posts
February 23 2011 22:22 GMT
#15
Select SCVs , shift right click all the thors
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
February 23 2011 22:23 GMT
#16
Just group them together to be honest. You can't have them follow several units.
If there's a follow-command. Try Shift + Follow command maybe?
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Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25974 Posts
February 23 2011 22:24 GMT
#17
I'm just throwing out ideas since I'm at work: What if you queue patrol movement between the thors?
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Shiladie
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1631 Posts
February 23 2011 22:24 GMT
#18
On February 24 2011 07:20 HerculesSAS wrote:
Well that's not the issue, I meant more of a group following a group

So if I have 3 thors, and 1 dies, I want the SCVs to have been following "all" the thors, not just 1

Similarly the same for medivacs and such. I don't recall if there's a "follow" command.


You cannot have them follow the group, but you can for example have auto-repair on, so if one thor dies, they will lose their current order and go to the nearest damaged thor if it is in range and go repair it.
for medivacs just use the A or M commands instead of right clicking, and they will then follow the unit you click, though again that is following that one unit, if that unit dies, and the group moves away, the medivac will sit there doing nothing.

Also following units will be at a small delay, lagging behind the army, what you want to do instead is have the units on a separate hotkey and move them yourself when you need to.
FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
February 23 2011 22:25 GMT
#19
On February 24 2011 07:22 XiGua wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2011 07:20 HerculesSAS wrote:
Well that's not the issue, I meant more of a group following a group

So if I have 3 thors, and 1 dies, I want the SCVs to have been following "all" the thors, not just 1

Similarly the same for medivacs and such. I don't recall if there's a "follow" command.


Maybe it works by shift-clicking? Don't really know, but if that doesn't work then you can't do it.


they'd just go from one unit to the next and follow the last one selected i think
Kevmeister @ Dota2
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
February 23 2011 22:26 GMT
#20
On February 24 2011 07:19 Gemini_19 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2011 07:17 FabledIntegral wrote:
On February 24 2011 07:16 Gemini_19 wrote:
1. Select unit you want to have follow
2. Right click on unit you want it to follow
3. ???
4. Profit!


No, there is no way to have a unit follow a "group" of units or have a medivac follow a unit without it picking it up once it reaches it.


The A-move "heal" doesn't work?


Does it? I don't know. Pretty sure a medivac stops when it heals things.


Pretty sure they do, because I A-moved my teammates broodlords with medivacs in a recent game and they did exactly that!
Shiladie
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1631 Posts
February 23 2011 22:26 GMT
#21
On February 24 2011 07:24 Chill wrote:
I'm just throwing out ideas since I'm at work: What if you queue patrol movement between the thors?


I don't think queuing patrols work at all, though I may be wrong. I'd think it would go "ok, when I'm done this endless back and forth path, I will go on to that other endless back and forth path"
but if as you said, you patrol them to the unit, does the first patrol command end entirely, or does it instead get relegated to patrol to where the unit was last alive?

I'd definitely be interested in testing this now...
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25974 Posts
February 23 2011 22:28 GMT
#22
On February 24 2011 07:26 Shiladie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2011 07:24 Chill wrote:
I'm just throwing out ideas since I'm at work: What if you queue patrol movement between the thors?


I don't think queuing patrols work at all, though I may be wrong. I'd think it would go "ok, when I'm done this endless back and forth path, I will go on to that other endless back and forth path"
but if as you said, you patrol them to the unit, does the first patrol command end entirely, or does it instead get relegated to patrol to where the unit was last alive?

I'd definitely be interested in testing this now...

In Brood War it works as you mentioned, but I seem to specifically remember it was changed in Starcraft II... Could be wrong
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FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
February 23 2011 22:30 GMT
#23
On February 24 2011 07:28 Chill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2011 07:26 Shiladie wrote:
On February 24 2011 07:24 Chill wrote:
I'm just throwing out ideas since I'm at work: What if you queue patrol movement between the thors?


I don't think queuing patrols work at all, though I may be wrong. I'd think it would go "ok, when I'm done this endless back and forth path, I will go on to that other endless back and forth path"
but if as you said, you patrol them to the unit, does the first patrol command end entirely, or does it instead get relegated to patrol to where the unit was last alive?

I'd definitely be interested in testing this now...

In Brood War it works as you mentioned, but I seem to specifically remember it was changed in Starcraft II... Could be wrong


i just gave it a quick test, the unit goes through all the queued commands and then just follows the last target in the queue
Kevmeister @ Dota2
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-23 22:32:40
February 23 2011 22:32 GMT
#24
On February 24 2011 07:26 Shiladie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2011 07:24 Chill wrote:
I'm just throwing out ideas since I'm at work: What if you queue patrol movement between the thors?


I don't think queuing patrols work at all, though I may be wrong. I'd think it would go "ok, when I'm done this endless back and forth path, I will go on to that other endless back and forth path"
but if as you said, you patrol them to the unit, does the first patrol command end entirely, or does it instead get relegated to patrol to where the unit was last alive?

I'd definitely be interested in testing this now...


Not sure if this was my touchpad accuracy but from what I just tried it doesn't seem possible to use the patrol command and then click on units. Clicks just went right through them to the ground beneath. Though the loading screen helpfully told me that SHIFT+COMMAND+F makes a unit follow another unit (that may be why you can't shift-queue it up!).
Moody
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States750 Posts
February 23 2011 22:32 GMT
#25
On February 24 2011 07:14 HerculesSAS wrote:
is there a way to have a group of SCVs follow a group of thors?

Thanks!


No.
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Mastermind
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada7096 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-23 22:34:12
February 23 2011 22:33 GMT
#26
right click the first thor, hold shift, right click the next thor, repeat for all thors. will that work?
MonsieurGrimm
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada2441 Posts
February 23 2011 22:36 GMT
#27
if you want to make the medivac follow another unit without picking it up or using the scan-move command, why not just hit M and click the unit?
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TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-23 22:39:01
February 23 2011 22:37 GMT
#28
On February 24 2011 07:33 Mastermind wrote:
right click the first thor, hold shift, right click the next thor, repeat for all thors. will that work?


Unless following works differently for SCVs following thors than it does for SCVs following other SCVs (just tested it in quick start custom game vs. AI) it doesn't, unfortunately. It will just move to the first thor, then the second, then the third, and then follow the last one you shift clicked. I had the same misconception though; was this possible in BW or something? Why is this belief so widespread?
niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5281 Posts
February 23 2011 22:37 GMT
#29
80% of the replies came from people who can't read.

He wants to follow a GROUP of units, not a single unit.
(hint for the slow people: if you follow a single unit that moves in a group, if he dies, the follower will have nothing to follow.)
Zarahtra
Profile Joined May 2010
Iceland4053 Posts
February 23 2011 22:41 GMT
#30
On February 24 2011 07:30 FliedLice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2011 07:28 Chill wrote:
On February 24 2011 07:26 Shiladie wrote:
On February 24 2011 07:24 Chill wrote:
I'm just throwing out ideas since I'm at work: What if you queue patrol movement between the thors?


I don't think queuing patrols work at all, though I may be wrong. I'd think it would go "ok, when I'm done this endless back and forth path, I will go on to that other endless back and forth path"
but if as you said, you patrol them to the unit, does the first patrol command end entirely, or does it instead get relegated to patrol to where the unit was last alive?

I'd definitely be interested in testing this now...

In Brood War it works as you mentioned, but I seem to specifically remember it was changed in Starcraft II... Could be wrong


i just gave it a quick test, the unit goes through all the queued commands and then just follows the last target in the queue

Well more importantly, you can't select a unit with the patrol command. And yer shift queue doesn't work(it just repairs first unit, 2nd, 3rd etc until at last unit it will additionally follow it). So nopes doesn't seem like you can follow a group(had hopes up for patrol ).
FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
February 23 2011 22:51 GMT
#31
On February 24 2011 07:37 niteReloaded wrote:
80% of the replies came from people who can't read.

He wants to follow a GROUP of units, not a single unit.
(hint for the slow people: if you follow a single unit that moves in a group, if he dies, the follower will have nothing to follow.)


we're just trying to give alternatives since his actual idea doesn't work...


On February 24 2011 07:41 Zarahtra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2011 07:30 FliedLice wrote:
On February 24 2011 07:28 Chill wrote:
On February 24 2011 07:26 Shiladie wrote:
On February 24 2011 07:24 Chill wrote:
I'm just throwing out ideas since I'm at work: What if you queue patrol movement between the thors?


I don't think queuing patrols work at all, though I may be wrong. I'd think it would go "ok, when I'm done this endless back and forth path, I will go on to that other endless back and forth path"
but if as you said, you patrol them to the unit, does the first patrol command end entirely, or does it instead get relegated to patrol to where the unit was last alive?

I'd definitely be interested in testing this now...

In Brood War it works as you mentioned, but I seem to specifically remember it was changed in Starcraft II... Could be wrong


i just gave it a quick test, the unit goes through all the queued commands and then just follows the last target in the queue

Well more importantly, you can't select a unit with the patrol command. And yer shift queue doesn't work(it just repairs first unit, 2nd, 3rd etc until at last unit it will additionally follow it). So nopes doesn't seem like you can follow a group(had hopes up for patrol ).


yup, tested patrol also doesnt work either :[
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