• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 06:54
CEST 12:54
KST 19:54
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call8[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End9Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2915Serral wins Maestros of the Game 244ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3
Community News
New 3v3 BGH Ladder (and more) on ShieldBattery!33Weekly Cups (August 17-23): Zerg dominate the week6Weekly Cups (August 10-16): SHIN doubles2GSTL Returns in 2026!45Weekly Cups (Aug 3-9): Protoss get shut out7
StarCraft 2
General
SC4ALL II: SC2 Player Announcement 6/8 - Maru How would you feel about frequent/monthly balance patches for SC2? Weekly Cups (August 17-23): Zerg dominate the week Daily SC2 Player Grid - feedback wanted Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16)
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament 2026 GSTL Announcement IntoTheTV X SOOP SC2 League : Weekly & Monthly PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August) WORTEX 2026 - Hungarian SC2 Finals Budapest
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
Mutation # 540 Dodge This The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 539 Thunder Dome Mutation # 538 Media Blackout
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion ASL22 General Discussion [Personal Project Share] Terran Defense v0.60 BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ New 3v3 BGH Ladder (and more) on ShieldBattery!
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL22] Ro24 Group F BSL LAN Party - Kraków 29-30 August - OPEN SIGNUPS Escore Tournament - Season 3
Strategy
Replay Review Process - What do you do? Game Theory for Starcraft Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread Anyone here play Quakeworld back in the day? EVE Corporation
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank TL Mafia Community Thread NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread The Letting Off Steam Thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The Creator Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023 NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
Violent Games and Crime Rate…
TrAiDoS
LOCKPICKING NOOB
LUCKY_NOOB
Cathedral Of CS And NY pizza a…
FuDDx
Please support my new stand…
Peanutsc
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 6854 users

About GSL Mar. Code A Casters - Page 3

Forum Index > SC2 General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 13 14 15 Next All
Lokian
Profile Joined March 2010
United States699 Posts
February 17 2011 12:29 GMT
#41
I can understand Australian accent just fine, but this is a little different.
Watch my gaming channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/BedinSpace
Niick
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia426 Posts
February 17 2011 12:29 GMT
#42
On February 17 2011 21:21 minimat wrote:
Pretty sure more then just Australians can understand her. Also I was comparing the fact that Americans are commentating everywhere and that we put up with it. One change in that and bam everyone outside of SEA complains.


Agree 100%, it's this OMG IT NEEDS TO BE AMERICAN attitude that gets you shafted with shit like Skins, Office, Reddwarf and the IT crowd remakes.
You'll have to speak up, I'm wearing a towel.
Pwnographics
Profile Joined January 2011
New Zealand1097 Posts
February 17 2011 12:30 GMT
#43
My opinion is no on KellyMilkies.
Vequeth
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United Kingdom1116 Posts
February 17 2011 12:31 GMT
#44
I cant imagine GomTV are happy about this being announced by someone on twitter before they can do it properly.
Aspiring British Caster / Masters Protoss
norterrible
Profile Joined October 2009
United States618 Posts
February 17 2011 12:36 GMT
#45
On February 17 2011 19:50 Sindsygafnatur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2011 19:47 Umbrella wrote:
I love how the ZvT section (in the map analysis) is all about how much harder the Terran will have it now.


One word can summarize the match-up between Zerg and Protoss: laser!

The biggest concern is whether or not the laser Toss can be blocked.


Hahaha.... laser toss!


We need to introduce the MirrorLisk!



haha this cracks me up.
kekeke
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
February 17 2011 12:36 GMT
#46
On February 17 2011 21:20 Bobble wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2011 21:19 Euronyme wrote:
On February 17 2011 21:10 minimat wrote:
Wow I can't believe all you ignorant fucks. We put up with American accents for EVERYTHING, even the god dam Australian Tennis Open has an American commentator. Get over the fact that you are going to maybe have to strain you're precious ears a little bit to understand what she is saying because she is a great caster and if she doesn't get this spot it will be total bullshit.

GOM if this post is about Kelly not getting the spot then that is a fucking disgrace on you're part.


So because Australia has American casters on tennis, it's a disgrace if they rethink choosing a commentator that basically none but the Australians understand?
Remember that the entire western world has this stream, and honestly I can't hear what she says. No offence, I'm sure she's a great caster, but I don't understand it, and her voice isn't smooth enough to listen to if you don't understand it.


I don't understand her either. I'm sure she'll try to work on her weaknesses though, hopefully.


I don't really see how this could work. A lot of people have been saying that she could improve over the course of a gsl season, and it's true that her lack of game knowledge could get better, but I don't think it's reasonable to say her accent will change or that she will somehow gain a smooth and pleasant caster voice during one month. Those are things that take years to change.
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
iko
Profile Joined February 2010
New Zealand137 Posts
February 17 2011 12:36 GMT
#47
On February 17 2011 21:10 minimat wrote:
Wow I can't believe all you ignorant fucks. We put up with American accents for EVERYTHING, even the god dam Australian Tennis Open has an American commentator. Get over the fact that you are going to maybe have to strain you're precious ears a little bit to understand what she is saying because she is a great caster and if she doesn't get this spot it will be total bullshit.

GOM if this post is about Kelly not getting the spot then that is a fucking disgrace on you're part.


Do not project your views upon others - I'm another oceanic person and I have trouble understanding her poor casting and I spend all day socializing with Australians.

You also have to consider the fact that straining to understand a caster is one of the biggest drawbacks ever - they are there to supplement the game and if they are detracting from the quality of the experience by hampering a majority's ability to understand what's going on, then they are NOT a good caster.

You are asking a majority audience to make-do with a substandard caster because of your own personal beef with Americans. Are you trying to murder interest in Starcraft as a video game? If the representation of a professional caster for one of the biggest events in the world is someone who infact hampers the experience, then it reflects very poorly upon GSL and Starcraft as a whole.
xBillehx
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States1289 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-17 12:43:30
February 17 2011 12:37 GMT
#48
On February 17 2011 21:27 GOM.Sam wrote:
We do want you guys to get excited for GSL March but we do not want wrongly built hype (or the opposite) for something we have not even officially announced.

With that being said I am not sure why the thread about Kelly is at the "Community News" section.

Seems like Hot_Bid is not online right now.

Try Chill, he just made a new thread there.

O:
On a side note, new GOM guy needs an icon! Seems to be a lot more of you guys that can speak English than I originally thought. Hope you all continue posting around here and dont get turned away from the overreactions to some things. It really is refreshing to have you guys around taking part of the community.

Edit: Thanks for translating an interview for us and hopefully your announcement soon cools some heads.
Taengoo ♥
Lokian
Profile Joined March 2010
United States699 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-17 12:38:55
February 17 2011 12:38 GMT
#49
Does Kelly also speak chinese? Maybe its Australian accent with Chinese accent.
Watch my gaming channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/BedinSpace
Bobble
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia1493 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-17 12:42:06
February 17 2011 12:40 GMT
#50
On February 17 2011 21:36 strongandbig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2011 21:20 Bobble wrote:
On February 17 2011 21:19 Euronyme wrote:
On February 17 2011 21:10 minimat wrote:
Wow I can't believe all you ignorant fucks. We put up with American accents for EVERYTHING, even the god dam Australian Tennis Open has an American commentator. Get over the fact that you are going to maybe have to strain you're precious ears a little bit to understand what she is saying because she is a great caster and if she doesn't get this spot it will be total bullshit.

GOM if this post is about Kelly not getting the spot then that is a fucking disgrace on you're part.


So because Australia has American casters on tennis, it's a disgrace if they rethink choosing a commentator that basically none but the Australians understand?
Remember that the entire western world has this stream, and honestly I can't hear what she says. No offence, I'm sure she's a great caster, but I don't understand it, and her voice isn't smooth enough to listen to if you don't understand it.


I don't understand her either. I'm sure she'll try to work on her weaknesses though, hopefully.


I don't really see how this could work. A lot of people have been saying that she could improve over the course of a gsl season, and it's true that her lack of game knowledge could get better, but I don't think it's reasonable to say her accent will change or that she will somehow gain a smooth and pleasant caster voice during one month. Those are things that take years to change.


You misunderstand me. What I mean by 'work on her weaknesses' does mean her knowledge, co-operation with her casting partner and controlling her speech during intense times in the game. I'm not saying for her to work on things like her accent, because that's stupid to suggest, as you said, it takes way longer than one GSL season to work on an accent.

On February 17 2011 21:29 Niick wrote:
Agree 100%, it's this OMG IT NEEDS TO BE AMERICAN attitude that gets you shafted with shit like Skins, Office, Reddwarf and the IT crowd remakes.


there's American versions of Red Dwarf and the IT Crowd?

NOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
bennyaus
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia1833 Posts
February 17 2011 12:42 GMT
#51
On February 17 2011 21:38 Lokian wrote:
Does Kelly also speak chinese? Maybe its Australian accent with Chinese accent.


It is clearly Singaporean. Very common accent around Australian universities and of course in Singapore!
I play Random - HuK, DRG + Liquid fan
minimat
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Australia344 Posts
February 17 2011 12:43 GMT
#52
On February 17 2011 21:36 iko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2011 21:10 minimat wrote:
Wow I can't believe all you ignorant fucks. We put up with American accents for EVERYTHING, even the god dam Australian Tennis Open has an American commentator. Get over the fact that you are going to maybe have to strain you're precious ears a little bit to understand what she is saying because she is a great caster and if she doesn't get this spot it will be total bullshit.

GOM if this post is about Kelly not getting the spot then that is a fucking disgrace on you're part.


Do not project your views upon others - I'm another oceanic person and I have trouble understanding her poor casting and I spend all day socializing with Australians.

You also have to consider the fact that straining to understand a caster is one of the biggest drawbacks ever - they are there to supplement the game and if they are detracting from the quality of the experience by hampering a majority's ability to understand what's going on, then they are NOT a good caster.

You are asking a majority audience to make-do with a substandard caster because of your own personal beef with Americans. Are you trying to murder interest in Starcraft as a video game? If the representation of a professional caster for one of the biggest events in the world is someone who infact hampers the experience, then it reflects very poorly upon GSL and Starcraft as a whole.


Ok first off socialising with Australians isn't going to help you understand someone from Singapoore.

Secondly, I'm not pushing and view on any one I'm simply saying that she is a great caster and that an ASIAN tournament has picked an ASIAN caster and people should not be so narrow minded as to say THIS IS RIGHT AND NOTHING ELSE IS.

Thirdly I love Tasteless and to all the people saying Kellys game knowledge is lacking... You obviously mute the stream every second time Tasteless talks because its usually something wrong, however entertaining it is.

Lastly... You are from NZL.. Do you views even count?
GOM.Sam
Profile Joined February 2011
Korea (South)210 Posts
February 17 2011 12:43 GMT
#53
On February 17 2011 21:37 xBillehx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2011 21:27 GOM.Sam wrote:
We do want you guys to get excited for GSL March but we do not want wrongly built hype (or the opposite) for something we have not even officially announced.

With that being said I am not sure why the thread about Kelly is at the "Community News" section.

Seems like Hot_Bid is not online right now.

Try Chill, he just made a new thread there.

O:
On a side note, new GOM guy needs an icon! Seems to be a lot more of you guys that can speak English than I originally thought. Hope you all continue posting around here and dont get turned away from the overreactions to some things. It really is refreshing to have you guys around taking part of the community.


I did request for an icon but didn't receive one yet.
I usually hang around on gomtv.net but I will try to visit as much as I can.
Roll Tide.
dunc
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands1105 Posts
February 17 2011 12:44 GMT
#54
On February 17 2011 21:10 minimat wrote:
Wow I can't believe all you ignorant fucks. We put up with American accents for EVERYTHING, even the god dam Australian Tennis Open has an American commentator. Get over the fact that you are going to maybe have to strain you're precious ears a little bit to understand what she is saying because she is a great caster and if she doesn't get this spot it will be total bullshit.

GOM if this post is about Kelly not getting the spot then that is a fucking disgrace on you're part.


You seem angry. Just because you're a fan of someone doesn't mean you should blindly defend them, there are good points made in this thread.

GSL is the biggest sc2 tournament for now, it's important for them not to settle with subpar casters. Quite frankly there are a lot of casters and there are many that are more qualified than Kellymilkies. AskJoshy comes to mind.
ptbl
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6074 Posts
February 17 2011 12:45 GMT
#55
On February 17 2011 21:43 minimat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2011 21:36 iko wrote:
On February 17 2011 21:10 minimat wrote:
Wow I can't believe all you ignorant fucks. We put up with American accents for EVERYTHING, even the god dam Australian Tennis Open has an American commentator. Get over the fact that you are going to maybe have to strain you're precious ears a little bit to understand what she is saying because she is a great caster and if she doesn't get this spot it will be total bullshit.

GOM if this post is about Kelly not getting the spot then that is a fucking disgrace on you're part.


Do not project your views upon others - I'm another oceanic person and I have trouble understanding her poor casting and I spend all day socializing with Australians.

You also have to consider the fact that straining to understand a caster is one of the biggest drawbacks ever - they are there to supplement the game and if they are detracting from the quality of the experience by hampering a majority's ability to understand what's going on, then they are NOT a good caster.

You are asking a majority audience to make-do with a substandard caster because of your own personal beef with Americans. Are you trying to murder interest in Starcraft as a video game? If the representation of a professional caster for one of the biggest events in the world is someone who infact hampers the experience, then it reflects very poorly upon GSL and Starcraft as a whole.


Ok first off socialising with Australians isn't going to help you understand someone from Singapoore.

Secondly, I'm not pushing and view on any one I'm simply saying that she is a great caster and that an ASIAN tournament has picked an ASIAN caster and people should not be so narrow minded as to say THIS IS RIGHT AND NOTHING ELSE IS.

Thirdly I love Tasteless and to all the people saying Kellys game knowledge is lacking... You obviously mute the stream every second time Tasteless talks because its usually something wrong, however entertaining it is.

Lastly... You are from NZL.. Do you views even count?


I would tone down your belligerent attitude. You're not going to last too long in the Team Liquid community with this type of language.
Don't mind me
motiust
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia97 Posts
February 17 2011 12:47 GMT
#56
Guys,

Come to think of it, that Kelly might be trolling all of us!! sif GomTV gonna sign up someone like her lol.
i think she along with TB and everyone could be larfing at this two threads atm..

or GomTV did really employed Kelly, but she stuffed it up with twitter which backfired big time and GomTV has excuse to terminate her contract.

Anyways, GSL is next week peeps! anything can happen, i already got my premium pass! :D can't wait for some Singlish PWNAGE!!!! lol
Euronyme
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden3804 Posts
February 17 2011 12:48 GMT
#57
On February 17 2011 21:43 minimat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2011 21:36 iko wrote:
On February 17 2011 21:10 minimat wrote:
Wow I can't believe all you ignorant fucks. We put up with American accents for EVERYTHING, even the god dam Australian Tennis Open has an American commentator. Get over the fact that you are going to maybe have to strain you're precious ears a little bit to understand what she is saying because she is a great caster and if she doesn't get this spot it will be total bullshit.

GOM if this post is about Kelly not getting the spot then that is a fucking disgrace on you're part.


Do not project your views upon others - I'm another oceanic person and I have trouble understanding her poor casting and I spend all day socializing with Australians.

You also have to consider the fact that straining to understand a caster is one of the biggest drawbacks ever - they are there to supplement the game and if they are detracting from the quality of the experience by hampering a majority's ability to understand what's going on, then they are NOT a good caster.

You are asking a majority audience to make-do with a substandard caster because of your own personal beef with Americans. Are you trying to murder interest in Starcraft as a video game? If the representation of a professional caster for one of the biggest events in the world is someone who infact hampers the experience, then it reflects very poorly upon GSL and Starcraft as a whole.


Ok first off socialising with Australians isn't going to help you understand someone from Singapoore.

Secondly, I'm not pushing and view on any one I'm simply saying that she is a great caster and that an ASIAN tournament has picked an ASIAN caster and people should not be so narrow minded as to say THIS IS RIGHT AND NOTHING ELSE IS.

Thirdly I love Tasteless and to all the people saying Kellys game knowledge is lacking... You obviously mute the stream every second time Tasteless talks because its usually something wrong, however entertaining it is.

Lastly... You are from NZL.. Do you views even count?


This has nothing to do with right and wrong. The most important issue people are complaining about is that they don't understand what she's saying. I've caught up a little and listened to her dota casts, as well as some SC2, and honestly I don't understand what she's saying part of the time.
I bet i can maı̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̨̨̨̨̨̨ke you wipe your screen.
Hunterai
Profile Joined October 2010
Thailand842 Posts
February 17 2011 12:49 GMT
#58
WTF... If GOM ditches her without even giving her a chance after promising her the job, I will be really really disappointed.

After the censor of Jinro interview about the soundproof-ability (is that a word?) then this?

Makes you wonder how trust-worthy is GOM T_T
ptbl
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6074 Posts
February 17 2011 12:53 GMT
#59
On February 17 2011 21:49 Hunterai wrote:
WTF... If GOM ditches her without even giving her a chance after promising her the job, I will be really really disappointed.

After the censor of Jinro interview about the soundproof-ability (is that a word?) then this?

Makes you wonder how trust-worthy is GOM T_T


Technically, GOM could terminate Kelly's offer due to a breach of contract. Kelly made the announcement on her twitter without an official word from GOMTV.
Don't mind me
raser
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway301 Posts
February 17 2011 13:01 GMT
#60
On February 17 2011 21:43 minimat wrote:
Lastly... You are from NZL.. Do you views even count?


don't go into bashing a country please
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 13 14 15 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 6m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
EnDerr 26
Rex 20
Trap 16
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 6362
Shuttle 4456
Horang2 1777
Jaedong 1345
BeSt 515
actioN 463
firebathero 409
Killer 349
Larva 338
Mini 275
[ Show more ]
Hyun 237
Soulkey 235
EffOrt 215
Zeus 190
Light 140
HiyA 121
Last 107
ZZZero.O 100
PianO 83
Stork 78
Pusan 70
ZerO 67
Rush 59
Mind 52
hero 39
Hm[arnc] 34
sSak 26
Sharp 26
Bale 24
Aegong 24
Shine 23
ToSsGirL 16
sorry 16
yabsab 15
Noble 13
ajuk12(nOOB) 10
Sexy 10
SilentControl 9
Dota 2
XcaliburYe203
Fuzer 187
420jenkins166
Counter-Strike
x6flipin196
zeus169
nookyyy 100
edward34
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King160
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor196
Other Games
singsing1399
XaKoH 260
ZerO(Twitch)13
B2W.Neo1
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1935
StarCraft 2
WardiTV71
IntoTheiNu 26
[ Show 11 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH387
• StrangeGG 76
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos1729
Upcoming Events
WardiTV Weekly
6m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
23h 6m
Afreeca Starleague
23h 6m
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 5h
GSL
2 days
PiGosaur Cup
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
The PondCast
3 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
5 days
CranKy Ducklings
5 days
[ Show More ]
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-08-27
PiG Sty Festival 8.0
Light Tournament 2026

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
K-JUNGMAN
ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
CSL Season 22: Qualifier 2
BSL 2026 LAN: Kraków
RSL Revival: Season 6
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
Esports World Cup 2026: LCQ
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026

Upcoming

CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Escore Tournament S3: King of Kings
Acropolis #5
Acropolis #5 - TRS
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Acropolis #5 - GSA
Acropolis #5 - GSB
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Calamity Invitational
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.