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Iamyournoob
Germany595 Posts
I think the most important thing for a caster is to create atmosphere. I want a caster to make the game exciting, to speed up my pulse when a battle is going on and make an event out of a match. Sure, a caster needs to have a good game sense and but I don't think that being in master's league is a necessity. | ||
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Tenks
United States3104 Posts
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wxlancer
United States14 Posts
Their game knowledge is difficult to replace in one sense - rather than simply being good players who can break down a situation on the fly, they know the competitors personally, their quirks and eccentricities, their rivalries, their history, their recent games, and can instantly bring that context to bear, and I think that's a huge part of bringing these matches to life. | ||
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PartyBiscuit
Canada4525 Posts
On February 17 2011 04:17 MementoMori wrote: It seems very likely that Kelly will not be casting alone and with rumors going around that she will be joined by http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/TorcH, what does it matter if she does not have as much game knowledge as Artosis for example? She will likely fill the role that Tasteless has been filling. Based on her casting both live and in her vods, she does not strive to be "the funny one". It will likely be two commentators, instead of a commentator + caster, and it will be very likely an awkward position they'll be in. | ||
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ThaZenith
Canada3116 Posts
Casters need at least one person with deep knowledge, and the other person has to have at least enough knowledge not to make retarded comments. If the "not knowledgeable" caster can only make the most obvious of observations, I think they don't know enough to be casting. | ||
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Sea.3PO
Canada77 Posts
Imagine watching a game, and the caster makes a comment like "oh, hes adding gateways now with his 2 gas, I think this is going to be a gas heavy 4 gate rush attack" while watching a player do a standard 3 gate expand build in pvz. So many times do I hear bad commentators say things similar to this. When it is quite obvious from a players point of view, what is going on, but because the commentator barely has any real experience in game, he isn't able to accurately read a simple build order and expand on things like what his opponent should be doing to scout it and react to it. When that happens, as it often does, what point do I have to listen to their commentary at that point? To simply listen to their voice? I might as well mute the stream because I can already understand what is going on in the game better than the caster can. The point I am trying to make, is that a casters skill level should be higher than the vast majority of their viewers to keep things interesting and actually be able to inform people of things they may not have thought about. If you cannot obtain a ladder rank of high diamond, or masters, you shouldn't be casting. Simple as that. The reason being is that to any player above your skill level or knowledge level, the cast will provide no information past what the viewer already knows. And at that point, the viewer has no real reason to listen to the cast, aside from maybe hearing some funny anecdotes to help pass through the boring stages of the game. | ||
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Gorguts
Canada254 Posts
On February 17 2011 04:30 DrBoo wrote: Take for example the UFC you have Mike Goldberg who has lets admit it not a freaking clue what's going on in the matchup. Then you have Joe Rogan who is very, very knowledgeable about what is happening and it works together well. Omfg I hate that guy soo much. "IT'S ALLLL OVER!!!!" | ||
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Jayrod
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brentsen
1252 Posts
On the other hand game knowledge isn't everything, if the caster excels in the other areas (like enjoyability, voice etc.) it's okay. The best thing to have is 2 casters that work well together, that's why Tastosis are my favorites. On a side note I kind of enjoyed Jason Lee even though his SC2 knowledge was quite poor. | ||
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cordlc
United States360 Posts
The non-German speakers that enjoyed Khaldor's stream know this, as do the fans of people like HD / Husky. The way I see it, I know enough about the game that someone like Artosis will rarely say something I don't already know anyway, so it isn't a big deal (though info about player backgrounds, history and stuff is interesting). People may trash on some of the lesser knowledgable casters, but the fact is they're skilled at keeping the audience excited. As long as they don't try to analyze too much (making it clear they don't know much about the game), and they know enough to follow the important parts of the game (good with the observer camera and tabs), it's all good. | ||
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tealc
109 Posts
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ihavetofartosis
1277 Posts
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haka
United States1414 Posts
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Zidane
United States1685 Posts
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KevinIX
United States2472 Posts
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butter
United States785 Posts
Of course there should be moments of surprise when a player does something unpredicted, or the game takes an unexpected turn, but if a commentator appears perpetually lost then it becomes hard for the audience to share in the experience of the game. | ||
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Anchen
United States31 Posts
Joe Buck -play by play/Troy Aikman, color Kenny Albert/Daryl Johnston Greg Gumble/Dan Dierdorf John Miller/Joe Morgan Which also technically is how Tastosis is broken down. Tasteless is actually technically the play by play guy and Artosis is the color commentator. It's just Artosis tends to come in anyway which is fine. Of course I have no idea how they plan to break down the roles for her and presumably torch and if it would work...Her accent makes play by play potentially tough and she's not really a guru for color commentary. | ||
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Fa1nT
United States3423 Posts
Tasteless could not comment SC2 alone, he needs Artosis Just like Husky cannot comment a GSL There is a difference between "shout"crafting and casting. The difference is that this is Code A, and Tasteosis don't really commentate it anyway besides the "oh this guy is running his army into siege tanks......" It's a good stepping stone for kelly and it might work out fine. | ||
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Sein
United States1811 Posts
On February 17 2011 05:05 brentsen wrote: On a side note I kind of enjoyed Jason Lee even though his SC2 knowledge was quite poor. That's because he has qualities of a good general caster (easy-to-listen voice and good enunciation), which almost made up for his lack of knowledge (almost, not quite) when supported by someone who does have a decent understanding of the game. | ||
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GameTime
United States222 Posts
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