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lifessavers
Profile Joined January 2011
17 Posts
January 19 2011 23:49 GMT
#1
Hi everyone im a bronze player in SEA and for the past week I've been playing 4v4s. There is a player that seems to leave everygame as soon as it starts. I have reported this person and in games many others have witnessed / experienced this person's actions. I do not know what he has to gain from this. Is anyone else experiencing these problems?
HeroHenry
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1723 Posts
January 19 2011 23:51 GMT
#2
I think when you win the 4 v 4 he gets the win to so that might be what hes doing? I not sure since I don't play team games.
Najda
Profile Joined June 2010
United States3765 Posts
January 19 2011 23:52 GMT
#3
It's a fast way to mass wins since your team gets control of your units leaving the game still reasonably balanced. Some could say if even gives you an advantage, but in a 4v4 that would be a very miniscule advantage.
FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
January 19 2011 23:52 GMT
#4
He leaves the game and hopes his team still wins the game so he also gets a win and just joins another game straight away.. and that's probably what he's doing the whole day... achievements and stuff.

At least that seemed to be a problem in teamgames a while, no idea if it still works, might be something different.
Kevmeister @ Dota2
echO [W]
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1495 Posts
January 19 2011 23:52 GMT
#5
It's for achievement farming, if he leaves 5 minutes after the game ends and you guys end up winning, he'll get the win.
"Or a school bus over a bunch of kids" - Tasteless --- “A man's errors are his portals of discovery.” - James Joyce
MuteZephyr
Profile Joined August 2010
Lithuania448 Posts
January 19 2011 23:52 GMT
#6
Portrait farming, people are super lame. He still gets a win of the team wins, thus he can just leave a bunch of games and then wait.

The only thing you can do is report the idiot and hope Blizz makes a fix for this sometime soon.
I don't Micro, I FEMTO. That's 9 orders of magnitude more extreme.
MicroJFox
Profile Joined August 2010
United States38 Posts
January 19 2011 23:54 GMT
#7
Someone made this famous by getting a high level portrait by leaving tons of games.

The justification is this: in a random 4v4, the chances of a team winning is 50%. In a random 3v4 (one dropped), the chances of the smaller team winning might be 30%.

Assume each game takes 20 minutes, and to join and drop immediately takes 1 minute. To get 500 wins, the normal player will need to play 1,000 games at 20 minutes each, taking 20,000 minutes. The dropper will need to join and leave 1,667 games at 1 minute each, yielding a total of 1,667 minutes.

Thus, the normal player needs 20,000 minutes to get a 500 icon, the dropper needs 1,667 minutes.
Noev
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1105 Posts
January 19 2011 23:55 GMT
#8
On January 20 2011 08:52 MuteZephyr wrote:
Portrait farming, people are super lame. He still gets a win of the team wins, thus he can just leave a bunch of games and then wait.

The only thing you can do is report the idiot and hope Blizz makes a fix for this sometime soon.


This has been a problem for a long time and blizzard has still not found or implemented a fix for it yet. But yes as others have stated its an easy way to mass games and wins to gain achievements portraits or whatever else blizzard rewards players who win a lot of multiplayer games with.
lifessavers
Profile Joined January 2011
17 Posts
January 19 2011 23:57 GMT
#9
Ok thanks for the knowledge guys I hope these people get banned
Morphs
Profile Joined July 2010
Netherlands645 Posts
January 19 2011 23:59 GMT
#10
I can't really have any admiration for those portrait-hoarders. If I see anyone with the Dark Voice portrait and his stats are messed up, I only think "what a lame-ass". So what they basically do is being a lame-ass by ruining thousands of games, get a portrait for it so other people will also think "what a lame-ass". Now is that something you want to invest time in?

I find more joy in pursuing that flashy diamond...
KillerPlague
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1386 Posts
January 20 2011 00:04 GMT
#11
nobody has really mentioned this, most likely to the obviousness of it, but when he leaves his minerals are split allowing his teamates to mass and tech ridiculously quickly. this gives the team a huge advantage when rushing (can support more rax, etc. earlier) allowing the team with a disadvantage to win.
Side 1: Why no dominant players with 90% win ratio Side 2: Nerf Side 1
god_forbids
Profile Joined October 2010
United States111 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-20 00:14:20
January 20 2011 00:12 GMT
#12
Wow. Hate, nerd rage, jealousy. That's all I see here.

"Oh poo, dey dun pley da game da way poopsie sez to play it, QQ i'ma ban dat bad man! ban ban!"

Who cares how other people play? This is not a bannable offense any more than 6pool/4gate/etc. and results in the same amount of high-pitched whining. Anyone "serious" about 4v4s (ha!) would play with a team anyway so why do you care if someone leaves the game?

Because they get worthless pictures that make them look "better than they are"? Point the finger at Blizzard for putting the incentive there rather than cry about abusive players and try to ban them.
Junkka: "I prepared this" Protoss hwaiting!!!
DrSeRRoD
Profile Joined October 2010
United States490 Posts
January 20 2011 00:16 GMT
#13
Blizzard patched this out about 2 patched ago. While they can get a win, it does not count towards portraits unless they are in the game X amount (or %) of the game time. Check that person's account and see if they are getting wins and also towards portraits but there was a blue post over a month ago stating that this was patched out. Perhaps they should have been more verbal about it so that people quit doing it since they probably are wondering how they got 100+ wins this weekend but not a single achievement.
Iyerbeth
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
England2410 Posts
January 20 2011 00:17 GMT
#14
On January 20 2011 09:12 god_forbids wrote:
Wow. Hate, nerd rage, jealousy. That's all I see here.

"Oh poo, dey dun pley da game da way poopsie sez to play it, QQ i'ma ban dat bad man! ban ban!"

Who cares how other people play? This is not a bannable offense any more than 6pool/4gate/etc. and results in the same amount of high-pitched whining. Anyone "serious" about 4v4s (ha!) would play with a team anyway so why do you care if someone leaves the game?

Because they get worthless pictures that make them look "better than they are"? Point the finger at Blizzard for putting the incentive there rather than cry about abusive players and try to ban them.


Yeah, all abusive players should be left to abuse the system, and no discussions or attempts should be made to try to resolve the abuse. The loopwhole is there, therefore it is perfectly acceptable to mess up thousands of other players games. Perfectly reasonable.
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Keitzer
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2509 Posts
January 20 2011 00:26 GMT
#15
meh, i don't think it's a bannable offense since
1. tournaments are 1v1
2. if you're serious team gamer, play with a team, not randoms
I'm like badass squared | KeitZer.489
kerpal
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom2695 Posts
January 20 2011 00:31 GMT
#16
On January 20 2011 09:26 Keitzer wrote:
meh, i don't think it's a bannable offense since
1. tournaments are 1v1
2. if you're serious team gamer, play with a team, not randoms

it's not just about serious play.. i think there should be some kind of protection for people who just want to play fun 4v4s. just cause you're not serious doesn't make it nice that someone drops out of your game and leaves you a man down. it's ruining other people's experience for the sake of personal gain, i don't know about bans, but i'd like to see something done.
god_forbids
Profile Joined October 2010
United States111 Posts
January 20 2011 00:34 GMT
#17
So we should make any type of SCV all-in a bannable offense as well, since they "mess up thousands of other players games"? I understand what you are saying but beyond the fixes already implemented, Blizzard is not interested in this "problem".

There is no loophole and this is not abuse. The only thing the 300-second minimum rule has done so far is deprive me of legit wins when my team goes for a fast rush and the other guys leave to deprive us of achievement credit. Shall I QQ more about that?
Junkka: "I prepared this" Protoss hwaiting!!!
Keitzer
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2509 Posts
January 20 2011 00:36 GMT
#18
On January 20 2011 09:31 kerpal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2011 09:26 Keitzer wrote:
meh, i don't think it's a bannable offense since
1. tournaments are 1v1
2. if you're serious team gamer, play with a team, not randoms

it's not just about serious play.. i think there should be some kind of protection for people who just want to play fun 4v4s. just cause you're not serious doesn't make it nice that someone drops out of your game and leaves you a man down. it's ruining other people's experience for the sake of personal gain, i don't know about bans, but i'd like to see something done.


that's like saying "ya 1v1 is fun, but the 4gates man, they ruin it... for their own personal gain"

i see no difference in the threat level. and thus blizzard will not act on this.
I'm like badass squared | KeitZer.489
DarkRise
Profile Joined November 2010
1644 Posts
January 20 2011 00:48 GMT
#19
it happen in team games and allows his team mates to rapidly build production and do an early timing attack. lings, fast zealots or marines rush are far more effective
Ofc people do it for easy wins to get portraits
HuggyBear
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia377 Posts
January 20 2011 00:48 GMT
#20
He gains wins, and from what I notice if people are decent in teams, they would just simply rush units from the boost in resources and win 3v4
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