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0neder
United States3733 Posts
On December 24 2010 06:59 k43r wrote: I heard that they need to balance small maps to get to the bigger ones. I'm not saying this is your logic, but this is retarded logic. The size IS the balance in this case. | ||
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MrMotionPicture
United States4327 Posts
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Subversion
South Africa3627 Posts
On December 24 2010 06:46 Plexa wrote: Yes and no. It's the reason for all of the complaints listed in the OP, but I think the OP believes that Blizzard will do something eventually. I mean we're still waiting for Shakuras to be re-added to the map pool.... The only way anything will ever happen is if the community takes it upon itself to make a change, which is really really difficult. But there really isn't any other way you're going to see a healthy rotation of maps. Blizzard are just leaving it up to the community to figure it out. I'm not sure I understand. How exactly CAN the community do anything? I mean, we HAVE done something, there are tons of great maps out there. In terms of getting them into the map pool, thats entirely on Blizzard, we have no control over that. So how exactly is Blizzard expecting us to "figure it out"? | ||
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ghermination
United States2851 Posts
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Treadmill
Canada2833 Posts
Edit: and to not mess with the maps between seasons. | ||
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Barbiero
Brazil5259 Posts
Just my thought. | ||
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FuRong
New Zealand3089 Posts
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vrok
Sweden2541 Posts
On December 24 2010 09:04 Subversion wrote: I'm not sure I understand. How exactly CAN the community do anything? I mean, we HAVE done something, there are tons of great maps out there. In terms of getting them into the map pool, thats entirely on Blizzard, we have no control over that. So how exactly is Blizzard expecting us to "figure it out"? Whine, whine and whine until tournament organizers start using proper maps designed for tournament play. The maps will spread from there via pro players to other tournaments, practice partners and casuals with an interest in playing real Starcraft. Chat channels are a decent enough tool for enabling this process. If you meant the ladder map pool then no, that thing is basically dead. Blizzard will never be able to keep up. We should take every chance we get when leaving feedback regarding tournaments to whine about bad and/or imbalanced maps like SoW, DQ, JB, BS and even close position Metalopolis. | ||
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Ai52487963
United Kingdom136 Posts
I feel like if MLG started using more and more ICCup maps, things could take a different turn. MLG already has their own map pool for Halo, where they tweaked all of Bungie's terrible ideas for competitive gameplay. That caused a huge shift for competitive Halo towards the redesigned MLG maps. They should think about maybe hiring the ICCup guys to do maps for them or something. | ||
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FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
Also companys take more care over their products, to prevent to much 3rd party stuff. So sc2 could really well end up like wc3 . Will take some high donated tourneys that just force their maps. So pros will start to train these maps. As long its more rentable to play the blizzard maps, they will evade to train other maps. And even if the map is good the play on the map will not look to good and the map will be forgotton really fast. (If prize money is low) And since it sounds like blizzard is working close together with gomtv, well ^^ ... All it needs are people that can mobilize the masses hehe. PS: merry christmas ! ^^ | ||
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Lonyo
United Kingdom3884 Posts
PTR where user maps are tested. Varied map pool depending on league. Higher leagues have more maps, because you don't need to keep it simple as the players are better. Bronze has ~9 maps like now. Silver/Gold maybe have one or two more, Plat/Gold maybe some more, Diamond has more maps too. These maps are derived from the user maps/PTR testing to check for balance/etc. That way the lower level players don't get overwhelmed, maps don't get randomly thrown in, and higher level players have a bigger and hopefully more varied map pool. Blizzard (IIRC) already owns all the rights to your map anyway when you upload it. | ||
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NuKedUFirst
Canada3139 Posts
Their current "Add any whenever, take any out some randomly, but never rotate maps" mind set is just awful. | ||
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pzea469
United States1520 Posts
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fabiano
Brazil4644 Posts
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monitor
United States2408 Posts
Now, even finding a game on a custom map is hard because of the popularity system. When chat channels come out, I'm sure there will be a channel like "Custom Melee" to find games with friends. | ||
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Blyadischa
419 Posts
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ZerOfy
United Kingdom405 Posts
Need good maps for the love of Flash. | ||
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Steel
Japan2283 Posts
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ReketSomething
United States6012 Posts
On December 24 2010 09:48 pzea469 wrote: I think MAYBE we need to stop playing ladder and simply start playing on ICCUP maps. Yeah, auto-matchmaking is awesome, but if it means boring maps that i don't like then I'd gladly give it up and play custom games. ICCUP and bw ramake maps make me drewl. Problem is that there are no game names and theres no way to know if theres a map opening. For example, if you want to play FS, you will join and then wait forever. No one will know that you are waiting. Also, since theres no game name, D/1000 diamond player may join when you are B-/3000 diamond or something... | ||
bkrow
Australia8532 Posts
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