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Silidons
United States2813 Posts
On December 04 2010 12:33 Luckbox wrote: If Corruptors were as efficient a counter as Phoenixes are to Mutas I would be completely onboard. Corruptors absolutely destroy Phoenix...what game are you playing? 2 more range on them too. | ||
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bluestuff
Canada893 Posts
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k20
United States342 Posts
On December 04 2010 12:34 Daiki wrote: I wish blizzard would change the fungal growth and it'll be nice if more than 2 ppl can watch the same replay Wait what? 2 people can watch the same replay right now? | ||
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FabledIntegral
United States9232 Posts
On December 04 2010 12:01 vyyye wrote: Worst anti-air for dealing with harass early-mid game, it's hardly a myth. Wasn't unbalanced in any way either, just the nature of the race. Compare queens to stalkers or marines. I get what you're saying, and I'm fine with phoenix being an air superiority unit. In fact I don't really give a damn that it's hard to go air vs. a phoenix user, there's a lot of other ways of killing him then and there should be some answer to mutas other than killing Z before spire tech. It's the no risk free drone harassment that bugs me. But uh, I'm repeating myself now, suppose we can only wait and see. BUT FOR GOD SAKE PEOPLE STOP SAYING SPORE CRAWLERS. PLEASE. (not directed at above quote) Spore crawlers do work though, you're crazy. Get two, plus the queen, and they're aboslutely fine until you start to get a buttload of phoenixes, which at that point two spores shouldn't work anyways. I could see spore range being increased by one, however. | ||
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azn_dude1
162 Posts
On the other hand, scv changes are good. I'd like to see the bunker change become permanent. Bunkers got nerfed because of reapers. With the lack of reapers, bunkers don't need the extra build time. I'm curious to see what the extreme graphics looks like. Ultra looks great and extreme sounds ridiculous. Void rays had a hard time against massive units and the speed upgrade was op. I really don't see the obs cost coming into play. Most protoss build only 1 obs and having a 25 less gas cost won't really affect it but it's a nice change anyways. | ||
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birdkicker
United States752 Posts
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infestation123
United States5 Posts
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Cyanocyst
2222 Posts
On December 04 2010 12:33 charlie420247 wrote: just for the record mutalisks suck ass vs voids. Vs lots of voids yes they do, but in smaller numbers Mutalisks do ok. | ||
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Caphe
Vietnam10817 Posts
On December 04 2010 12:36 raidmaster wrote: I don't get it. What does it mean? Example? Thx in advance. Enemy units will attack SCV or the one they are repairing whoever is closest. For example, before the patch 5 roaches will only attack the Thor, but now they will attack the repairing scvs that in front of the Thor. Thats what I think, not sure though | ||
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synapse
China13814 Posts
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charlie420247
United States692 Posts
On December 04 2010 12:33 Silidons wrote: I don't understand your and other zergs reasoning. Phoenix's deal with Muta harrass, but you forced us to make Phoenix's. Why are you avoiding Corruptors? We had to make Phoenix, but you don't have to make Corruptor like us? That's what I don't understand. You're completely avoiding the real strategy and trying to make it look like it's worse for you than it actually is. first off, noone forces a toss to go phoenix. the toss does whatever the fuck he wants and the zerg needs to react. we avoid corruptors because they cant hit ground. at least phoenix can lift ground units and hit them. i agree hes exaggerating as many players do and just QQing hydras are not THAT bad. but i think your making it overly simple by just saying "build corrupters dummy" | ||
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McMonty
Canada379 Posts
On December 04 2010 11:11 Fa1nT wrote: you can blink under a ball, and kite forever with phoenixes o.- spoooooreeee crawwwwwllleeeerrrrrrrrsssssssss | ||
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Archaic
United States4024 Posts
It was the most consistent way to prevent drops. | ||
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happyness
United States2400 Posts
On December 04 2010 12:33 Silidons wrote: I don't understand your and other zergs reasoning. Phoenix's deal with Muta harrass, but you forced us to make Phoenix's. Why are you avoiding Corruptors? We had to make Phoenix, but you don't have to make Corruptor like us? That's what I don't understand. You're completely avoiding the real strategy and trying to make it look like it's worse for you than it actually is. As a toss player I can actually see where zerg is coming from. Phoenixes are at least useful once the zerg stops making mutas. They can abuse workers, kill overlords, and absorb damgae for collossus. Corruptors on the other hand really can't do to much except countering collossus and becoming brood lords late game. If I played zerg I would be mad too. But I'm not so whatever  And Idra said it earlier, but now ZvZ is really going to suck even more. | ||
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Onioncookie
Germany624 Posts
On December 04 2010 12:37 Silidons wrote: Corruptors absolutely destroy Phoenix...what game are you playing? 2 more range on them too. Wich unit can run away, and so doesnt have to fight?? Wich unit gets totaly useless except against air/collosi Wich unit can harras the others player supply? Wich unit can be used to harras production/income? Now you know how i feel  | ||
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GoldenH
1115 Posts
That would actually make sense, and not ruin ZvZ. Drops have been nerfed enough, slower medivac + nobody uses warp prism/overlord. | ||
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Elevenst
Canada249 Posts
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vyyye
Sweden3917 Posts
On December 04 2010 12:40 happyness wrote: And Idra said it earlier, but now ZvZ is really going to suck even more. That would imply ZvZ sucked in the first place. It was bad when it was all about bling wars but the matchup is actually getting quite interesting. Oddly enough I started to like it, quite a lot of strategies you can use. This patch changes that however, as you said. Goddamn, mirrors. | ||
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avilo
United States4100 Posts
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MythicalMage
1360 Posts
On December 04 2010 12:39 Archaic wrote: That fungal growth change... What the heck... It was the most consistent way to prevent drops. Perhaps the mentality of Blzzard is that Zerg can make the most stuff so they should be the most vulnerable to harass. | ||
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