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Strelok
Profile Joined January 2006
Ukraine320 Posts
October 26 2010 14:18 GMT
#21
wow very funny thing =)
nataziel
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Australia1455 Posts
October 26 2010 15:00 GMT
#22
On October 26 2010 23:16 AcrossFiveJulys wrote:
Wouldn't this not work if they had detection nearby? So why not just fly your banshee in cloaked rather than cloaking at the last second?


Because then the banshee won't be targeted for the first volley. Basically this way you absorb the first volley by cloaking the banshee once the missiles have been shot, making them miss. As long as you send your vikings in immediately after you should have an advantage in the ensuing battle because the opponent's viking's attacks will be on cooldown.
u gotta sk8
acrimoneyius
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States983 Posts
October 26 2010 15:07 GMT
#23
This is a neat trick that gives you a small edge in rare situations. I really hope they don't patch this.
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
October 26 2010 15:10 GMT
#24
It saved Nada's Banshee. I thought she was dead for sure when the Viking missiles went towards her.
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
Detectable
Profile Joined October 2010
Norway58 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-26 16:27:02
October 26 2010 16:26 GMT
#25
On October 27 2010 00:10 rastaban wrote:
It saved Nada's Banshee. I thought she was dead for sure when the Viking missiles went towards her.


Yeah, I remember Tasteless going uh-oh-uhhh? Now I know why it happened
"Oh it's easy, just lose your whole fucking base!" -Day[9]
Ndugu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1078 Posts
October 26 2010 16:28 GMT
#26
The use of stacking vikings has made me REALLY excited for some potential HSM usage.
MorroW
Profile Joined August 2008
Sweden3522 Posts
October 26 2010 16:28 GMT
#27
On October 26 2010 22:30 lowercase wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2010 21:05 Detectable wrote:
On October 26 2010 20:52 MorroW wrote:
not new :p also most tvt players have a raven in their mix on top of that u almost never see more than 5 stacked vikings because u dont want to overkill in case opponents viking comes in for a battle


How is the Raven detection range compared to the 9 range on the Vikings? I assume keeping the Raven in front of the Vikings will be a terrible idea in most cases. Although the PDD will prevent the enemy Vikings from sniping your own patrolling Vikings, the banshee can still cloak, basically just making sure the PDD will even out the battle, instead of giving an advantage

Vikings devour PDD energy, it takes two shots of the laser to stop each salvo (of two missiles) from each viking.

the raven sight is longer/equal than the viking range for sure lol
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Detectable
Profile Joined October 2010
Norway58 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-26 16:34:45
October 26 2010 16:34 GMT
#28
On October 27 2010 01:28 Ndugu wrote:
The use of stacking vikings has made me REALLY excited for some potential HSM usage.


Just pray you do not recieve death threats by mail when the opponent realize what happened.

By the way, I just checked, and the detectionrange for the Raven is in fact 11, so that will render the cloak trick pretty much useless once a raven is out
"Oh it's easy, just lose your whole fucking base!" -Day[9]
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
October 26 2010 16:44 GMT
#29
Works like in wc3, and its one of the reasons why dota has such a high skill level. Nothing new though.
Bartundar
Snowfield
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
1289 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-26 16:51:09
October 26 2010 16:50 GMT
#30
Another way to fuck a stack up: HSM

edit: saw it was already said, soz, anyway, i want a awesome HSM against tons of stacked viking video
simme123
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Sweden810 Posts
October 26 2010 16:54 GMT
#31
hmm since it works with cloak does anyone know if it would work for ghosts? or even zergs burrow? with just any projectile that you are able to see marauder attack for instance,
leveller
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden1840 Posts
October 26 2010 16:54 GMT
#32
cast range on hsm is very low so raven will be dead before casting.
KovuTalli
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom325 Posts
October 26 2010 17:02 GMT
#33
Did you have to post this? I used to use this all the time. Now everyone will know and it'll be fixed.
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Ekko
Profile Joined September 2010
United States72 Posts
October 26 2010 17:11 GMT
#34
Does this work with burrow?
Don't try to jump a cliff in two leaps.
bLuR
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada625 Posts
October 26 2010 17:11 GMT
#35
this is cool but hard to pull off in game.. i always knew cloak stopped incoming attacks but never tried this because its too micro intensive and i might mess up causing me to lose worse
Seide
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States831 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-26 17:13:57
October 26 2010 17:11 GMT
#36
cool trick, but I dont see it being too terribly applicable as you could just use a couple of ravens and several pdds, istead of suiciding a banshee and relying on a small timing window to cloak :/ they arent exactly cheap
One fish, two fish, red fish, blue fish.
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
October 26 2010 17:12 GMT
#37
Pretty sure its been known that if you cloak before the attack hits that it doesn't do damage, it's been seen in a ton of tournaments and showmatches and stuff. ie: banshee running away from a scan and just getting out of range while the vikings shots are coming in, or a dt running out of detection/scan range just in time as a marauder shot or banshee shot was coming in.
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Paperscraps
Profile Joined March 2010
United States639 Posts
October 26 2010 17:26 GMT
#38
This reminds me of DOTA, how going invisible would disjoint a ranged attack, if you didn't have any detection. Interesting that it is in SC2. Not sure yet on whether it can really be abused or not.
"Because in the end, the only way we can measure the significance of our own lives is by valuing the lives of others.” - David Gale
Virtue
Profile Joined July 2010
United States318 Posts
October 26 2010 17:29 GMT
#39
Knowing blizzard, they'll take this as a glitch and patch it like Sockfolding.
TurboDreams
Profile Joined April 2009
United States427 Posts
October 26 2010 17:30 GMT
#40
Hopefully Blizzard doesn't see it or else they will patch it. Ive seen alot of the "skillful" glitches taken out to make it as fair as possible. (Neural Parasite while burrowed trick)
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