On October 26 2010 23:16 AcrossFiveJulys wrote:
Wouldn't this not work if they had detection nearby? So why not just fly your banshee in cloaked rather than cloaking at the last second?

Because then the banshee won't be targeted for the first volley. Basically this way you absorb the first volley by cloaking the banshee once the missiles have been shot, making them miss. As long as you send your vikings in immediately after you should have an advantage in the ensuing battle because the opponent's viking's attacks will be on cooldown.

acrimoneyius

United States983 Posts

October 26 2010 15:07 GMT

#23

This is a neat trick that gives you a small edge in rare situations. I really hope they don't patch this.

rastaban

United States2294 Posts

October 26 2010 15:10 GMT

#24

It saved Nada's Banshee. I thought she was dead for sure when the Viking missiles went towards her.

Detectable

Norway58 Posts

October 26 2010 16:26 GMT

#25

On October 27 2010 00:10 rastaban wrote:
It saved Nada's Banshee. I thought she was dead for sure when the Viking missiles went towards her.

Yeah, I remember Tasteless going uh-oh-uhhh? Now I know why it happened

Ndugu

United States1078 Posts

October 26 2010 16:28 GMT

#26

The use of stacking vikings has made me REALLY excited for some potential HSM usage.

MorroW

Sweden3522 Posts

October 26 2010 16:28 GMT

#27

On October 26 2010 22:30 lowercase wrote:

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Vikings devour PDD energy, it takes two shots of the laser to stop each salvo (of two missiles) from each viking.

the raven sight is longer/equal than the viking range for sure lol

Detectable

Norway58 Posts

October 26 2010 16:34 GMT

#28

On October 27 2010 01:28 Ndugu wrote:
The use of stacking vikings has made me REALLY excited for some potential HSM usage.

Just pray you do not recieve death threats by mail when the opponent realize what happened.

By the way, I just checked, and the detectionrange for the Raven is in fact 11, so that will render the cloak trick pretty much useless once a raven is out

Barundar

Denmark1582 Posts

October 26 2010 16:44 GMT

#29

Works like in wc3, and its one of the reasons why dota has such a high skill level. Nothing new though.

Snowfield

1289 Posts

October 26 2010 16:50 GMT

#30

Another way to fuck a stack up: HSM

edit: saw it was already said, soz, anyway, i want a awesome HSM against tons of stacked viking video

simme123

Sweden810 Posts

October 26 2010 16:54 GMT

#31

hmm since it works with cloak does anyone know if it would work for ghosts? or even zergs burrow? with just any projectile that you are able to see marauder attack for instance,

leveller

Sweden1840 Posts

October 26 2010 16:54 GMT

#32

cast range on hsm is very low so raven will be dead before casting.

KovuTalli

United Kingdom325 Posts

October 26 2010 17:02 GMT

#33

Did you have to post this?

I used to use this all the time. Now everyone will know and it'll be fixed.

Ekko

United States72 Posts

October 26 2010 17:11 GMT

#34

Does this work with burrow?

bLuR

Canada625 Posts

October 26 2010 17:11 GMT

#35

this is cool but hard to pull off in game.. i always knew cloak stopped incoming attacks but never tried this because its too micro intensive and i might mess up causing me to lose worse

Seide

United States831 Posts

October 26 2010 17:11 GMT

#36

cool trick, but I dont see it being too terribly applicable as you could just use a couple of ravens and several pdds, istead of suiciding a banshee and relying on a small timing window to cloak :/ they arent exactly cheap

Zlasher

United States9129 Posts

October 26 2010 17:12 GMT

#37

Pretty sure its been known that if you cloak before the attack hits that it doesn't do damage, it's been seen in a ton of tournaments and showmatches and stuff. ie: banshee running away from a scan and just getting out of range while the vikings shots are coming in, or a dt running out of detection/scan range just in time as a marauder shot or banshee shot was coming in.

Paperscraps

United States639 Posts

October 26 2010 17:26 GMT

#38

This reminds me of DOTA, how going invisible would disjoint a ranged attack, if you didn't have any detection. Interesting that it is in SC2. Not sure yet on whether it can really be abused or not.

Virtue

United States318 Posts

October 26 2010 17:29 GMT

#39

Knowing blizzard, they'll take this as a glitch and patch it like Sockfolding.

TurboDreams

United States427 Posts

October 26 2010 17:30 GMT

#40

Hopefully Blizzard doesn't see it or else they will patch it. Ive seen alot of the "skillful" glitches taken out to make it as fair as possible. (Neural Parasite while burrowed trick)