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beat farm
United States478 Posts
On October 18 2010 04:44 Pyrthas wrote: lol, first you say you want Day9 because he understands the game, then you say you want Husky. Make up your mind. day9 understands the game and husky provides good entertainment=good combo | ||
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The Touch
United Kingdom667 Posts
On October 18 2010 01:40 itmeJP wrote: If you watched at home all weekend, tell us what you would like to see on the stream. Without wanting to sound like a complete douche (I'll probably fail, but I do feel this needs to be said), I'd need a working stream before I could tell you whether what was on it was worth watching. The free stream was working fine (at least for the 30 seconds or so that I watched), so I immediately paid my $10 (which worked out as upwards of 6 whole GBP) for the HD stream, and after that the best I got was 10 seconds of streaming before all downloading completely ceased, at which point I could refresh the browser and get another 10 seconds. And that was during the times when it actually acknowledged that a stream even existed (while others were talking about moments during the match, I was being greeted with a 'No Stream' message). And there was no option to just watch the free stream instead - which I knew was working. Frankly I'm happy enough for MLG to keep the money, because not only was it next to nothing (you can easily pay more for a shitty takeaway meal) but also because it supports esports. I definitely think it's a good thing that such tournaments exist, so I'm happy that I could be part of the funding for it. But based on this experience there's no way I'll pay again. And this is coming from somebody who was sufficiently satisfied with the GomTV stream to pay for it again for GSL2! So yeah, fix the streams (just make sure you don't cross them!). It sucks that I can't give other feedback, but judging by the tech forum posts, I'm far from the only one to have issues. | ||
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KentHenry
United States260 Posts
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Incognetus
United States49 Posts
What I really want is more games streamed. What about having a few cast teams. IE Day9+JP, HD+Husky, and another one and a few different "channels" to watch different games on. With So many games going on at the same team would be nice to have more streamed and casted | ||
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TwoThirtyTwo
United States2 Posts
I don't think the players should be sitting as close to the fans. Those end stations were right there with everyone crowded down the sides watching. I think a curtain or something should be behind the monitors so there aren't visual distractions. Fans could still watch from behind them but aren't going to be a distraction. Definitely make players use noise-canceling headphones also. A whiteboard should be put up and updated with bracket along with times for each round. As a spectator I had no clue when anything was happening. That goes for the other games too. I had friends playing in the SSBB and everyone had to continuously ask when the next round started or the finals. I missed the SC2 finals because I didn't know when it started. I don't think the National harbor was the best place to hold the event. It was such a high class area that the general MLG fans weren't going to actually enjoy it. It looked amazing, the Gaylord was amazing, but the price on everything suited someone who could actually afford to pay $300 a night staying there. I ran into many others who looked around at the places to eat and realized there wasn't anywhere to eat without spending $20-30 on a meal for 1 person, some were lucky enough to order pizza before dominos said they weren't taking any more orders. The only place to get bottled drinks was the small shop across from the convention center and they were $2.50 each. I slept in a car in a parking garage friday night and ate one meal between the two days besides the free foods being promoted. I'd suggest selling cheap bottled water inside so everyone isn't getting dehydrated from only drinking dr. pepper. Try to get a few food stands up selling pizza/sandwiches/hotdogs/burgers/whatever so fans can grab something to eat without having to drive 20 minutes like the case was at MLG DC. I'm sure there's places that would love to be selling food in a big room with hundreds of teen and low 20s guys in a place where the cheapest place to eat within a 10 minute walk is selling $15 burgers. The whole area was just too expensive. It was my 1st MLG, and I'd gladly go to any other that I had the opportunity. Great environment. Forgot to add that I think the games being played and what everyone sees should have a delay of several minutes so nothing can be tipped by a crowd or commentators. | ||
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Druzal
United States25 Posts
First of all I had a great time. Having all the players mingling with the crowd instead of in some secluded area was great. Casting was superb and the crowd was indeed epic. Now for the criticisms. Please post bracket updates in a graphic format in between games! Hell a guy with a ladder who has to update a large real life bracket has a certain amount of drama to it. Its pretty silly how un-updated the ticker at the bottom of the screen was. Usually the way I could tell the bracket info was from who was being called for the next round. Or HuK running through the crowd giving high fives. He must have 2-0'd Kiwi pretty quickly. It didn't take long at all for the crowd to reach what you called epic levels. I hope all the higher ups at MLG are beginning to realize that SC2 deserves a bit more recognition in terms of seating and priority. It was obviously silly how little seating there was and hopefully all the pictures and video will show that. Honestly though, the only thing that was truly disappointing was the tournament format. This format seems highly tuned towards the players. It's very fair. The more you win, the less you play. However, to be honest, if players want to play a tournament for themselves they can do so online on any night. MLG should be for the fans with respect and consideration for the players. Watching two two and out semi-finals is silly and anticlimactic. Please consider using the winners/loosers bracket structure on Day 1 and then moving Day 2 to a more traditional tournament bracket cumulating in Bo5 and Bo7 matches. | ||
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tyrless
United States485 Posts
2. For the love of god get some damn chairs for the spectators, I feel sorry for those people if they actually paid to sit on the floor. | ||
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GiantEnemyCrab
Canada503 Posts
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rasnj
United States1959 Posts
Some things that I would have liked: 1. Stream on 1st day could have been better. Not sure what went wrong with settings (contrast+sharpness), but something went wrong and of course there was the 2hr delay. I'm sure you know this went wrong and it's difficult to manage, but just thought I'd mention it. ESL is becoming known for never being ready on time, I hope MLG won't follow in their footsteps. 2. The interviews with e.g. Incontrol and Idra were great. Wished you would have done more of these with players. 3. There was a little too much downtime. I'm not sure why you couldn't jump into set 2 or set 3 of another series when you had 20min of downtime. I realize you need to air commercials, but when they have looped the gum, old-spice and beef jerky commercial 4 times it feels like mere filler. | ||
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Xeris
Iran17695 Posts
I got a press badge, had this whole 'orientation' thing with the lady, and then I find out that I can't even go into the players area. Its tough for me to do my job as press if I have the exact same access as a random person who walks into the event. I couldn't get good pictures of gamers playing because I was so far away, I couldn't get any game footage like I did at Raleigh - it was pretty frustrating. While I understand you don't want to clutter the player area, I think it is important for outside press to be able to do their jobs, otherwise what is the point in even having such a thing as a press badge? | ||
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Cade
Canada1420 Posts
1) Brighter stream. The stream, while the quality improved greatly from day1 to day2, still remained fairly dark and dingy. I'd like to see the brightness or what not turned up so that it appears more like what I see on my screen when I am playing. 2) Featured player sound proof booths. I know these are very expensive and not going to just appear immediately, but I think that in the future these will be a really great addition. I love to see the crowd going crazy, and I also love to see players doing awesome stuff to make them go crazy. But when the crowd betrays the players strategy, it just takes some of the awesomeness away. 3) More Player interviews! JP you do an awesome job interviewing the players, and there were a lot of good interviews on the MLG DC stream. I'd like to see even more interviews though of players before or after their matches! | ||
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Mabius
Canada323 Posts
Another issue I dunno I can't speak for the players but allowing the spectators to be within arms reach of the players or taking pictures of them so close while they are playing HAS to be distracting.. I know it's not the best solution to just hide the players from the fans as you want there to be an atmosphere of interaction and the players to give back to the fans who came to see them, but I mean its still a professional tournament you need to ensure that the players are comfortable in their surroundings to ensure a proper game is played. So other than just the physical setup of how the games were held (maybe booths if u can afford it for the big matches), and the video stream problems, it was a fairly well done event. | ||
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arioch
England403 Posts
However, as a paying customer for the HD stream I was very very upset with not only the quality of the in game stream, but also the complete lack of acknowledgement that something was wrong from both the casters and the support forum... And the fact that you were still plugging the "crystal clear 2.2 mbit" stream during the cast was, quite frankly, laughable. If the second day hadn't been as awesome as it was it really would have ruined the tournament for me... but fortunately it was and MLG DC was saved.  Sort your streaming issues out and provide some support for used DURING events - I saw one moderator post around the lines of "We are not answering any tickets until after the event as we are too busy." .. I mean seriously.. why even bother pretending to have an HD stream support forum if you are not going to provide any support during events? | ||
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Fa1nT
United States3423 Posts
2. Update brackets faster if at all possible. Those were the only complaints I had with the stream. Other than that, it was one of the best, highest quality that I have seen. Much better than GSL's stream. | ||
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Sevryn
698 Posts
also while the mothership thing was funny soundproof headphones for at least the last few games where there is only like one going on would probably be pretty big | ||
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Littlebootz
United States108 Posts
 Less downtime and updated brackets like everyone else said. <3 | ||
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OperatoR
United States6 Posts
2.Stream, Needs to be calibrated correctly and offer alot more stability. Especially for HD buyers. 3.Casting, Smoother transition into commercial breaks and more interviews with players. 4.Matches, Less down time...not all matches need to be casted, while we wait for matches to start please stream us other matches that are currently playing. ( Use a extra acc like MLG Cast #x) 5.Tournament, Bigger prizes and larger player pool to attract better competition. 6.Other, not a fan of the match delays, like when were waiting for a match and the casters drag on and on and on its too much. Also Repetitive commercials. I understand they are the sponsors but spice it up. While we wait for matches to start or end it would be good to start interviewing players about current/future patches, the tournament experience all that good stuff ect. while we wait to make it bearable. Player histories and how they performed in past events. Also add some guest players to co cast when not playing and get their pro input like halo 3 casting. hmm........oh and time management for the players, i am really disappointed on how little breaks these players get causing them to not play at the optimal level ie Select. OH AND! please update brackets LIVE! they were hours behind. and.....thats all i got for now. | ||
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Zlasher
United States9129 Posts
On October 18 2010 06:12 Xeris wrote: Going to complain about the press thing (I did it in the other thread): I got a press badge, had this whole 'orientation' thing with the lady, and then I find out that I can't even go into the players area. Its tough for me to do my job as press if I have the exact same access as a random person who walks into the event. I couldn't get good pictures of gamers playing because I was so far away, I couldn't get any game footage like I did at Raleigh - it was pretty frustrating. While I understand you don't want to clutter the player area, I think it is important for outside press to be able to do their jobs, otherwise what is the point in even having such a thing as a press badge? I agreed with Xeris and Josh Suth on the other thread and do so here too. I agree with everything Xeris has to say regarding the press pass. The only conclusion I can see on them making that restriction would be so that we don't hover over players shoulders while they play, unfortunately I'm seeing WoW players and sometimes I felt like other competitors who got in from other games jsut because they had a green bracelet on, along with JP hovering over selects shoulder. Either make it so press gets that access or make it so nobody but staff (JP and other casters etc.) can do that. | ||
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joonp
United States105 Posts
On October 18 2010 05:29 Incognetus wrote: Free stream had decent quality, wish it was higher and not octoshape. What I really want is more games streamed. What about having a few cast teams. IE Day9+JP, HD+Husky, and another one and a few different "channels" to watch different games on. With So many games going on at the same team would be nice to have more streamed and casted Also this guys idea is actually great, but I don't know how affordable it would be to hire multiple casters, and also how it would effect competition with different audiences. But watching more of the great games happening at very high levels would never be a bad thing and having options on which players you like to see is also good. | ||
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Wargizmo
1237 Posts
After Raleigh I thought the double elim/extended series was a good idea, but I've since changed my mind. After SeleCT had to play 21 games in a row I don't think it was fair on him at all, and made for a pretty horrible final as he was no doubt exhausted. Hosting the finals on a Sunday could help solve this issue but I think it goes deeper than that. For me, the extended series thing just doesn't make much sense at all, especially because if it's the final it gives the winners league guy a disadvantage (instead of getting an entire 'extra life' he only gets the extended series advantage), but if it's pre-final it gives them an advantage (extended series vs one Bo3 from scratch). This seems pretty arbitrary. Group stages one day and knockout finals the next day would make a lot more sense, everyone would play the same number of games and it's a lot easier for spectators to follow too. Also I think semis should be bo5 and finals bo7 | ||
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