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FrayzZeUsher
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States225 Posts
October 16 2010 21:14 GMT
#61
Great, i watched some of the vods from last MLG. Big improvement in quality.
vaelrock
Profile Joined October 2010
France11 Posts
October 16 2010 21:29 GMT
#62
HD does look a lot better, even if the ingame true resolution is still far from being a true 720p one.

Problem : why not reverting back to a 1.6mbps stream ? The quality will be nearly the same (ingame content is way too blury to really need that much bitrate), and i've seen multiple people stating that their connexion cannot sustain a > 2.5mbps requirement, and i am one of them.

Yesterday evening, the stream was sharpened and with too much constrast, but was at 1.6mbps as stated in the description in the hd pass page, and was playing without any lag.
Now the quality is ~ok, but i cannot watch it anymore. A 2.2mbps stream clearly requires more than 2.5 mbps (probably ~2.8 to 3.0 to have no lag at all). I'm lagging for 5-10s every 20s, or it simply freezes.

So now i'm stuck watching the sd stream, while having an hd pass.

I'm not against an increase in the stream bitrate, but be careful not to change stream settings as you wish after the event started, when you already had customers buying an hd pass with a relatively limited connexion.

MLG_Lee
Profile Joined July 2010
279 Posts
October 17 2010 00:52 GMT
#63
Hope everyone enjoyed the tournament, cast and the show. Please use this thread as a feedback thread.
Twitter: @MLGLee ( https://twitter.com/#!/MLGLee )
eNtitY~
Profile Joined January 2007
United States1293 Posts
October 17 2010 00:57 GMT
#64
After the quality was updated I noticed a major difference and it was much better to watch.

DC was GREAT!
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TaKemE
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark1045 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-17 00:59:38
October 17 2010 00:59 GMT
#65
You had some problems the first day with stream but other then that it was awesome!

I also like the new interviews thought you could have done a bit more of them.
andytb
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom180 Posts
October 17 2010 01:03 GMT
#66
Even with today's improvements the HD stream looked like it had been upsampled from a lower resolution. It was average at native resolution but looked great when resized down a bit - this was viewing through VLC. It certainly didn't reflect the absolute boatload of bandwidth being thrown at it. That said I'm sure interceptors would have looked crisp and clear compared to them turning normal streams to mush ;-)
turamn
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1374 Posts
October 17 2010 01:08 GMT
#67
Lee, as a first time purchaser of the HD stream, I will say i was a bit disappointed initially, but I give major props to MLG for upping the stream bandwidth. It was considerably higher quality and made watching the event much more enjoyable. Perhaps consider leaving it at that rate normally, or even upping it infrastructure will allow.
MLG_Lee
Profile Joined July 2010
279 Posts
October 17 2010 02:10 GMT
#68
Thanks all. Good feedback. I'll take some time digest further, so please keep it coming.

@turamn - thanks. we _DO_ listen.

@andytb - switching live is very different than VOD. There's challenges there that we're still pioneering. Some things will have to wait until 2011, but generally speaking what you said isn't quote accurate. We're native 720p all the way through, but I have to DOWN convert (it's not quite the same as sampling) to the resolution that we send out to you. Unlike normal broadcast TV, every pixel changes multiple times per second in every game we broadcast. It's challenging to say the least.
Twitter: @MLGLee ( https://twitter.com/#!/MLGLee )
Antoine
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States7481 Posts
October 17 2010 02:15 GMT
#69
lee will vods include just game start to game end or also the stuff in between? want to look for myself =P
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lowkontrast
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States855 Posts
October 17 2010 02:17 GMT
#70
I would also like to confirm that the quality was much better today (Day 2) than yesterday (Day 1), and I'm really happy that you guys fixed the problem and were very professional and kept us updated. $10 well spent.
MLG_Lee
Profile Joined July 2010
279 Posts
October 17 2010 02:20 GMT
#71
On October 17 2010 11:15 Antoine wrote:
lee will vods include just game start to game end or also the stuff in between? want to look for myself =P


VODS are commercial break to commercial break by match (so everything except the commercial break, including the out of game content).

P.S. Replays from Day 1 went up last night, and Day 2 should be up by the morning. Hey iNControl... That better? ;p
Twitter: @MLGLee ( https://twitter.com/#!/MLGLee )
Antoine
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States7481 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-17 02:27:35
October 17 2010 02:24 GMT
#72
ooh awesome, i'm going to go find myself now then!
oops that's replays not vods
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Darkstar_X
Profile Joined May 2010
United States197 Posts
October 17 2010 02:27 GMT
#73
While it might have started out a little bumpy, I really appreciate the swift response to fix it. Thanks for that.
MasterFwiffo
Profile Joined April 2010
United States97 Posts
October 17 2010 02:41 GMT
#74
I wasn't able to watch these live. Will there be VOD's, and if so, where?
Every morning we wake up and pray Oh God, Please dont let me die today, tomorrow would be SO much better!
TedJustice
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada1324 Posts
October 17 2010 02:46 GMT
#75
Stream was great on day 2. I had no complaints.
ocho
Profile Joined June 2009
United States172 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-17 02:47:51
October 17 2010 02:47 GMT
#76
On October 17 2010 11:41 MasterFwiffo wrote:
I wasn't able to watch these live. Will there be VOD's, and if so, where?


I'm also curious.
DreamScaR
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Canada2127 Posts
October 17 2010 02:54 GMT
#77
On October 17 2010 11:20 MLG_Lee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2010 11:15 Antoine wrote:
lee will vods include just game start to game end or also the stuff in between? want to look for myself =P


VODS are commercial break to commercial break by match (so everything except the commercial break, including the out of game content).

P.S. Replays from Day 1 went up last night, and Day 2 should be up by the morning. Hey iNControl... That better? ;p


I'm not sure if it would be possible at all, I love some of the commercials (the Old Spices ones are still epic).. but for those who have paid for the HD, it would be amazing if at some of the breaks were able to get some behind the scenes footage of people goofing around and just the general area.
~ Aka ItsWoodrow on Twitter
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-17 02:55:43
October 17 2010 02:55 GMT
#78
On October 17 2010 09:52 MLG_Lee wrote:
Hope everyone enjoyed the tournament, cast and the show. Please use this thread as a feedback thread.

I haven't looked too far, but is the crowd response issue going to be addressed? As we saw today, there's no way a protoss could ever go mothership without his opponent knowing, and this is kind of important to the game. Any comment?
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DreamScaR
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Canada2127 Posts
October 17 2010 03:01 GMT
#79
On October 17 2010 11:55 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2010 09:52 MLG_Lee wrote:
Hope everyone enjoyed the tournament, cast and the show. Please use this thread as a feedback thread.

I haven't looked too far, but is the crowd response issue going to be addressed? As we saw today, there's no way a protoss could ever go mothership without his opponent knowing, and this is kind of important to the game. Any comment?

You would also see (or I guess hear) the same type of thing with Nukes. I guess that's the one advantage to going Zerg, there's no "OH MY GOD" type of thing that will make people freak out.
~ Aka ItsWoodrow on Twitter
gogogadgetflow
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2583 Posts
October 17 2010 03:05 GMT
#80
On October 17 2010 11:55 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2010 09:52 MLG_Lee wrote:
Hope everyone enjoyed the tournament, cast and the show. Please use this thread as a feedback thread.

I haven't looked too far, but is the crowd response issue going to be addressed? As we saw today, there's no way a protoss could ever go mothership without his opponent knowing, and this is kind of important to the game. Any comment?


Well you already know when someone goes mothership because it lags the game upon arrival (unlike latency issues). I think some soundproof booths would be legit, however.
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