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MLG_Lee
Profile Joined July 2010
279 Posts
October 16 2010 02:25 GMT
#1
All,

Apologies for taking so long to post, been putting out some fires here at the venue on the live streaming side. We've arranged for the quality of the HD stream to be adjusted (on the fly) and increased. The total resolution we're sending out is not that much greater, but I'm sending a much higher bitrate to you all now.

MLG has posted more info here:

http://www.mlgpro.com/content/page/315565/SC2-HD-Stream-Quality-Increased-to-2-2-mb

Lee
Twitter: @MLGLee ( https://twitter.com/#!/MLGLee )
Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-16 02:29:03
October 16 2010 02:27 GMT
#2
Soo...have you actually fixed the weirdly horrendous ingame quality now?

Its been ten times worse than MLG Raleigh
"trash micro but win - its marine" MC commentary during HSC 4
iLLusive
Profile Joined March 2010
United States274 Posts
October 16 2010 02:28 GMT
#3
Thank you for listening to the issues and going above and beyond to improve the HD stream.
The art of war is simple enough. Find out where your enemy is. Get at him as soon as you can. Strike him as hard as you can, and keep moving.
townsend`
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada54 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-16 02:35:01
October 16 2010 02:33 GMT
#4
Did they fix the sharpness issue on the HD stream? I may be willing to pay for a ticket if it is fixed since I can barely see the team colors in mirror matches.

edit: the gamma and contrast is also a problem as the next poster states.
ZoW
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3983 Posts
October 16 2010 02:34 GMT
#5
i dont think the bitrate is the problem, its the contrast / gamma settings you guys have.
the courage to be a lazy bum
Accer
Profile Joined May 2010
Korea (South)319 Posts
October 16 2010 02:36 GMT
#6
Huge props for listening to the community! But just to enforce what everyone else has been saying, it's the in game quality that is horrendous, something about the contrast or sharpness or something. Out of game the quality (in HD at least) is pretty amazing.
Kr1pos
Profile Joined January 2008
Norway67 Posts
October 16 2010 02:37 GMT
#7
Just to reiterate: you need to look at the screen-capturing settings. Everything not ingame is fine, but the ingame video is way to sharp and thus looks bad.
Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
October 16 2010 02:39 GMT
#8
Your HD upgrade seems to have lagged the game.. sigh
"trash micro but win - its marine" MC commentary during HSC 4
sword_siege
Profile Joined September 2002
United States624 Posts
October 16 2010 02:47 GMT
#9
I can concur that the in game HD quality in DC is noticeably worse than Raleigh. The actual videos outside of the game are awesome so it's possible the observer's connection to the upstream video that's causing the issue.
aepal
Profile Joined May 2010
Netherlands123 Posts
October 16 2010 02:52 GMT
#10
Dear Lee,

Please try to increase the GAMMA for the observing computer at graphics settings.
To be honest your ingame stream looks low quality with a sharpen filter applied to it + too high of a contrast but when we see the casters and the players it looks very clean and sharp.

I think the main issue is with the settings of your hd encoding settings on the computer you obs with.
Increasing the bitrate did not do anything on ingame since the contrast is still way too high.
Just wanted to point out that increasing the gamma could give a better result.

Good luck with this, and thanks for the live coverage. I know how much trouble and work it takes.
thee telescopes
Profile Joined August 2010
321 Posts
October 16 2010 03:02 GMT
#11
Thanks for the update, but the bitrate was never the problem, everything outside of the game looked fantastic. In game looks awful on both the HQ and LQ streams.

Upping the bitrate has just made the HQ stream unwatchable for me (2.2mbs connection) with no increase in picture quality in game.
Klemze
Profile Joined October 2010
1 Post
October 16 2010 03:03 GMT
#12
Yeah I had the exact same problem when i plugged my computer to the HDMI port on my tv-set for the first time. I had to change the signal type to get rid of the "sharpened image"-effect that seems to be the problem.

I don't know what equipment you are using but make sure you set the correct signal type for the video equipment connected to Day9's computer.

Ps. The difference is clearly visible on the video overlays used, compared to the computer image.
449
Profile Joined October 2010
United States53 Posts
October 16 2010 03:11 GMT
#13
The bitrate was never the issue. It's the contrast that needs tweaking.
lowkontrast
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States855 Posts
October 16 2010 03:11 GMT
#14
It's definitely a sharpness problem.

It reminds me of when I first set up my HDTV and was playing around with the settings. Putting the sharpness on highest made really thick white edges around everything.
0neder
Profile Joined July 2009
United States3733 Posts
October 16 2010 03:12 GMT
#15
On October 16 2010 11:36 Accer wrote:
Huge props for listening to the community! But just to enforce what everyone else has been saying, it's the in game quality that is horrendous, something about the contrast or sharpness or something. Out of game the quality (in HD at least) is pretty amazing.

QFT, keep up the good work MLG.
eckm
Profile Joined May 2010
United States72 Posts
October 16 2010 03:15 GMT
#16
Responding to the community with a post is one thing; I wouldn't call not yet fixing the issue 'good work'.
turn on, tune in, drop out
Arco
Profile Joined September 2009
United States2090 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-16 03:17:36
October 16 2010 03:17 GMT
#17
nevermind im an idiot edit
Mato
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia412 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-16 03:20:21
October 16 2010 03:19 GMT
#18
quality is fine out of game, something is up ingame.
Mabius
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada323 Posts
October 16 2010 03:45 GMT
#19
Pretty much what Mato said.. Lee I really hope you fix this for tomorrow otherwise me and everyone else who wasted 10 dollars on "HD" will be very upset and request a refund
"Every revolution carries within it the seeds of it's own destruction.. and empires that rise will one day fall"
RoboBob
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States798 Posts
October 16 2010 03:57 GMT
#20
Personally, I think its incredible that MLG is taking action so quickly. Even if it doesn't fix the problem right away, it definitely shows that MLG cares about their views. MLG +1
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