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debasers
Profile Joined August 2010
737 Posts
February 13 2011 03:24 GMT
#661
Thing is, Ret and Morrow are just SO superior than anyone else that they were able to win it handlely. Probably HuK, was the only one who was actually better than they were.

Morrow had like 75% win rate as Terran in the past and was winning every single tournament he entered to. After he switched, he didn't had nearly as much sucess, but just because he is indeed a very solid player he is starting to have some sucess when there isn't anyone of his level playing against him.
NeWnAr
Profile Joined April 2010
Singapore231 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-13 03:33:13
February 13 2011 03:29 GMT
#662
Zerg now is like China's rich-poor gap. You have ~10 dudes with 50 BMWs nd 1.3 billion losers.


Terran is like America's economy in 2004. Lotsa middle-class, and lots of rich wall street fags.


Protoss is like the economically unattainable state of equal porportions of ppl in each level.
Live For the Swarm!
suejak
Profile Joined March 2010
Japan545 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-13 03:39:33
February 13 2011 03:29 GMT
#663
On February 13 2011 12:24 debasers wrote:

Morrow had like 75% win rate as Terran in the past and was winning every single tournament he entered to. After he switched, he didn't had nearly as much sucess, but just because he is indeed a very solid player he is starting to have some sucess when there isn't anyone of his level playing against him.

Huh?

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Morrow

IEM was his ONLY major win as terran...

Btw, the beta wins are weekly tourneys...

Seriously, this canard has gone on for so long. "Idra is just 100x better than anybody else. If the game were balanced, he would win everything." "FruitDealer is just 100x better than anybody else..." "NesTa is just 100x better..." "Ret is just 100x better..." "Dimaga is just 100x better..."

There was some background drama between MorroW and Idra before the final, Idra called MorroW out in a SC2 Beta Interview as a player who isn't "supposed to be able to beat players like Dimaga, because he's just ten times more skilled."
Are you human?
suejak
Profile Joined March 2010
Japan545 Posts
February 13 2011 03:29 GMT
#664
On February 13 2011 12:29 NeWnAr wrote:
Zerg now is like China's rich-poor gap. You have ~10 dudes with 50 BMWs nd 1.3 billion losers.

Zerg is the LEAST-played race, bro.

The LEAST.
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Consolidate
Profile Joined February 2010
United States829 Posts
February 13 2011 03:31 GMT
#665
On February 13 2011 12:17 suejak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2011 12:12 Consolidate wrote:

On February 13 2011 10:58 suejak wrote:
Idra can say anything and people will defend it to the death; it's bizarre.

Point is, Idra is still bitching that Z is weak to the point of uselessness and MorroW is winning shit. I think all us right-minded folk should take this moment to laugh at IdrA in unison. Here we go. Hahaha.


Ret, the guy who just beat Morrow, spent the better part of an hour on SOTG championing the case that zerg is underpowered.

Nestea, the best zerg in the world, has been voicing the same frustrations.

Laugh at them too.

Ain't the point, son.

Ain't the point.

The point is the word "balance".

Also bizarre that zergs keep winning these huge events (ZvZ finals...?) and we still nod our heads in unison whenever it's said that zerg is just soooo weak. So weak.


MorroW didn't win nor has he faced the caliber of competition in Korea. Ret did win and he has been bitching as much as Idra about the state of zerg.

I guess you don't really have a point then. That's okay, you can borrow mine:

At the highest levels of competitive Starcraft 2, the player consensus is that Zerg is somewhat underpowered.

Nestea>Ret==Idra>MorroW as far as clout goes.
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confusedcrib
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1307 Posts
February 13 2011 03:32 GMT
#666
This shouldn't have been bumped
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suejak
Profile Joined March 2010
Japan545 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-13 03:35:52
February 13 2011 03:33 GMT
#667
On February 13 2011 12:31 Consolidate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2011 12:17 suejak wrote:
On February 13 2011 12:12 Consolidate wrote:

On February 13 2011 10:58 suejak wrote:
Idra can say anything and people will defend it to the death; it's bizarre.

Point is, Idra is still bitching that Z is weak to the point of uselessness and MorroW is winning shit. I think all us right-minded folk should take this moment to laugh at IdrA in unison. Here we go. Hahaha.


Ret, the guy who just beat Morrow, spent the better part of an hour on SOTG championing the case that zerg is underpowered.

Nestea, the best zerg in the world, has been voicing the same frustrations.

Laugh at them too.

Ain't the point, son.

Ain't the point.

The point is the word "balance".

Also bizarre that zergs keep winning these huge events (ZvZ finals...?) and we still nod our heads in unison whenever it's said that zerg is just soooo weak. So weak.


MorroW didn't win nor has he faced the caliber of competition in Korea. Ret did win and he has been bitching as much as Idra about the state of zerg.

I guess you don't really have a point then. That's okay, you can borrow mine:

At the highest levels of competitive Starcraft 2, the player consensus is that Zerg is somewhat underpowered.

Nestea>Ret==Idra>MorroW as far as clout goes.

The point is that MorroW got #2 in a high-profile tourney attended by lotttts of good players.

When he finally does win a big tourney, I want idra to never use the word "balance" ever again, like he promised :D

Apparently the number of people who think that would be funny is around 1...
Are you human?
NeWnAr
Profile Joined April 2010
Singapore231 Posts
February 13 2011 03:34 GMT
#668
On February 13 2011 12:29 suejak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2011 12:29 NeWnAr wrote:
Zerg now is like China's rich-poor gap. You have ~10 dudes with 50 BMWs nd 1.3 billion losers.

Zerg is the LEAST-played race, bro.

The LEAST.

Porportion bro, Porportion.
Live For the Swarm!
Dubz
Profile Joined October 2010
United States242 Posts
February 13 2011 03:40 GMT
#669
What is the word "porportion" never seen that before??
" mefjupl: if this game was balanced and we would find two players with almost same skills, in mirror match there would be a draw each game"
Shana
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Indonesia1814 Posts
February 13 2011 04:19 GMT
#670
I guess he meant proportion

IdrA saved by Ret, almost losing his ability to talk about imbalance lol
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pechkin
Profile Joined August 2010
158 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-13 06:32:49
February 13 2011 06:32 GMT
#671
even if morrow wins gsl with zerg, it would be that impressive anyway, idra said that morrow cant win anything with zerg pre patch - when roaches were 3 range etc.
suejak
Profile Joined March 2010
Japan545 Posts
February 13 2011 06:44 GMT
#672
On February 13 2011 15:32 pechkin wrote:
even if morrow wins gsl with zerg, it would be that impressive anyway, idra said that morrow cant win anything with zerg pre patch - when roaches were 3 range etc.

Uh-huh.

You understand that IdrA is still saying zerg is impossible, right?
Are you human?
Gnarfle
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden170 Posts
February 13 2011 08:39 GMT
#673
hey MorroW, I think you can think of yourself as an ultralisk now :D
Fa1nT
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3423 Posts
February 13 2011 08:58 GMT
#674
On February 13 2011 15:44 suejak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2011 15:32 pechkin wrote:
even if morrow wins gsl with zerg, it would be that impressive anyway, idra said that morrow cant win anything with zerg pre patch - when roaches were 3 range etc.

Uh-huh.

You understand that IdrA is still saying zerg is impossible, right?


In korea? yes.

I
suejak
Profile Joined March 2010
Japan545 Posts
February 13 2011 09:06 GMT
#675
On February 13 2011 17:58 Fa1nT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2011 15:44 suejak wrote:
On February 13 2011 15:32 pechkin wrote:
even if morrow wins gsl with zerg, it would be that impressive anyway, idra said that morrow cant win anything with zerg pre patch - when roaches were 3 range etc.

Uh-huh.

You understand that IdrA is still saying zerg is impossible, right?


In korea? yes.

I

You people and your elaborate stipulations.

Soz, I don't got any quotes of IdrA saying, "Zerg is impossible in Korea but viable at things like Assembly where everybody is low-level."
Are you human?
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-13 09:24:43
February 13 2011 09:23 GMT
#676
On February 13 2011 12:31 Consolidate wrote:
Ret did win and he has been bitching as much as Idra about the state of zerg.


When did he bitch about it? He made an off-hand remark or two from time to time, but that hardly classifies as "as much as Idra". Idra is the only player (unless we count Artosis as well) that has been on a permanent balance crusade since beta.

Other players do mostly what players are supposed to do in the first place - just play the damn game.

On February 13 2011 12:31 Consolidate wrote:
At the highest levels of competitive Starcraft 2, the player consensus is that Zerg is somewhat underpowered.


Players will just complain out of frustration when they don't accomplish what they would have liked to. It's normal, really.

The fact, though, is that every top Zerg player has had a major tournament win both on Korean and foreign scene.

Looks perfectly fine to me.
Frozenserpent
Profile Joined September 2007
United States143 Posts
February 13 2011 09:24 GMT
#677
On February 13 2011 18:06 suejak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2011 17:58 Fa1nT wrote:
On February 13 2011 15:44 suejak wrote:
On February 13 2011 15:32 pechkin wrote:
even if morrow wins gsl with zerg, it would be that impressive anyway, idra said that morrow cant win anything with zerg pre patch - when roaches were 3 range etc.

Uh-huh.

You understand that IdrA is still saying zerg is impossible, right?


In korea? yes.

I

You people and your elaborate stipulations.

Soz, I don't got any quotes of IdrA saying, "Zerg is impossible in Korea but viable at things like Assembly where everybody is low-level."


It's kind of like me saying, "If this moron can score past a 70 on an IQ test, I'll eat my hat."

Then the aforementioned person scores a 90 on the IQ test and now people are calling me out on my quote, saying I should eat my hat. That's kind of missing the point.

I mean, why ignore the message and take words literally? It doesn't make much sense.
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
February 13 2011 09:36 GMT
#678
On February 13 2011 04:28 TheButtonmen wrote:
Hahaha I just saw the Morrow interview on the front page where he says certain spawn positions are an autoloss for zerg.

Idras point is indeed made.

He said the same thing when he played Terran tho, so uh... Surprise? -_- Nobody seriously thinks close spawn on Metal is balanced lol
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
Durn
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada360 Posts
February 13 2011 09:39 GMT
#679
As much as I respect the shit out of IdrA and his playstyle for Zerg, I hate how this community takes his word for law.
"Even if I lose 100 games, that's 100 different arrows pointing me in the wrong direction." - Sean Day[9] Plott
DT.dagger
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3 Posts
February 13 2011 09:39 GMT
#680
gratz mate
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