EPTIdras point is indeed made.
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TheButtonmen
Canada1401 Posts
Idras point is indeed made. | ||
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PlosionCornu
Italy814 Posts
He seems to hold morrow in some high regard there.... | ||
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butchji
Germany1531 Posts
On February 13 2011 04:28 TheButtonmen wrote: Hahaha I just saw the Morrow interview on the front page where he says certain spawn positions are an autoloss for zerg. Idras point is indeed made. No IdrA questioned MorroW's skill. | ||
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Gunman_csz
United Arab Emirates492 Posts
On February 13 2011 04:27 FrostedMiniWeet wrote: Keep in mind people, that Zerg has received numerous buff's since Idra made that statement. Zerg is nothing like it was in 1.0, and its actually amazing any zergs won anything in 1.0 You also forgetting the numerous nerf to terran: Tank dmg, reaper, bunker build time, depot before rax, drop ship speed, etc etc BUT we all are taking away credit away from morrow who is an A+ RTS player. so stop beating on the dead horse! I am amazed at so many Europeans, including morrow can play sc2 on 4:3 resolution, they are missing half of the screen!!! | ||
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6xy
Philippines51 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + go morrow FAIGHTING! | ||
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TheButtonmen
Canada1401 Posts
He said playing terran was artifically inflating Morrows win percentage making him look much more skilled then he was and comparing how Morrow was doing preswitch and how Morrow has done post switch (even recently) and the fact the Morrow himself has stated that as Zerg some games you just autolose due to where you spawn it would seem he was right. He has since then called Morrow one of the best non-korean zergs. | ||
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butchji
Germany1531 Posts
On February 13 2011 04:49 TheButtonmen wrote: He said playing terran was artifically inflating Morrows win percentage making him look much more skilled then he was and comparing how Morrow was doing preswitch and how Morrow has done post switch (even recently) and the fact the Morrow himself has stated that as Zerg some games you just autolose due to where you spawn it would seem he was right. He has since then called Morrow one of the best non-korean zergs. Doesn't matter - he said MorroW would be gold league even if he was playing Zerg since the beta. So him now calling MorroW one of the best non-korean zergs shows IdrA already conceded. | ||
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johlar
Sweden165 Posts
Anyone remember? :> | ||
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chonkyfire
United States451 Posts
On February 13 2011 05:01 johlar wrote: I wonder how Artosis and Idras imbalanced show will be if Morrow wins Assembly. Anyone remember? :> It's a ZvZ final O_o | ||
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I_Love_Bacon
United States5765 Posts
On February 13 2011 04:54 butchji wrote: Doesn't matter - he said MorroW would be gold league even if he was playing Zerg since the beta. So him now calling MorroW one of the best non-korean zergs shows IdrA already conceded. Not at all. If anything it has somewhat solidified IdrA's original point, which you're glazing over and instead focusing on quoting and misinterpreting a select portion of it. He did not say Morrow would remain a terrible zerg for all time, but stated at the time he'd still be gold (obviously an exaggeration, but unprovable either way). The fact that Morrow went from doing well consistently at the time to not having won anything big since is exactly what IdrA was getting at. Saying IdrA has "conceded" would imply he was proven wrong... which he couldn't be (since one was speculation), he hasn't been (since Morrow hasn't won YET), and wouldn't matter if he does win (the changes since would have altered the comment and the time it has taken would prove the point). All that being said, IdrA has since said (as in the post you quoted) that Morrow is a good player. His abilities have also been shown in other tournaments (even if not winning them), so I don't think anybody doubts Morrow's ability. The underlying theme in all of IdrA's posts was that Zerg is UP (especially at the time) and the Terran at the time had been winning tournaments based more on balance than on ability. He might have taken a shot at Morrow in the process too, but don't only read that and ignore the rest of the message. | ||
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Spidinko
Slovakia1174 Posts
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Karthane
United States1183 Posts
On February 13 2011 05:01 johlar wrote: I wonder how Artosis and Idras imbalanced show will be if Morrow wins Assembly. Anyone remember? :> Do you honestly think one tournament proves anything? Plus the show is not based on Zerg, it's based on all races. Think before you speak. | ||
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sekritzzz
1515 Posts
On February 13 2011 05:46 I_Love_Bacon wrote: Not at all. If anything it has somewhat solidified IdrA's original point, which you're glazing over and instead focusing on quoting and misinterpreting a select portion of it. He did not say Morrow would remain a terrible zerg for all time, but stated at the time he'd still be gold (obviously an exaggeration, but unprovable either way). The fact that Morrow went from doing well consistently at the time to not having won anything big since is exactly what IdrA was getting at. Saying IdrA has "conceded" would imply he was proven wrong... which he couldn't be (since one was speculation), he hasn't been (since Morrow hasn't won YET), and wouldn't matter if he does win (the changes since would have altered the comment and the time it has taken would prove the point). All that being said, IdrA has since said (as in the post you quoted) that Morrow is a good player. His abilities have also been shown in other tournaments (even if not winning them), so I don't think anybody doubts Morrow's ability. The underlying theme in all of IdrA's posts was that Zerg is UP (especially at the time) and the Terran at the time had been winning tournaments based more on balance than on ability. He might have taken a shot at Morrow in the process too, but don't only read that and ignore the rest of the message. I like how you expect someone to win big money tournaments without having ever played a race before. Up to the point of not even knowing what their key bindings are. Very valid assumption of you..........right. | ||
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I_Love_Bacon
United States5765 Posts
On February 13 2011 06:58 sekritzzz wrote: I like how you expect someone to win big money tournaments without having ever played a race before. Up to the point of not even knowing what their key bindings are. Very valid assumption of you..........right. What the shit are you smoking? Where in my post did I say, suggest, or imply that I expected Morrow, or anybody, to switch races and immediately win tournaments? + Show Spoiler + Better luck next time though Morrow, still one of the best zergs in Europe and losing to Ret is no shame, obv. | ||
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ehalf
408 Posts
BTW, looking back, blizz made a very bad adjustment to nerf reaper so hard. With the range burf of roach, reaper nerf is so unnecessary. Considering tier-1 unit using in 99.9% of games right now: zergling/roach/baneling, zealot/stalker/sentry yet Terran only use marine/marauder. Reaper become a complete joke. | ||
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coddan
Estonia890 Posts
On February 13 2011 07:16 ehalf wrote: Morrow is unbelievable good at sc2. totally beat some ppl who just sit and shit and crying for imbalance. BTW, looking back, blizz made a very bad adjustment to nerf reaper so hard. With the range burf of roach, reaper nerf is so unnecessary. Considering tier-1 unit using in 99.9% of games right now: zergling/roach/baneling, zealot/stalker/sentry yet Terran only use marine/marauder. Reaper become a complete joke. Terran doesn't need another early game option that looks the same way as another when you scout, but requires an entirely different respone. | ||
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KoshkaTV
United States430 Posts
Idra challenged him. Morrow showed he is true Gosu! | ||
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Jotoco
Brazil1342 Posts
But I REALLY REALLY hate your fans. And wish there was an ignore function on this boards so I would never see posts from half the guys posting above me. I would like you to show that you're better than these guys and understand what Idra said back then, and even more so, take that for what it was, a rage moment, and forget about it. You're man enough to do that, but most your fans are not. | ||
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Croatia7457 Posts
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Barett
Canada454 Posts
No matter what Idra said, Morrow is a great player. Ret is one of the best Zerg's in the world (besides loosing to cheese) and the series was very close. Ret just performed Roach very well, and Morrow had a hard time stopping it. It happens to the best of us. Everyone stop flaming TL so hard, especially when someone puts them self out to the community. | ||
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