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nekuodah
Profile Joined August 2010
England2409 Posts
October 06 2010 17:57 GMT
#321
Permenant switch woo, cant wait to see how you do, really nice dedication more power to you.
guitarizt
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1492 Posts
October 06 2010 17:57 GMT
#322
How much was your decision affected by the gsl?
“There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self.” - Hemingway
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Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
October 06 2010 17:58 GMT
#323
On September 30 2010 22:21 MorroW wrote:
6th October
Rating: Diamond 1390
Replay pack: none
gonna play terran fulltime for 1-3 weeks to wrap up my last going tournaments with hopefully nice results. i have decided to switch to zerg so i will stop sign up for new tournaments until i am at least 2k rating with zerg.
once i finish these ongoing tournaments i will start practice zerg with all my practice time
sry for no replay pack. will start updating this thread once im back on track with z
there is a possibility that i decide to switch back to terran once again in the future but as it is right now im pretty convinced that i want to be a zerg user


There are only 11 non-korean Zergs (and something like 20 with korea) over 2k points, compared to 28 non-korean Terrans. Not that I don't think you can make 2k+, I just think you could play tournaments much earlier than that. You may be waiting quite a while before you get 2k+ with Zerg.
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Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
October 06 2010 17:59 GMT
#324
On October 05 2010 08:21 MorroW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2010 06:45 grudgeStar wrote:
"been loving the neutral parasite to counter thor so far, i dont know why zergs thing its useless"

Who said this?
A bronze zerg?

everone who i talked to and pretty much all mediocre zerg gamers upwards. everyone on IEM seemed to agree that neutral parasite wasnt underused, it was just so bad that it wasnt worth getting.
personally i feel the best way to counter the thor hellion tank play is just by roaches lings and infestors. yep, no mutalisk :p if u spread infestors well o nthe map they neglect hellion harass just as well

Show nested quote +
On October 05 2010 07:09 noD wrote:
Hey morrow, awesome thread, could u put a very small description on the replays when u go saving them? thanks

wayy too much work, infact im gonna start updating this once every third day or so for bigger packs instead of updating it every day as i realized i only played 8~ games some days which is just not alot to watch )


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On October 05 2010 07:04 titaniumnuts wrote:
Morrow, what are your thoughts on the muta, ling baneling, composition that is found in a lot of tvz matchups, now that you've seen it from both side?

well its great vs bio play, but as soon as the terran throws in some tanks to deal with the banes i either need a more costy army or throw in infestors to beat this. but since a zerg can get 3base i still think its pretty fair game as far as early midgame goes anyway. the composition is great for nullifying the armies so its best just to use for grab many bases quickly as u will need to compensate for the gas heavy army. but later on zergs will have to mix it up ofcourse, and its not like u can muta ling baneling vs any terran army in the midgame aswell. its a nice style but zergs shouldnt feel its the only way to play at all. ive just felt so strong with roach ling infestor even vs bio


Good to see this. I have been free winning against mass thor hellion for so long with roach ling infestor and people seem to just start saying "oh well tanks can snipe them lol". Its not like infestors are bad against hellion/barracks/tanks either.
Antithesis
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1195 Posts
October 06 2010 18:17 GMT
#325
On September 30 2010 22:21 MorroW wrote:
6th October
i have decided to switch to zerg so i will stop sign up for new tournaments until i am at least 2k rating with zerg.

Awesome, gl!

Awaiting your next replay packs.
Mutation complete.
CruelZeratul
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany4588 Posts
October 06 2010 19:50 GMT
#326

there is a possibility that i decide to switch back to terran once again in the future but as it is right now im pretty convinced that i want to be a zerg user


Wow, that's suprising. I like that decision, hopefully IdrA will do what he has promised when you finally will win a tournament as Zerg
DTown
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States428 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-06 20:03:56
October 06 2010 20:02 GMT
#327
Wow, a (probable) permanent switch. Not gonna lie, I was pretty skeptical that he would actually stick with it. The swarm has gained quite a skillful player in MorroW. He did leave himself some wiggle room at the end with that disclaimer though, lol.
bech
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark162 Posts
October 06 2010 20:13 GMT
#328
Welcome brotha!
XplayN.com - Danish SC2 news and events.
ShadowReaver
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada563 Posts
October 06 2010 20:31 GMT
#329
On September 30 2010 22:21 MorroW wrote:
there is a possibility that i decide to switch back to terran once again in the future but as it is right now im pretty convinced that i want to be a zerg user


Wow, I didn't think you would ever make a full switch. Looking forward to seeing your progression in a few months.
Railgan
Profile Joined August 2010
Switzerland1507 Posts
October 06 2010 20:42 GMT
#330
it's interesting that you never stated any problems with the drone mechanic..
It's maybe just me but i struggle big time with it while most other things are quite easy to manage
Grandmaster Zerg from Switzerland!!! www.twitch.tv/railgan // www.twitter.com/railgansc // www.youtube.com/c/railgansc
SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
October 06 2010 20:45 GMT
#331
On September 30 2010 22:21 MorroW wrote:
there is a possibility that i decide to switch back to terran once again in the future but as it is right now im pretty convinced that i want to be a zerg user


Welcome to the Brood brother!!!
"LOL I have 202 supply right now (3 minutes later)..."LOL NOW I HAVE 220 SUPPLY SUP?!?!?" - Mondragon
teumas
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden280 Posts
October 06 2010 20:47 GMT
#332
For the zwarm! I'll be rooting for you Morrow, gl with the training!
s[O]rry
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada398 Posts
October 06 2010 20:51 GMT
#333
MorroW officially son of the swarm?!?!? My new hero.
Sunshine.
Pekkz
Profile Joined June 2009
Norway1505 Posts
October 06 2010 20:52 GMT
#334
Hope you can get good with zerg and compete at the top with em. Even if you dont, we still get to see less TvT in tournaments, so a win either way!
oGunDaM
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1 Post
October 06 2010 20:58 GMT
#335
Go Morrow!
i wish you best luck
ZERG FIGHTING!
bokeevboke
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Singapore1674 Posts
October 06 2010 21:03 GMT
#336
On September 30 2010 22:21 MorroW wrote:
i have decided to switch to zerg


Holy Check!!!
Its grack
Bombadur
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark10 Posts
October 06 2010 21:03 GMT
#337
I must say it is a very daring move to switch races but I'm sure you have the dedication and skill required.

I've enjoyed watching your replay packs and only have one or two things I noted. In the day6 replay pack you have a ZvT game vs. IaV (or something like that) where you do crazy good micro of your zerglings against his reaper build and end up crushing the reapers badly.

This results in him hardly having any army and you have quite a few zerglings around 40 or so. You can't break into his main but you do let him take his expansion without using putting any pressure on him. I think you could at the minimum forced him to throw down bunkers and delayed his expansion for some time. You later loose for other reasons which you probably spotted but I thought maybe you didn't spot this.

Lastly day9 just had a newbie tuesday (featuring among others the "newbie" fruitmerchant) focusing on zerg drone production which I think was great in highlighting the importance of larva as a resource. You probably know most of the stuff but maybe there is a thing or two you could find useful.

Also I have to thank you for the thread it has helped me decide to go back to playing zerg full time. I played mainly zerg in the beta but burned out due to a misconception of lack of options. (The whole I don't have any unit combo that is just a death ball, that I think is at the core of many of the complaints about the race).

I switched to playing random and found lots of pleasure in learning all the match ups and playing cooky strategies. But then I hit a new wall where I just didn't know the timings of the match ups and I don't have the time to learn all match ups with all races.

So now I'm back with zerg and playing the macro oriented style similar to yours that I enjoy very much. Nothing is sweeter than just gathering enough momentum to squash the opponents meager army after he has tried to hit you again and again.

Time Flies Death Awaits // Day[9]: "Probes are a lot like popcorn to Banshees, especially if you eat popcorn with MISSILES"
maputo
Profile Joined April 2010
United States16 Posts
October 06 2010 21:12 GMT
#338
Awesome write-up man, as a 'less-than-stellar' Zerg player I really enjoy your replays and the thought process behind them! I'm really looking forward to more.
Blerg!
Invol2ver
Profile Joined September 2010
United States330 Posts
October 06 2010 21:13 GMT
#339
This news makes me so unbelievably happy. The potential for innovation here is so high.

I can't wait to see what you can do as a polished zerg MorroW. Your control as terran was so impressive...I can't wait to see the potential for that in you as a zerg user.

good luck and I'll be rooting for you =D
Losing money is less good than making it, confirm?
GinDo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
3327 Posts
October 06 2010 21:16 GMT
#340
Sweet guess im not the only one. I've been trying to switch to Zerg because i like the fact that isnt harder.

Many people have been complaining that its too hard, but hard is fun in the long run. The reason i played Terran in BW was because it was the hardest and i wanted the satisfaction of playing and being GOOD.

Currently i feel T and P are too easy and im getting bored of playing them. People want Blizzard to make Zerg Easier.

Don't make the other races harder. Harder = more fun. Thats why BW was great.
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