EPTNew game clock feature - Page 14
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Neuuubeh
138 Posts
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Humga
Australia43 Posts
Incredibly useful. i could improve my timings in builds. Know where i should be at. Know if i'm behind. | ||
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Hellbike
39 Posts
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LLuke
Austria228 Posts
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XsebT
Denmark2980 Posts
On September 22 2010 06:34 Day[9] wrote: This seems like a completely reasonable change and I see absolutely no reason to be upset about this. You can already be really exact with the time by checking the remaining mineral/gas count on your resources. Most broodwar progamers don't do timing attacks based on food. Instead they check the mineral count at their expo or main and do "a timing push when I have 900 minerals at a mineral patch at my expo." Despite the fact that, for years, progamers talked about doing this, 99% of players still relied on food timings (ie I do a push at 77/85 food). This isn't a bad thing, but it bothers me that such players ignore the mineral/gas timings, a timing effectively equivalent to having an in-game clock. As far as I'm concerned, an in-game clock a good thing! At the very least, I don't have to do any of my goofy conversions anymore  If everything happenes exactly according to your plan, then yes, you're able to time your attack based on your mineral count. The problem is that no two games are the same, which just means it is not PERFECT/EXACT. This also means that you are unable to perfectly account for your opponent's timings, not through your mineral count nor your food count. Basically, I agree very much with Pop's arguments in this thread, but I wonna stress one. Yes, this is incredibly useful to your gameplay, since it enables you to figure out timings. But the question is not whether it's useful or not - maphack would hopefully improve your play aswell. My concern is that the game basically gets less exciting. BUT, where Pop kept saying that he is making it sound like a bigger deal than it is, I think this is a huge fucking deal! It will make the game very predictable, not only to the players, but to the viewers aswell. + Show Spoiler + | ||
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Coeus1
Finland160 Posts
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Lobotomist
United States1541 Posts
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hoovehand
United Kingdom542 Posts
this just evens up the playing field at higher level, and it does help casuals. if the game is easier to learn, why is that a bad thing? broodwar was pretty much exclusive to nerds because it was too hard to learn. also i'll add that team games saying "attack on 7min" would be more organised than "gogogogoggogggogo". | ||
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mcbrite
Germany229 Posts
Since I'm a noob it gives you a certain security knowing: "Ok, I have exactly that many seconds/minutes to prepare for the obligatory X-rush"... It also gives you passive scouting information if for some reason you couldn't/didn't get your own scout off. eg: "Ok, the Reaper-Window has passed by now, obviously he's doing something else..." For the real pros it won't make any difference anyway and I'm sure there was people in the past that used a stop-watch to do the same... So don't be a dick about it. I bet it's the EXACT same morons that used to say "Auto-mine?!?!?! WTF??? World is ending!!!!" | ||
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XsebT
Denmark2980 Posts
On September 22 2010 19:11 hoovehand wrote: what stopped people from using a 3rd party clock, or just looking at a clock on the desk? That it was a 3rd party component of the game, thus illigal - Just like map hacking. | ||
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mcbrite
Germany229 Posts
On September 22 2010 19:17 XsebT wrote: That it was a 3rd party component of the game, thus illigal - Just like map hacking. lol... You MUSTN'T own a clock in the house you plan to play SC in... | ||
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bull0563
112 Posts
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mcbrite
Germany229 Posts
I tend not to play with build orders, but rather like: "Ok, I have that and that, drone is building, supply is cool, I have 80 mineral, let's build the gas..." So it's great to have when I'm not bound by a build order... It also helps me time my expansion better... If it's past X and I haven't got an expansion up yet time to do it quick... Overall this will be HUGE!!!! Bigger than 80% of you guys can imagine... I give it 2 weeks till guys like Day[9], Husky and HD use it ROUTINELY to give certain timings and so on... Obviously supply will still be important, but that clock will become AS important as supply-number for later game.... | ||
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Mongery
892 Posts
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Woony
Germany6657 Posts
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WECKL
Sweden36 Posts
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Gyro
Norway36 Posts
On September 22 2010 19:37 Woony wrote: You could also just put a clock beside your monitor, what is all this rage about this? If you wanted a timer so desparately you could also have a timer before. Thats true, this just makes it more convenient. Game clock, APPROVED ! | ||
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dbddbddb
Singapore969 Posts
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Yenticha
257 Posts
Obviously, I will only use this clock for the time window 00:00 -> first fight/good scouting opportunity. Once you actually interact with you oppo/scout, the clock sounds kind of useless to me... Overall: useful, harmless, and probably very cheap to implement for blizzard=>awesome! | ||
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Grummler
Germany743 Posts
On September 22 2010 19:17 XsebT wrote: That it was a 3rd party component of the game, thus illigal - Just like map hacking. Thats wrong. If you want to use a clock while playing, no matter if on your desk or installed as programm on your pc, you can use it. LEGAL. Cause it does nothing with your sc2. Of course its redundant now anyway.. | ||
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