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zoLo
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States5896 Posts
September 12 2010 00:34 GMT
#101
Don't mind ArghUScaredMe since he's the same guy who has been complaining about SC2's campaign nonstop since the game's release.

Thanks for the interview Artosis and IdrA, but I wished the video was a little longer. Still, it was a cool watch. I also love the compilation of Idra quotes in the official fan club thread lol.
UbiNax
Profile Joined February 2010
Denmark381 Posts
September 12 2010 00:56 GMT
#102
great stuff
zak
Profile Joined April 2010
Korea (South)1009 Posts
September 12 2010 02:58 GMT
#103
i want a "I love IdrA" t shirt. where can i get one? =P
You know how to gain a victory, but not use it - maharbal
fiskrens
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden196 Posts
September 12 2010 03:19 GMT
#104
Somehow the sudden stare into the camera at 0:54 made me laugh
Kage
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
India788 Posts
September 12 2010 03:30 GMT
#105
Awesome ! his insights were good. Definitely looking forward to the TLO ones!
dranko
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden378 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-12 03:48:56
September 12 2010 03:48 GMT
#106
Even though I love IdrA'a plays and think he is a great player, to me, he just comes across as an arrogant bastard IRL.
biskit
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia355 Posts
September 12 2010 04:30 GMT
#107
Wooo nice one! Thank you for the interview, Artosis and IdrA.

I hope you go far in the tourney, IdrA. Gogo Zerg.
Tonyoh
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
France218 Posts
September 12 2010 04:38 GMT
#108
as a TLO fan, I will wait the TLO interview :D
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Liquid-Jinro/174837579208018?ref=ts
xtfftc
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2343 Posts
September 12 2010 05:39 GMT
#109
On September 12 2010 02:01 DarkspearTribe wrote:
your channel has too much Idra

Might be but it has to be noted that Artosis conducted this interview after we requested it. Quite a few people from the fanclub contacted me about it and it's nice to see that Artosis didn't change the questions or anything (even though some of them were already outdated).
hdkhang
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia183 Posts
September 12 2010 06:50 GMT
#110
On September 12 2010 04:50 SichuanPanda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2010 03:56 Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo wrote:
On September 11 2010 22:01 Merikh wrote:
Damn I wish someone asked why idra doesn't use nydus worms


I'll tell you, too expensive and they rely too much on your opponent doing something wrong (bad scouting / building placement for example).
If he considers Nydus probably less for All-ins but more strategic positioning.


We haven't seen Nydus worms used properly - this is why people don't use them. The proper method is to not pop one in the back of the opponent base to try and back-door them as that as you noted is easy to stop. While the Nydus is expensive to lay down I think the strength we will see from it is the same use it saw in BW - providing fast ground reinforcements in the late game. Also you CAN use them to harass the opponent, but the trick I've found is to have more than one tunnel system so you can build more than one worm at once. Build one somewhere the enemy will easily see, wait for him to come to stop then cancel that one. Meanwhile build a second one at the spot they just left to defend the first one. The goal I think with worms should be to control your opponent, keep him in his base and on his toes - not to do much physical damage. Currently 90% of games don't last long enough for it to reach a point to see Nydus worms go up. But I feel its very safe to say we will see a resurgence of their use over the course of the next year as the overall skill and knowledge base on the game increases.

I always use them late game to connect my bases together, it makes taking out one Zerg's outlying expansions next to impossible when you have two worms to pump troops out of. A tip for all - be careful about leaving troops idle inside the worms - people can come kill your Network in your main and kill all your troops. Force fields CAN stop units from exiting the worms too so be weary.


A few points.

* Units take time to pop out of a nydus - longer than they take to get back in the worm.

* I don't believe you can cancel a worm once you've placed it.

* Worms are pretty fragile despite the cost 200HP is nothing.

As for why people don't use them, it's a lot simpler than the whole "people don't know how to use them properly". The reason they don't use them is because they are finnicky things to get right, and they rely on your opponent to be more of a bad player than you are good.

A single nydus network + worm costs as much as upgrading overlord speed + transportation.
* Drone 50/0
* Network 150/200
* Worm 100/100
= Total of 300/300 --> same as overlord upgrades which can be upgraded both at the same time since chances are you will have a hatch and lair by then.

Anywhere you can sneak a worm in, you can sneak a drop in.

Due to the time it takes to unload units, Worms are more useful as a retreat mechanism than anything else. There are also smarter ways to gain map control than to rely on excessive worm usage. (I say excessive since chances are a good opponent will take out the worm first thus requiring you to rebuild it)
Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-12 07:55:04
September 12 2010 07:49 GMT
#111
I think I've watched the last 15 seconds of the video at least 20 times by now....

On September 12 2010 02:01 DarkspearTribe wrote:
your channel has too much Idra


This is pretty much true though. Personally, I can't get enough, but for the common fan, I think we might need to hold off on IdrA interviews until he wins something or loses something big.
Fa1nT
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3423 Posts
September 12 2010 08:00 GMT
#112
On September 12 2010 08:46 omnigol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2010 08:36 ArghUScaredMe wrote:
Jesus fanboism is strong in this thread. Look at the latter part of my post. How can you disagree with the way he conducts himself?

I'm blinded by my love of a nerd who made a seriously bad career choice. Although I can't forgive idra when he uses naughty words.



Did you really just say that IdrA, a 20 year old, experiencing a foreign country, making upwards of hundreds of thousands of dollars a year (if he wins), playing a video game, made a bad career choice?

corpsepose
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1678 Posts
September 12 2010 08:06 GMT
#113
On September 12 2010 12:48 dranko wrote:
Even though I love IdrA'a plays and think he is a great player, to me, he just comes across as an arrogant bastard IRL.


i wouldnt necessarily go that far - he may seem a little too self-assured but he's obviously pretty smart and opinionated. definitely a confident, effective speaker
http://www.twitch.tv/corpsep0se
cucumber
Profile Joined June 2010
United States116 Posts
September 12 2010 11:12 GMT
#114
You've been practicing with TLO. Does that mean you respect him as a player now?
Sensator
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia377 Posts
September 12 2010 11:16 GMT
#115
Haha IdrA ftw, I love how he's very precise with his answers and he doesn't second guess himself--must have something to do with how good he is.
Rabiator
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany3948 Posts
September 12 2010 12:04 GMT
#116
On September 12 2010 15:50 hdkhang wrote:
Anywhere you can sneak a worm in, you can sneak a drop in.

Well if you park an Overlord in a corner of the map you only need one of them to hide there to give vision for a Nydus in an obscure position behind the enemy lines. If you do the same with Overlord drops you need too much time and that makes you vulnerable when your army is loaded up in a bunch of them and flying around somewhere it might be spotted. A single Overlord (or a burrowed Zergling) is less likely to be found.
If you cant say what you're meaning, you can never mean what you're saying.
hdkhang
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia183 Posts
September 12 2010 13:02 GMT
#117
On September 12 2010 21:04 Rabiator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2010 15:50 hdkhang wrote:
Anywhere you can sneak a worm in, you can sneak a drop in.

Well if you park an Overlord in a corner of the map you only need one of them to hide there to give vision for a Nydus in an obscure position behind the enemy lines. If you do the same with Overlord drops you need too much time and that makes you vulnerable when your army is loaded up in a bunch of them and flying around somewhere it might be spotted. A single Overlord (or a burrowed Zergling) is less likely to be found.


That's not the point though is it?

The point is
* they both rely on your opponent having gaps in his defense/offense
* they both work better if their army is a long way away from base, but not too close to yours
* they both need setup time

That doesn't mean I think they are interchangeable, it just means that for a similar cost, when you weigh up the pros and cons of each, you won't always conclude that Nydus is the way to go, and that their lack of popularity has very little to do with people not knowing how to use Nydus properly.
chimthegrim
Profile Joined June 2010
United States31 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-12 18:55:16
September 12 2010 18:54 GMT
#118
On September 12 2010 12:48 dranko wrote:
Even though I love IdrA'a plays and think he is a great player, to me, he just comes across as an arrogant bastard IRL.


Or an anti-social nerd, who if he didn't have SC as his outlet, would be just another complete loser working at Gamestop.

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xtfftc
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2343 Posts
September 12 2010 19:08 GMT
#119
Or someone who comes to the biggest StarCraft community to call gamers "nerds"?
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