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y0su
Finland7871 Posts
On January 22 2012 22:26 Lebzetu wrote: I decided to bump this because there is an actual realistic way to stack tanks now As you can see, a terran could do that in a typical TvZ. Pretty broken and imba, blizzard needs to fix it ASAP. I'd like to see that final battle again with a few banelings... | ||
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llKenZyll
United States853 Posts
On January 22 2012 22:40 Uncultured wrote: Why does it need to be fixed? How does clumping up all your tanks actually benefit you? 3:00 in the video He loses no tanks | ||
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SpiZe
Canada3640 Posts
Then you build a couple of banelings and give a whole new meaning to the world annihilation . You can't move your marines if you want to protect your tanks and if they move, you just throw like 6 banes at them and they all die. It doesn't seem very good or game changing to me. Actually I think it sucks. | ||
p4NDemik
United States13896 Posts
Even if you spread your units tanks have a function in their AI iirc that their auto-attack targets different targets I believe. Tanks will only expect the necessary amount of shots needed to kill one unit or a group of units. This means that spreading your spread is automatically negated by the AI. You can see this by the tanks swiveling not as one but separately during your last attack with lings. If someone can confirm this though I'm basing this off of something I remember reading so I am not 100% sure this is true the way I am presenting it. Realistically a zerg would have banes so the terran could still lose the tanks if the zerg realized what was going on and acted against their usual instinct to target marines. As most zergs will have never encountered this they'd likely keep running the banes and lings towards the retreating marines and lose everything. Seems like an exploit any way you cut it. | ||
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Poopfeast
160 Posts
On January 22 2012 22:48 SpiZe wrote: Then you build a couple of banelings and give a whole new meaning to the world annihilation . You can't move your marines if you want to protect your tanks and if they move, you just throw like 6 banes at them and they all die. It doesn't seem very good or game changing to me. Actually I think it sucks. That's why you can focus fire your tanks. Remember that tanks will never overkill, so with these amounts of tanks it will be even easier and more effective to kill all the banelings. Also, the 4 highground on Shakuras next to the watchtower | ||
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llKenZyll
United States853 Posts
On January 22 2012 22:48 SpiZe wrote: Then you build a couple of banelings and give a whole new meaning to the world annihilation . You can't move your marines if you want to protect your tanks and if they move, you just throw like 6 banes at them and they all die. It doesn't seem very good or game changing to me. Actually I think it sucks. Target fire banes is a skill even gold players do. | ||
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ODKStevez
Ireland1225 Posts
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NuKedUFirst
Canada3139 Posts
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ODKStevez
Ireland1225 Posts
On January 22 2012 22:42 y0su wrote: I'd like to see that final battle again with a few banelings... Thank you, this clears it up ^^ This will surely get fixed. It feels to much like an exploit in my opinion. | ||
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Poehalcho
149 Posts
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Teim
Australia373 Posts
Also, remember he had 16 tanks for that video. | ||
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HwangjaeTerran
Finland5967 Posts
You could use it in TvP and stuff. Haven't come up with a name yet. | ||
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llKenZyll
United States853 Posts
look at this picture: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/Vrs5f.jpg) Oh yeah, to be even MORE ridiculous, theres a marauder blocking the way to the tanks. | ||
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vicml21
Canada165 Posts
EDIT: Just saw the post above me. Now I'd REALLY like to see a replay lol, especially something higher level. | ||
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PatouPower
Canada1119 Posts
It's way too unforgiving to move on the map against such a composition, especially when you know siege tanks have more range than vision. Nowadays, you make 1 mistake by moving your army around and you get 2/3 tank shots. But with that stack, you make one mistake and you insta lose a clump of units or an expensive unit such as a colossus/immortal/hts. I'm not sure how effective it would be in TvZ, but I don't know if banelings are even that good against tanks all firing at the same time. And anyways, even if it becomes kind of balanced, it's gonna be removed in the same fashion as the viking flower because units are not supposed to stack like that when you are not actively moving them around. I wouldn't mind if it required crazy micro like muta stacking, but just dropping 10 tanks in a tiny area around your third or fourth expansion and siegeing them up doesn't require that much APM... | ||
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NuKedUFirst
Canada3139 Posts
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llKenZyll
United States853 Posts
On January 22 2012 23:05 NuKedUFirst wrote: im going to try this on ladder shortly for a few games.. should be interesting for taking middle of maps, but early game I can't see this being all that great.. and in the video 16 tanks.. most I usually get is like 10 and thats late game vs a full army not 100 lings. Post a replay  | ||
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poorcloud
Singapore2748 Posts
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llKenZyll
United States853 Posts
On January 22 2012 23:10 poorcloud wrote: Um, its not really useful, 10 blings can clear 16 tanks? Looks like it will help noobs who don't control their banelings and let them run their banes into tanks instead... On January 22 2012 22:50 Unfeared wrote: That's why you can focus fire your tanks. Remember that tanks will never overkill, so with these amounts of tanks it will be even easier and more effective to kill all the banelings. Also, the 4 highground on Shakuras next to the watchtower | ||
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Jamileon
United States63 Posts
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