flying colossus bug wasn't a stacking issue. what you'd do is block off the exits to your robo with other buildings and then the colossus would pop out on the other side.

the reason flying tank works is that you can stack tanks and then if you only unsiege one of them, it gets pushed to the side because it gets freed up. if you couldn't stack tanks period, you wouldn't be able to make them fly.

yes, you could probably fix the flying bug without fixing stacking, but fixing stacking would solve both in one fell swoop.

Seems like the same bug to me. Both units are getting stuck near a cliff and a structure, and then as they are freed they start flying. The difference I think is that Blizzard made space blocked, so a unit couldn't pop out of the building at all. You should be able to do the same thing, just make it so the tank gets stuck in un-seiged rather than resorting to cliff.

Although I'd rather Blizzard just made them blow up if they stopped touching the ground.

Edit: I just saw the video

The flying bug is not really a flying bug, drone flying bug literally allowed the drone to fly, but this one is a case of laziness and not putting block tiles on the low ground. Its really the same as the worker supply/mineral trick where you can push units through buildings/destructables/mineral patches, thats used to great effect in BW and produces really interesting games and fun maps.

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How is this map not Terran imba? The way every race made expansions was they had to do a special but difficult trick to push workers through the mineral line. Any unit could be pushed through though, and sometimes Protoss would do it to sneak DT's. The technique is quite similar to tank stacking, only you didn't need dropships and you could do it with every unit.

There was also an interesting game by UpMagic who created an amazing strategy using this trick (it was a 2 rax bunker cheese through a destructible temple). Also if anyone can find the video I would be really grateful. I wanna make a thread about this tonight if i can.

Originally I thought it should be patched because people said it allows tanks to fly, but it doesn't. This should not be patched at all, it should be left as is, and map makers should just make sure the maps have block tiles or enough doodads on the low ground.

llKenZyll

United States853 Posts

January 25 2012 23:10 GMT

#242

I am pretty sure we have all seen that picture on reddit or have seen Dragon's stream lately. He abused the bug on Shakuras Plateau and I am pretty sure you can get banned from that. Joke or not, Dragon broke a rule and anyone who is abusing this bug is breaking the rules, which puts themselves at the risk of a ban.
I am not saying its a big deal that Dragon abused the bug on Shakuras, but he shouldn't have done that.

JFO

184 Posts

January 25 2012 23:18 GMT

#243

If someone cares,
I did used this a lot in 2v2, and since i dont play anymore ill tell you another good trick that has won me hundreds of 2v2 masters games.

THROW FORCEFIELD ON TOP OF PARTNER TANK. No zerglings, no zealots usefull my friends!.

FeyFey

Germany10114 Posts

January 25 2012 23:31 GMT

#244

On January 26 2012 08:10 Lebzetu wrote:
I am pretty sure we have all seen that picture on reddit or have seen Dragon's stream lately. He abused the bug on Shakuras Plateau and I am pretty sure you can get banned from that. Joke or not, Dragon broke a rule and anyone who is abusing this bug is breaking the rules, which puts themselves at the risk of a ban.
I am not saying its a big deal that Dragon abused the bug on Shakuras, but he shouldn't have done that.

as long as he reported this he is fine, unless blizzard officially announces that it is a bug. Of course there is this "don't make the game do things it isn't supposed to do" rule. But its just against people who abuse something excessive.
Right now i actually would encourage doing this once and sending it to blizzard. But by now i think they are aware of it. And will sneak fix it this thursday or the next.

MigzR

Portugal89 Posts

January 25 2012 23:34 GMT

#245

I disagree, dragon just abused the games mechanics. What I mean is that Dragon bought the game so he has the right to do whatever he wants to in the game, he has the right to use this bug as much as he has the right to build workers cause he's not using a third party program to be able to use the bug, he's just doing what the game allows him to do. If blizzard doesn't want this bug to be used then its their obligation to fix it

llKenZyll

United States853 Posts

January 26 2012 02:23 GMT

#246

On January 26 2012 08:34 MigzR wrote:

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You're not allowed to abuse anything to gain an unfair advantage in this game, especially exploits.
An exploit is something not intended for the game in any way shape or form.
So if you abuse an exploit, its against the terms of use or whatever they call it.
It's not game mechanics, its an exploit.

It even says in the ToS not to abuse an exploit, so it doesnt matter if he purchased it or not, he cant abuse the bug.
From your standpoint, you can also use hacks and cheats because you "bought the game" and you have a right to do so because of that.
That's not how it works.