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On September 02 2010 05:32 Pedo.Bear wrote:
WHO PAID EXTRA TO SPECIFICALLY WATCH THE WORLD CUP?
WHO PAID EXTRA TO SPECIFICALLY WATCH THE OLYMPICS?
not I.
The magnitude of those events are exponentially larger than the StarCraft II foreigner community. We are an extremely tiny niche community when it comes to broadcasting. Lots of people do pay extra for Boxing, MMA, American Football, Baseball, Hockey and Basketball games that are not broadcasted by their local cable service. People will pay literally hundreds of dollars for it too.
In this particular case the price does not seem to be right, however. Many of us can not afford the combined cost of the VoD and livestream or don't want to pay that much. I believe they'll find this out pretty quickly too.
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On September 02 2010 05:33 Doomrok wrote:
It's perfectly reasonable considering what it costs them to provide the stream.
$30 a season for the VOD ticket (300+ games) and $20 for a season of streaming (150+ events) seems like a good deal to me. I wish everyone freaking out about paying $30 a month would actually learn to read, go to the GOMtv site and read the details instead of sperging out.
Exactly.
Just because streaming is still in it's infancy compared to other services on our merry planet, doesn't mean it shouldn't be "exploited" as a money-maker.
Besides, money talks, and every cent poured into e-sports will contribute to it's growth.
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Someone will probably pay it and restream it, ill watch that stream.
I'm not really that desperate for sc2 coverage  theres already way too much shit to watch
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The reason the VOD ticket is OUTRAGEOUS is because it's a RENTAL! A TEMPORARY rental of 1 month worth of games for $30 is terribly overpriced. Especially since a "season" is apparently going to only be 1 month long.
You can rent a full season of a high production value HD television show for LESS than $30 on iTunes. Netflix gives you access to a monstrous SD/HD television and movie catalog for $9/month as long as you are an active subscriber. Both iTunes and Netflix let you view without commercials, but I bet Gom will be packed full of commercials.
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On September 02 2010 05:33 Doomrok wrote:
It's perfectly reasonable considering what it costs them to provide the stream.
$30 a season for the VOD ticket (300+ games) and $20 for a season of streaming (150+ events) seems like a good deal to me. I wish everyone freaking out about paying $30 a month would actually learn to read, go to the GOMtv site and read the details instead of sperging out.
300 (games) * 15(min(ish) per game) / 60 (min in an hour) = 75 hours
75 hours / 24 hours = 3.125 days of continuous gameplay.
thats AWESOME for $30 IF your INSANE or super HARDCORE
im assuming most people dont really wanna watch the unheard of people in the ro64 and ro32 (except for like idra and TLO's games and ppl that they know of) play their games.. the most interesting games are the ro8 ro4 and finals.. where the real talent is displayed.. which isnt that many games...
not everyone has the time to watch 3.125 days worth of games.... considering there are like 10 seasons a year or something... thats 31 days of games... a MONTH of just watching sc for $300.. sounds awesome... but you gotta be pretty hardcore to keep up with that... and most ppl ARE NOT hardcore as we have jobs, school, and a life to attend to...
not willing to part with three hundered of my hard earned dollars to give up a twelfth of my year to WATCH, not play.. just watch starcraft... that too sc2 not bw
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On September 02 2010 05:33 Doomrok wrote:
It's perfectly reasonable considering what it costs them to provide the stream.
$30 a season for the VOD ticket (300+ games) and $20 for a season of streaming (150+ events) seems like a good deal to me. I wish everyone freaking out about paying $30 a month would actually learn to read, go to the GOMtv site and read the details instead of sperging out.
Didn't read the site but went off the comments in this thread. If that's really the case, then that is not bad at all. Might consider purchasing now and contribute. Thank you for the heads up on that important information that most of us have overlooked.
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Even worse. $30 for 2 weeks worth of VODs, and the VODs will be taken down soon after it's over.
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1 month is a comment by some random guy.
2 weeks is in reference to when you can enter.
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Calgary26004 Posts
On September 02 2010 05:24 mmdmmd wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2010 05:22 Chill wrote:On September 02 2010 04:13 mmdmmd wrote:On September 02 2010 04:06 Chill wrote:On September 02 2010 04:01 mmdmmd wrote:On September 02 2010 03:22 Hot_Bid wrote:On September 02 2010 01:41 Nilaus wrote:
Anyone else noticed the amount of threads being closed today dealing with restreaming of this event?
I don't like the way TL is moving, by being the lapdogs of greedy organisations such as GOMTV. It seems quite ambigous to provide VODs and restreams of BW, but stomp down on any mentioning of the same measure for SC2. We close restreams for every organization that requests it, provided they own the rights to their broadcasts. We did it for IEM, MLG, and we'll do it for GOM if they request it. We allow restreams of BW because we haven't been told by OGN or MBC to take them down. Additionally, the BW streams have a free stream, it's not paid premium.
So does that mean TL.NET will not allow any stream/vod of all the major sc2 events from now on?!?! Hasn't that been the case for awhile? A single link to MLG / ESL's stream with all restreams shut down? This is sad news man, I first came TL because of the VODs. Then I came because of the streams. Sad sad sad... Why is that sad? Just watch on the official stream or request that they allow restreams. Is TL going to request restream?
I can't infer what you are asking here so I will say no.
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On September 02 2010 05:44 Zzoram wrote:Even worse. $30 for 2 weeks worth of VODs, and the VODs will be taken down soon after it's over.
That I don't get at all, why the fuck do they take the vods down?
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On September 02 2010 05:46 vyyye wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2010 05:44 Zzoram wrote:Even worse. $30 for 2 weeks worth of VODs, and the VODs will be taken down soon after it's over. That I don't get at all, why the fuck do they take the vods down?
Probably penny pinching. Trying to save up supposed server bandwidth costs or something. Maybe also to make sure that people who subscribe later rather than sooner don't get the added value of having extra stuff available. Not too sure how I feel about that though.
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On September 02 2010 05:44 Zzoram wrote:Even worse. $30 for 2 weeks worth of VODs, and the VODs will be taken down soon after it's over.
It's about 4 weeks so as many have said, a month.
Opening day is Septermber 4th and finals is October 2nd
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On September 02 2010 05:46 Chill wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2010 05:24 mmdmmd wrote:On September 02 2010 05:22 Chill wrote:On September 02 2010 04:13 mmdmmd wrote:On September 02 2010 04:06 Chill wrote:On September 02 2010 04:01 mmdmmd wrote:On September 02 2010 03:22 Hot_Bid wrote:On September 02 2010 01:41 Nilaus wrote:
Anyone else noticed the amount of threads being closed today dealing with restreaming of this event?
I don't like the way TL is moving, by being the lapdogs of greedy organisations such as GOMTV. It seems quite ambigous to provide VODs and restreams of BW, but stomp down on any mentioning of the same measure for SC2. We close restreams for every organization that requests it, provided they own the rights to their broadcasts. We did it for IEM, MLG, and we'll do it for GOM if they request it. We allow restreams of BW because we haven't been told by OGN or MBC to take them down. Additionally, the BW streams have a free stream, it's not paid premium.
So does that mean TL.NET will not allow any stream/vod of all the major sc2 events from now on?!?! Hasn't that been the case for awhile? A single link to MLG / ESL's stream with all restreams shut down? This is sad news man, I first came TL because of the VODs. Then I came because of the streams. Sad sad sad... Why is that sad? Just watch on the official stream or request that they allow restreams. Is TL going to request restream? I can't infer what you are asking here so I will say no.
He was asking whether TL would make the request for him, presumably because TL requesting something carries a lot more weight than mmdmmd requesting something.
I would imagine the answer would still be the same, however.
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There will be other tournaments to watch anyway. I wouldn't pay a dime, no f'in way man, this is pathetic and they did this with all their other series but the VODS were free in their other season. This is bullcrap you got to build the e-sport scene before you start asking for frikin' pro fighting fees like pay per view broski.
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I use Linux so It doesn't make a difference for me, I can't use the GOMTV player, I will be looking for restreams anyway. Maybe if I could get GOMTV player working with Wine or something I'd watch for Artosis and Tasteless but IDK if its worth $20 :/
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Well that sucks... so much for me looking forward to the GSL anymore, seeing as I won't even be able to watch a single game during or after they're played. It's pretty absurd that they think charging $20 a month to watch the games live (so you better not miss a game or too f'ing bad!), in a stream that they used to offer completely free..
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Hyrule19264 Posts
On September 02 2010 05:46 Chill wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2010 05:24 mmdmmd wrote:On September 02 2010 05:22 Chill wrote:On September 02 2010 04:13 mmdmmd wrote:On September 02 2010 04:06 Chill wrote:On September 02 2010 04:01 mmdmmd wrote:On September 02 2010 03:22 Hot_Bid wrote:On September 02 2010 01:41 Nilaus wrote:
Anyone else noticed the amount of threads being closed today dealing with restreaming of this event?
I don't like the way TL is moving, by being the lapdogs of greedy organisations such as GOMTV. It seems quite ambigous to provide VODs and restreams of BW, but stomp down on any mentioning of the same measure for SC2. We close restreams for every organization that requests it, provided they own the rights to their broadcasts. We did it for IEM, MLG, and we'll do it for GOM if they request it. We allow restreams of BW because we haven't been told by OGN or MBC to take them down. Additionally, the BW streams have a free stream, it's not paid premium.
So does that mean TL.NET will not allow any stream/vod of all the major sc2 events from now on?!?! Hasn't that been the case for awhile? A single link to MLG / ESL's stream with all restreams shut down? This is sad news man, I first came TL because of the VODs. Then I came because of the streams. Sad sad sad... Why is that sad? Just watch on the official stream or request that they allow restreams. Is TL going to request restream? I can't infer what you are asking here so I will say no.
I think he's asking if TL is going to (magically?) get permission to do a free restream....in which case the answer is still no.
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