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Raid
Profile Joined September 2010
United States398 Posts
September 01 2010 20:58 GMT
#301
If my iphone didn't drop and the water and I didn't have to buy parts to replace it then maybe I would pay it but I am a broke college student where every dollar counts and I will find some other way to watch it if I can.
SiguR
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada2039 Posts
September 01 2010 21:02 GMT
#302
This entire pricing model is absolutely disgusting.

How in the hell do they plan on growing the audience for this game when mildly curious outsiders have to pay 50 dollars to watch a handful of games (coincidentally, some of the most important games, similar to the playoffs/world cup).

This is moronic and greedy, similar to everything else blizzard has breathed on in the last three years.
ikkyixo
Profile Joined April 2010
United States49 Posts
September 01 2010 21:04 GMT
#303
On September 02 2010 05:50 ckw wrote:
This is bullcrap you got to build the e-sport scene before you start asking for frikin' pro fighting fees like pay per view broski.


Don't want to flame you or anything but honestly, even if the E-Sport scene built up to be something popular, people would still complain about being charged because they were used to something that was free and accessible for a certain time period. Just something I'd throw out there to think about.
InToTheWannaB
Profile Joined September 2002
United States4770 Posts
September 01 2010 21:06 GMT
#304
I always say I don't begrudge these guy a right to make a buck. I love Starcraft and want to see it do well. I'd like to see it keep growing as the worlds largest Esport. So I have no problem with them charging money for the stream. Sure I prefer if they make there money threw advertisements, but I guess GOM can't for whatever reason.

So the real question is the steam worth 50$ a month to me? As big of a Starcraft fan as I am I'd have to say no. I can watch MLG, IEM, and likely WCG one day for free and get my starcraft fix that way. Sure it sucks that I won't be seeing the worlds largest starcraft tournment, but its just not worth 300$ a year to see it when i have options. If it was closer to maybe 10$ a month I think i be much more willing.
When the spirit is not altogether slain, great loss teaches men and women to desire greatly, both for themselves and for others.
Gentso
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2218 Posts
September 01 2010 21:09 GMT
#305
On September 02 2010 05:50 ckw wrote:
There will be other tournaments to watch anyway. I wouldn't pay a dime, no f'in way man, this is pathetic and they did this with all their other series but the VODS were free in their other season. This is bullcrap you got to build the e-sport scene before you start asking for frikin' pro fighting fees like pay per view broski.


I sort of feel the same way but this is THE tournament and league. It's like all the other ones are just side shows compared to GSL. That's why I feel it's such bull. I want to a part of a big connected community, and its a shame that they're doing it!
andeh
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States904 Posts
September 01 2010 21:21 GMT
#306
What I would like to see is why they're charging so much. If the GomTV people were like, "We need to charge this much this season in order to be financially stable. Next season you will see a price drop."(or something)

I dunno, I just think the the big WHY needs to be answered.

To me, I think the reason is they need to show good profits their first season, so larger sponsors get on board. If their reason is for the greater good of sc2, I'll totally be on board. But we will probably never know.
teamsolid
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada3668 Posts
September 01 2010 21:25 GMT
#307
On September 02 2010 06:09 Gentso wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2010 05:50 ckw wrote:
There will be other tournaments to watch anyway. I wouldn't pay a dime, no f'in way man, this is pathetic and they did this with all their other series but the VODS were free in their other season. This is bullcrap you got to build the e-sport scene before you start asking for frikin' pro fighting fees like pay per view broski.


I sort of feel the same way but this is THE tournament and league. It's like all the other ones are just side shows compared to GSL. That's why I feel it's such bull. I want to a part of a big connected community, and its a shame that they're doing it!

While this might be true, 80% of the players in the GSL, I've never even heard of. Sure they might all be extremely good, but as we saw from the qualifiers, some people got through with an extremely easy bracket (e.g. even Torch qualified) while others had a much harder time. There's no guarantee that these matches will be more exciting than say IEM, which I knew at least 95% of the players there and had a free stream. Furthermore, there's absolutely no way I'll pay for a stream when the Korean streams and VODs are offered for free.
ImAbstracT
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
519 Posts
September 01 2010 21:30 GMT
#308
Everyone, just buy the 1.95 day pass on the days you want to watch. 1.95 for a full day of top quality starcraft matches is not bad at all.
"I want you to take a moment, and reflect, on how much of a failure you are" - IdrA
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
September 01 2010 21:30 GMT
#309
Kespa vs GOM. One charges you to watch, the other doesn't.
Writerptrk
fantomex
Profile Joined June 2009
United States313 Posts
September 01 2010 21:30 GMT
#310
There are too many good tournaments with free VODs and released replays. I already have more SC2 than I can possibly consume. Why would I pay for more?
Replay or GTFO
Clipped
Profile Joined August 2010
France122 Posts
September 01 2010 21:33 GMT
#311
On September 02 2010 06:30 ArvickHero wrote:
Kespa vs GOM. One charges you to watch, the other doesn't.
Where is that free "Kespa" English commented stream you're talking about ?
Or-a
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada66 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-01 21:47:00
September 01 2010 21:44 GMT
#312
On September 02 2010 06:30 fantomex wrote:
There are too many good tournaments with free VODs and released replays. I already have more SC2 than I can possibly consume. Why would I pay for more?


Because the GSL has the most money invested into it at this point and has the most outgoing income. They're setting up for a huge BW-esque scene and if you don't pay then they can't continue to do more of these sorts of tournaments.. Which for competitive scene and spectators isn't good.

On the other hand the prices are a LITTLE overpriced however I'm still willing to pay. Perhaps someone will make an event out of the spectating as not everyone is willing to pay?
Clever
groms
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1017 Posts
September 01 2010 21:45 GMT
#313
So do I understand correctly that the Korean stream will be broadcasted for free and we will have restreamers? B/C as much as I would love to listen to english commentating during the event, there is no way I will watch for that price. If the Korean stream is available I guess I know what I'll be watching...
I have a recurring dream that I'm running away from a terran player but the marauders keep slowing me down. - Artosis
Molkovien
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark59 Posts
September 01 2010 21:45 GMT
#314
I find it rather mind boggling they can not find an eu/american sponsor willing to cover their stream cost. From all tournaments we seen so far it seems sponsoring SC2 has given many more views then expected no ?
viraltouch
Profile Joined July 2010
United States299 Posts
September 01 2010 21:48 GMT
#315
so you CAN watch the korean stream for free on on game net? that would be like charging extra on cable tv for spanish audio... makes no sense
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27174 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-01 21:50:34
September 01 2010 21:49 GMT
#316
Do I think this is a great idea? Nope. I can't believe that it is 2010 and companies believe they can control the internet. What wants to be seen will be seen, and fifty bucks is stupid because there are 100 livestreams and multiple other tournaments going on for free.

But...

I am not surprised by the fee. SC2 is a niche, and like other niche events coverage is expensive. Ever try to watch professional squash? I had to buy super expensive DVDs. Look, football is free on TV because so many people watch it that high priced ads can cover the profit. When low numbers of people watch, you often have to pay more for specialty stuff.

Anyway, I would rather listen to the Korean than Tasteless and Artosis anyway.
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JinDesu
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3990 Posts
September 01 2010 21:51 GMT
#317
Someone should link this thread to their forums or something, so they can see how much money they are losing out.
Yargh
Or-a
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada66 Posts
September 01 2010 21:52 GMT
#318
On September 02 2010 06:48 viraltouch wrote:
so you CAN watch the korean stream for free on on game net? that would be like charging extra on cable tv for spanish audio... makes no sense


But I don't think you'll be able to get vod's. [Obviously someone will just save them and upload to youtube but rest assured those will be deleted soon after.]
Clever
viraltouch
Profile Joined July 2010
United States299 Posts
September 01 2010 21:57 GMT
#319
we should just start a donation pool for 50 bucks and pay for someone to stream it for everyone in this community.
see gomtv, we can get creative too.
Meta
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States6228 Posts
September 01 2010 21:58 GMT
#320
On September 02 2010 06:51 JinDesu wrote:
Someone should link this thread to their forums or something, so they can see how much money they are losing out.


The problem is, they'll see 45 people who are going to pay for the stream and think "wow, that's $900 we just made!"

All they're doing is making their tournament less popular than it otherwise could have been in countries outside korea. I mean I had doubts that I would even watch many of the games anyway considering how many tournaments are going on, but now I doubt I'll watch anything other than the finals, after they've been pirated/rereleased for torrents.
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