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Mouth
Profile Joined August 2010
United States122 Posts
August 28 2010 07:01 GMT
#101
Agree with every point in OP. I still subscribe and watch most of HDH's videos but finding myself not doing so more recently and watching today while they were on was pretty disappointing and I kept wishing for the D9JP to start back up asap.
sas01
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada303 Posts
August 28 2010 07:01 GMT
#102
I think all of them did great, maybe a few blunders by HD in one of the longer games but thats about it!
Looking forward to day 2!!!!
Hansel
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany311 Posts
August 28 2010 07:13 GMT
#103
Hd is awesome so far, havent set my mind on husky yet.
As for best commentators my vote goes to cholera,diggity & rise proof here:
http://starcraftcommentary.com/savior-vs-bisu-set-1-msl-group-a/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CV_hDyfmEw4
BamBam
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
745 Posts
August 28 2010 07:14 GMT
#104
On August 28 2010 16:00 Onlinejaguar wrote:
HD and Husky seemed fairly good to me, they are only going to get better with more experience. Obviously if you are comparing them to Day 9 its pretty unrealistic expectations for them to be on that level.



Why? Why is it so wrong to compare them to other casters? Whats keeping them from casting at the same "level" that someone else is? Way I see it, if there are better casters at a major event like MLG, then the best should be put in rather then HDH just so that they "can gain experience" when they already had quite a lot under their belt to even get them considered casting at MLG. They have no excuse.

Really, if HD had much better game sense, if Husky could keep his enthusiasm for key moments while and they both could keep a conversation going about anything even when "technical issues" arise without repeating something over and over (noting the problems they had starting one of the games), then I wouldn't mind them as much. But they cant. Whenever an oddball gets thrown at their feet they really dont know what to do, and that's what ticks me off the most.
"two is way better than twice as one" - artosis
ak1knight
Profile Joined April 2010
United States313 Posts
August 28 2010 07:17 GMT
#105
On August 28 2010 16:01 mufin wrote:
all the people saying HD doesn't know what he's talking about sorta reminds me of one of the first games HD commentated. It was a 2v2 and it was blatantly obvious that his ally was terrible yet HD kept a very patient and ignorant tone as to not disrespect him in his commentary.

http://www.youtube.com/user/HDstarcraft#p/u/332/2bLt2XbLuTc

I've seen HD play and he is really good. Having listened to his casting since he began making SC2 videos and also seeing him play really makes me think that these "ignorant" comments he makes in his commentary are made on purpose to make it simple and easy for the majority of his subscribers (non-elitists that just want to sit back and watch a game rather then think about why every little decision was made). You can still hear this kind of style in his commentary in his latest videos of Idra vs. Drewbie game where its blatantly obvious to any moron that a single 2 base terran bio-mech ball taking out 4 maxed ultralisk armies in a row from a 6 base zerg is imbalanced. Yet you will notice HD maintains his ignorance and neutrality throughout the commentary.

HD plays zerg very well (not pro obviously) so he knows alot about TvZ and probably personally agrees with all the rage people have about the MU. I don't expect him to go into in depth game analysis because his subscribers have already expressed that they like his commentating as it is. All 196,000 of them.



This. HD simplifies everything to a fault and, in turn, starts talking too fast and mashing words together or missing them altogether. For example, if a terran gets banshees, HD will go on about how good they are against ground units and will keep bringing it up every time the banshees do ANYTHING. He just needs to realize that most of his subscribers/fans aren't retarded numb-skulls and that you don't have to explain every little thing every time like we've never played the game before.
w00t
Sentient
Profile Joined April 2010
United States437 Posts
August 28 2010 07:34 GMT
#106
As I've improved at SC2, I follow HDH less and less. Day9's casts have more relevant information for me. However, for the majority of players (exceptions applying to anyone who knows of Team Liquid's existence), the Day9 style is completely inappropriate. It's too advanced, and it gets players caught up in the wrong thing. Most players don't care about the differences between a 10 gate and a 13 gate (indeed, most players probably don't even know there IS a difference). For those players, HDH is much better suited, and they will learn more from Husky and HD than they ever will from Day9.
TheFinalWord
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia790 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-28 07:45:42
August 28 2010 07:42 GMT
#107
I was very impressed by all castors especially HD and Husky. I think they did very well considering their lack of experiance. The calling units the wrong names was a tinsy issue but not worth really worrying about.

I don't know about JP though, he just didn't sound as interesting as the rest.
Spaceball
Profile Joined November 2007
United States213 Posts
August 28 2010 07:47 GMT
#108
I thought they all did a pretty good job. HD and Husky obviously are not on the level of Day9, but that's a bit of an unfair standard given Day9's history as a top player. I do think both HD and Husky are probably more suited towards play by play and that limits them as a commentary duo. JP/Day9 on the other hand have clear roles which compliment each other (JP as the play by play, Day9 as the color commentator). HD and Husky try to make up for it with more excitement, which sometimes works but other times feels contrived. I think they get criticized for the latter, and rightfully so in some cases, but I don't think its too big of an issue and doesn't detract from the cast too much. Regardless, HDH are bringing most of their 150k subscribers to the stream, which a fantastic deal for MLG from a marketing perspective and probably makes the success of SC2 at the event a forgone conclusion.
whomybuddy
Profile Joined August 2010
United States620 Posts
August 28 2010 07:49 GMT
#109
......................Husky>HD>day9. I think day9 has more exp in sc2 than husky and hd. He's a good player who making a 1h show everyday talking about strategy while husky and hd just upload great entertaining commentary giving us streamers the feeling that sc2 is not boring to watch.
Roaches all the way way way.
jhNz
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Germany2762 Posts
August 28 2010 07:52 GMT
#110
Day is an awesome commentator no doubt about that. He has strategic insight and is still able to bring a joke here and there. But what bothers me about him, is that he interprets stuff in every single move a player does even if it's something marginal like placing a supply depot somewhere in the main. From time to time I think that he should talk a bit less because some stuff is absolutely pointless. Not every depot has a deciding impact on a match.
http://twitter.com/jhNz
HaVoX
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada61 Posts
August 28 2010 07:58 GMT
#111
HD and husky are terrible, HD goes on and on about the same thing and brings stuff back up alot if said unit is doing something, Husky can be entertaining to some with his craziness and screaming while day9 is much better since he doesnt miss nearly as much and has much more strategic input, HD and Husky just have more popularity due to the HD Quality and frequent uploads, a friend of mine will only go by videos he watches of HD and Husky and credits them for everything even stuff like the 1-1-1 Terran build which is ridiculus
sup3rchan
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada127 Posts
August 28 2010 07:59 GMT
#112
I miss Cholera
simulatedvacuum
Profile Joined October 2009
United States64 Posts
August 28 2010 08:01 GMT
#113
HD and Husky should split up and do the call while more experienced players cover the color. The main problem I see with their team is that they both kind of fill the same role and so there's not really any balance. They kind of talk over each other say the same stuff.

I'm not hating on their skills - commentating on matches is difficult, and everyone talking shit should try it once and see how it goes. If HD were to find a top 20 ladder player with a good radio voice to do analysis for him it would be an awesome show.
Headshot
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1656 Posts
August 28 2010 08:03 GMT
#114
I think that all the casters did a pretty good job.
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Nanikure
Profile Joined August 2010
United States53 Posts
August 28 2010 08:04 GMT
#115
Day9 and Husky are awesome. I'm beginning to dislike HD a lot more recently, simply because of the way he speaks. In the last match they casted (Socke and Drewbie) he said "Ladies and Gentlemen!" like 15 times. It was REALLY starting to get on my nerves. It reminded me of that game during the HDH when he kept saying "That's all she wrote".
"I hate everyone and everything seems stupid to me."
blipster8
Profile Joined January 2009
United States71 Posts
August 28 2010 08:07 GMT
#116
Day and Chill are my favorite commentators by far. In my opinion, a good commentator has to be fun to listen to - but a great commentator has to also know the game extremely well. The two I mentioned are definitely interesting to listen to, and in BW they understood strategy very well (even though Chill was "only" B- or B, he a) understood way more strategy than most amateur commentators and b) knew his limits, i.e. if he wasn't sure about the strategic implications of a decision he'd defer to a more expert cocommentator if one was available).

JP is certainly fine to listen to, and he both knows some strategy and has learned when to defer in matters that're over his head. Hence I have no problem with him as a cocommentator if his partner knows what's up.

HD and Husky can only ever hope to satisfy the "fun to listen to" part, since they just don't know that much strategy. Neither has ever been anything special in either BW or SC2, and it shows when they fail to notice things that are obvious to me (C- in BW and I haven't even bought SC2 yet). It's totally fine for people like them to commentate; right now, there're way too many events for the top few commentators to cover anyway. I just find it a little strange when people compare them to someone like Day, who's providing a much different (and harder to find) service.
vyyye
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden3917 Posts
August 28 2010 08:10 GMT
#117
On August 28 2010 15:47 Oleksandr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2010 13:39 0neder wrote:
Valid comments, but go easy on them, they're not as experienced with live LANs (playing or casting) as Day9 is.

Commenting is a not gift, it's a privilege. If you can't stand up, step away.

Really now? I guess every good commentator was born a good commentator?

I'm not even a fan of Husky nor HDs style of casting but that's ridiculious.
Deadlyfish
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark1980 Posts
August 28 2010 08:17 GMT
#118
Obviously Day9 knows more about the game than both of them combined. But HD and Husky are way more entertaining, they arent always trying to be serious.

When i watch a game i get most of what is going on, i know most of the strats, i'm not looking for some super serious dude to tell me that, i just want an entertaining commentary that i relax to while watching the game.

The same thing with day9, what i like about him isnt his commentary (although it's great) it's that he is a really funny guy and entertaining to listen to.

So people "hating" on HD and Husky should realise that it isnt just about who knows more about the game. Personally i'd like to say Day9 and Husky commentate together
If wishes were horses we'd be eating steak right now.
Endorsed
Profile Joined May 2010
Netherlands1221 Posts
August 28 2010 08:21 GMT
#119
Obviously Day9 knows more about the game than both of them combined. But HD and Husky are way more entertaining, they arent always trying to be serious.


They would be entertaining if they didn't say stupid shit. 2 Gate on steppes of war not standard against Terran?
Spiffeh
Profile Joined May 2010
United States830 Posts
August 28 2010 08:24 GMT
#120
I think this is very similar to the BigT situation in that a lot of people are jealous that the new up-and-coming commentators are making the moves at the right time and gaining a lot of popularity at an astoundingly fast rate. You may not like them because they aren't what you're 'used to', but you can't knock them for capitalizing on an opportunity like that. They were smart in that regard and I know they will use those smarts to continue improving the analytical side of their casts.

No one starts out good. Everyone looks like an idiot when they try something new. It's just how it works. As a community we're supposed to be here to support them while this happens, not tear them down.

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