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ig0tfish
United States345 Posts
On August 28 2010 04:19 junemermaid wrote: Read the situation report again. Tanks still do the same amount to armored units. So it doesn't change any dynamic in TvT. At all. Whatsoever. Tanks dont 1 shot marines anymore :D nor drones | ||
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ltortoise
633 Posts
On August 28 2010 03:41 blade55555 wrote: lol I have a feeling your going to be wrong by a lot :D He may be not be wrong by a lot, but he may be wrong by a stalker! Zing. | ||
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TaKemE
Denmark1045 Posts
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
On August 28 2010 04:19 junemermaid wrote: Read the situation report again. Tanks still do the same amount to armored units. So it doesn't change any dynamic in TvT. At all. Whatsoever. Yes it does. It opens up the possibility of using marines, which were made obsolete by tanks. | ||
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HansMoleman
United States343 Posts
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Diamond
United States10796 Posts
On August 28 2010 04:18 arsenic wrote: To defend a 6/7 pool as Protoss, you just need to set up your wall on top of your ramp in a manner that fully blocks it off with two Gates or Gate and Cybernetics. Yes, this is possible even on a map such as Steppes of War and you can do it in time if you scout after Pylon. Zerglings take years to take down a building and Zealots are good against them. This is a common misconception. Your wall (and the ONLY wall u can get in time against a ling rush) is one pylon, one gateway, and one zealot. Now you have to fully wall off (which screws you), or just hope to god your probe micro is as good as Bisu's (ie: which screws you). It's a bad bad bad nerf. | ||
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LuciferSC
Canada535 Posts
On August 28 2010 04:17 opiuman wrote: I think the facepalm was that tanks do the same amount to armored meaning that tanks vs marauders and tanks would be unchanged Thank you for the insight. | ||
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TaKemE
Denmark1045 Posts
On August 28 2010 04:20 Azarkon wrote: Yes it does. It opens up the possibility of using marines, which were made obsolete by tanks. Marines are still going to be bad against tanks. | ||
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EppE
United States221 Posts
On August 28 2010 04:10 Dougz_G wrote: please someone answer this, are these going to be the only balance changes for 1.1? or are these just some of what we can expect? if it is than WOW..such a small amount =S kinda disappointed, although i do like them all. I would assume a bunch of bug fixes and if Blizzard holds true to form some ninja nerfs/buffs that they don't list. The Zealot nerf doesn't make much difference in ZvT. The Reaper nerf helps Protoss with their Stalker though. It's still sad that Protoss HAVE to tech straight to Stalker but hopefully early Reaper rush will fall out of favor with this patch... in which case the Zealot nerf may actually matter. This should make PvP more interesting and PvZ better for the Zerg. Siege Tanks getting nerfed is good. Terran still have alot of other viable units to support them so they only difference may be 1 or 2 less tanks in a push in favor of some other unit. BC's are like the GG unit, so they deserved a nerf. They really were an all around amazing unit for the price tag. The Zerg change is more or less a buff in breaking down walls and a small nerf in killing units. I'm optimistic atleast. | ||
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Jinsin5
Canada44 Posts
You could lose probably have your probes and still be in an economical advantage, anyone care to explain this? | ||
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opiuman
United States187 Posts
On August 28 2010 04:19 ig0tfish wrote: Tanks dont 1 shot marines anymore :D nor drones True but I feel like the non shotting marines might be useful if you want to either try to get a snipe in or use the marines as shields to get your tanks much closer. But with the viking spotting anyway this shouldn't really that big of a deal. It'll make a difference but I still feel like it won't be too much unless you really get marines everywhere or in extremely large numbers | ||
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
On August 28 2010 04:20 TaKemE wrote: Marines are still going to be bad against tanks. Pure marines, yes. But MMM balls should be more viable. Marauders were pretty good against Tanks to begin with. Now marines will make them even better. MMM is already a viable strategy in TvT, FYI. | ||
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Thunderflesh
United States382 Posts
On August 28 2010 03:58 stroggos wrote: heh, remember when tanks did 60 damage in beta and no one used them? funny times Haha; you're right, I almost forgot about that... | ||
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dolpiff
France300 Posts
On August 28 2010 04:19 ltortoise wrote: He may be not be wrong by a lot, but he may be wrong by a stalker! Zing. seems MLG raleigh is observing the same race distribution trend btw hope to see some tosses doing well in it | ||
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The_Pacifist
United States540 Posts
On August 28 2010 04:16 branflakes14 wrote: This thread consists of: 1. Happy Zerg players. 2. Terran players who are glad to see the addition of chat channels. 3. Protoss players in tears. I'm in group 1. My tears are finally beginning to dry. | ||
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Reason.SC2
Canada1047 Posts
Now we just need to take stim away from marauders and remove the banshee from the game hehe. Down with Terrans!!! | ||
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junemermaid
United States981 Posts
On August 28 2010 04:20 Azarkon wrote: Yes it does. It opens up the possibility of using marines, which were made obsolete by tanks. I wouldn't count on it. Just like marines are trash against colossus, marines are still trash against tanks. | ||
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TheWoodLeagueAllstar
United Kingdom617 Posts
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a176
Canada6688 Posts
ps protoss nerf is hilarious. just hilarious. | ||
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Turbo.Tactics
Germany675 Posts
On August 28 2010 04:20 EppE wrote: I would assume a bunch of bug fixes and if Blizzard holds true to form some ninja nerfs/buffs that they don't list. The Zealot nerf doesn't make much difference in ZvT. The Reaper nerf helps Protoss with their Stalker though. It's still sad that Protoss HAVE to tech straight to Stalker but hopefully early Reaper rush will fall out of favor with this patch... in which case the Zealot nerf may actually matter. This should make PvP more interesting and PvZ better for the Zerg. Siege Tanks getting nerfed is good. Terran still have alot of other viable units to support them so they only difference may be 1 or 2 less tanks in a push in favor of some other unit. BC's are like the GG unit, so they deserved a nerf. They really were an all around amazing unit for the price tag. The Zerg change is more or less a buff in breaking down walls and a small nerf in killing units. I'm optimistic atleast. I'm pretty sure the Zealot nerf "doesnt make much of a difference in ZvT"! In ZvP though.... | ||
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