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Pekkz
Norway1505 Posts
On October 18 2010 04:42 vyyye wrote: Did I hear that right.. BigT entered the room? Along with ret and Painuser. Edit: Quite sure I heard wrong, nevermind. I heard same thing. | ||
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MrSexington
United States1768 Posts
On October 18 2010 05:13 thesighter wrote: SeleCT deserves mad props for his play and determination yesterday. How do you know that he can't adapt? He plays at a level such that it wouldn't be hard for him to incorporate new strategies and builds for the future. He is undeniably one of the top 5 NA players now. In the long run, I would not be surprised if he becomes the #2 NA player after IdrA. Talking about SeleCT as a "one trick pony" sounds like sour grapes. I don't think anyone was saying he can't adapt. They were saying he has to adapt. Which, ironically, is also what you're saying. What's the issue again? | ||
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Ichabod
United States1659 Posts
I assume there won't be a show monday night  , but even if there is, it'll be well received!Edit: I really think that saying that people were 'talking shit on SeleCT' is an inaccurate judge of the conversations that were going on...nothing offensive was actually said about him, just that he will eventually have to play a different style, since MM->M will eventually be dealt with by creative players. | ||
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javy_
United States1677 Posts
edit: to the person above, like i said, i only heard people at the very end saying "yeah, his tvz is garbage/shit." like i said, i need to download the whole podcast. i just thought it was interesting how i tune in to the last 30 to 60 seconds and that is what i hear. | ||
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Devlin
Sweden91 Posts
Please?  | ||
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strongandbig
United States4858 Posts
Complexitygaming.com (which hosts the podcast) is down atm. You can get the SOTG from the itunes store though. edit: I lied, it's not coming through itunes either. Apparently itunes is trying to download the podcast from complexitygaming, so that won't help. | ||
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kariido
Saudi Arabia179 Posts
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trancey
United States430 Posts
Sorry, but not much I can do about it. | ||
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bmml
United Kingdom962 Posts
.Looking forward to it either way! | ||
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MrWindupBird
United States3 Posts
However, I would like to humbly inform you guys in broadcasting though - given that you will probably talk about Raleigh some more.... Raleigh - it rhymes with "trolley" and "volley" - it does not sound like "rally" (as in rally-car race car) - it does not rhyme with "Sally" or "valley" cary on... | ||
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Kazang
578 Posts
On October 18 2010 04:23 {88}iNcontroL wrote: You're 100% correct You are right in that he needs to adapt but to even insinuate or assume that he can't just shows ignorance. If you watch any of his games before the tournament, such as the TL Open games, he shows that he has a ton of flexibility in his builds and play. He's got a build that opens with ghosts in TvT, and can play protoss to a really high level, he does have some really obscure and different strategies. Now he's using a build than is winning 90% of the time against protoss due to his awesome control, why the hell would he change it? It's like you cannon rushing machine, it works so why not do it? It's not flashy and it's one of the the most basic things protoss can do but it works, it's how it's done not what exact build that matters. If cannon rushing worked 90% of the time in every game becasue people didn't know how to beat it then you will use it as much as SeleCT does his MMM harass. It's kind of a minor point but I think people are underestimating him due to ignorance and the fact is he wins games, no matter what build he uses. | ||
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timbo
United Kingdom70 Posts
Maybe its blizzards fault for having a strategy thats so hard to counter in TvP but who in the tournament would've changed a build thats winning them game after game against top level players. Look at is ladder stats and how he won the two TL Opens. Saying he will need to adapt is a stupid thing to say. Stupid because its so obvious its retarded. Its the same for all players and theres no reason to suggest Select doesn't adapt over any other pro player. He came 7th in Raleigh and bettered it to come 2nd in DC. If he couldn't adapt dont you think people would've figuered it out by now and he'd be losing? Guys on the podcast need to stop questioning him and accept hes easily one of the best foregin SC2 players atm. Anyways love the podcasts and the two MLG minicasts have been excellent. The arguements are pretty funny some times and its good you guys are opiniated or it'd be a pretty boring show. | ||
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Gont
Germany239 Posts
other then that: keep up the good work and thx for spending so much time entertaining us  | ||
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Mainland
Canada551 Posts
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Fake)Plants
United States373 Posts
On October 18 2010 06:37 Gont wrote: i rly like ur podcasts and i am just listening to the 2nd mini cast right now and i have to say its great and entertaining like all the other ones but i kinda dislike how u are all bashing on each other...I mean i dont know you in real life so it is rly hard for me to get if u are just kidding because u are quite good friends or if u are rly bashing on each other like crazy... other then that: keep up the good work and thx for spending so much time entertaining us I recommend not worrying about that so much. I doubt these guys would get together week after week if they truly harbored any animosity towards one another. I love this podcast so much. | ||
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Yaotzin
South Africa4280 Posts
On October 18 2010 06:37 timbo wrote: Guys on the podcast need to stop questioning him and accept hes easily one of the best foregin SC2 players atm. No he's not. He has good/abusive (don't mean that in a negative way) tvp but his tvz was risible. IdrA demolished him in an embarassing fashion. | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On October 18 2010 07:01 Yaotzin wrote: No he's not. He has good/abusive (don't mean that in a negative way) tvp but his tvz was risible. IdrA demolished him in an embarassing fashion. You realize that looking at one Bo3 and basing your conclusion off that is completely wrong. He has shown that he is top class. Doing well in many weekly cups and winning both TL Opens. This performance in MLG was merely a cherry on top proving his worth. He is easily one of the best foreign SC2 players atm. | ||
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Dreadwolf
Canada220 Posts
On October 18 2010 05:18 Pekkz wrote: Why didnt anyone try templar tech? Archons tank marauder shots really well, and you got feedback against the drops, not to mention storm is really awesome aswell. Is it a huge risk to get to it before you die ? I watched a clan war match on gomtv yesterday, Maka faced a protoss who went for templar, he was doing bio, he kept doing bio. He dominated with Marauder, ghost and medevac. Marauder just dont die to storm if they move. Maka was the best player obviously but i dont know, im not sure if templar can bring down the marauder down even on equal skill of the other guy can use ghost well. | ||
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Defacer
Canada5052 Posts
If that was LZGamer grinding his way through the loser's bracket -- which included consecutive sets against TTOne, QXC, Slush, Nony and Huk (!) -- it would be the Cinderella story of the tournament. Instead, it a story about how Select exploited a single build. I really like the SOTG podcast, but the last few are starting to feel really insular. It's one thing to bust each other's balls, but when criticizing players you obviously don't have a strong relationship with, you'd expect a bit more diplomacy and frankly, graciousness. | ||
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Defacer
Canada5052 Posts
On October 18 2010 07:01 Yaotzin wrote: No he's not. He has good/abusive (don't mean that in a negative way) tvp but his tvz was risible. IdrA demolished him in an embarassing fashion. That's really not fair. Idra destroyed EVERYONE in an embarassing fashion. I'm not saying that Select's TvZ is good, but most people's Anything v Idra is going to look weak. If anything, I took Select's comment during the game of not having Zerg's to practice against as a compliment to Idra. Because he's right. There's not a Zerg in NA that comes close to Idra's skill level. | ||
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