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On February 23 2011 18:25 jaearess wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2011 17:59 Angelbelow wrote:
Also, IdrA has been playing the game since the release of the beta, achieved many accolades and won many tournaments. If he says the game is broken, there's a good chance it is. Except that idra has complained non-stop from practically day one that the game was broken. "What would it be like if Protoss units cost money?" "I wouldn't play Terran because i have self-respect", not just recently. He was complaining WHILE he was winning everything, and continues to complain to this day.
If it was just IdrA complaining while the other Zergs happily play the race and win everything, I would agree with you. I would have to be insane or an IdrA rider to disagree with you.
But Zerg being the weaker race isnt some foreign idea thats unheard of on the professional level, Zergs in general are complaining, including the best zerg in the world Nestea. Watching the Startale player interviews by Artosis, it seems like the consensus from their players was that Zerg was the weakest and needed some help. I dont think you find many pro players disagreeing that Zerg is having a tough time right now.
I think hating on IdrA for his complaining is understandable. But it doesn't mean what hes complaining about is 100% false.
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It became painfully blatant how needed Day9 is on these casts to balance the hateorade that gets thrown around. Grack knows that his whining would get shut down fast and hard by someone with the perspective and optimism of Sean (in typical Day9 cordial fashion of course, never mean about it) so I doubt he'd go full retard like he did tonight if Day9 were present to make a response. The fact that incontrol could barely muster a limp retort is a thick line being drawn between an amateur would-be caster like himself and a pro like Day. Why would anyone care about the NASL if the "figurehead" is not bothered in calling the game broken and Blizzard incompetent.
Maybe it's time grack gg's out of SC2 and instead focuses 100% on getting laid, kids' got way too much stress bottled up after losing games for 3 years while on the b-team in Korea.
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On February 23 2011 19:45 tyrless wrote:
It became painfully blatant how needed Day9 is on these casts to balance the hateorade that gets thrown around. Grack knows that his whining would get shut down fast and hard by someone with the perspective and optimism of Sean (in typical Day9 cordial fashion of course, never mean about it) so I doubt he'd go full retard like he did tonight if Day9 were present to make a response. The fact that incontrol could barely muster a limp retort is a thick line being drawn between an amateur would-be caster like himself and a pro like Day. Why would anyone care about the NASL if the "figurehead" is not bothered in calling the game broken and Blizzard incompetent.
Maybe it's time grack gg's out of SC2 and instead focuses 100% on getting laid, kids' got way too much stress bottled up after losing games for 3 years while on the b-team in Korea.
I was going to write a big spiel about how painful that post was, but then I realized how futile the endeavour would be.
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No upload today guys? 
Oh he tweeted it can take a while. thx JP you're a hero
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On February 23 2011 19:01 Angelbelow wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2011 18:25 jaearess wrote:On February 23 2011 17:59 Angelbelow wrote:
Also, IdrA has been playing the game since the release of the beta, achieved many accolades and won many tournaments. If he says the game is broken, there's a good chance it is. Except that idra has complained non-stop from practically day one that the game was broken. "What would it be like if Protoss units cost money?" "I wouldn't play Terran because i have self-respect", not just recently. He was complaining WHILE he was winning everything, and continues to complain to this day. If it was just IdrA complaining while the other Zergs happily play the race and win everything, I would agree with you. I would have to be insane or an IdrA rider to disagree with you. But Zerg being the weaker race isnt some foreign idea thats unheard of on the professional level, Zergs in general are complaining, including the best zerg in the world Nestea. Watching the Startale player interviews by Artosis, it seems like the consensus from their players was that Zerg was the weakest and needed some help. I dont think you find many pro players disagreeing that Zerg is having a tough time right now. I think hating on IdrA for his complaining is understandable. But it doesn't mean what hes complaining about is 100% false.
But its the fact that he's complaining that really rubs people the wrong way. You can be perfectly justified in your feelings of inferiority, but to voice them in such an open forum(SotG, not TL) is just going to make some people uncomfortable.
Comparing to the korean zergs, sure they may complain just as much. But we, as foreign viewers, are not exposed to it. If Nestea or Fruitdealer went on SotG and had a show called imbalanced where they complained about zerg being weak, I don't think they would have as large of a foreign fanbase.
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On February 23 2011 19:45 tyrless wrote:
It became painfully blatant how needed Day9 is on these casts to balance the hateorade that gets thrown around. Grack knows that his whining would get shut down fast and hard by someone with the perspective and optimism of Sean (in typical Day9 cordial fashion of course, never mean about it) so I doubt he'd go full retard like he did tonight if Day9 were present to make a response. The fact that incontrol could barely muster a limp retort is a thick line being drawn between an amateur would-be caster like himself and a pro like Day. Why would anyone care about the NASL if the "figurehead" is not bothered in calling the game broken and Blizzard incompetent.
Maybe it's time grack gg's out of SC2 and instead focuses 100% on getting laid, kids' got way too much stress bottled up after losing games for 3 years while on the b-team in Korea.
Umm, you guy's see the difference between my opinion and this douchebag's right?
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holy shit 3 hours? i presume that is with pre-show
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Wow, good thing the podcast is over already.
+ Show Spoiler [GSLstuffz] +Or idra might have gone stark raving mad live on air about what just happened TvZ.
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woo finally uploaded haha
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On February 23 2011 17:25 LoLAdriankat wrote:
I really love the fact that SOTG is mostly a bunch of nerds in Skype talking to each other. It really reminds me of hanging out with my nerd friends on Ventrilo, Mumble or whatever, and I'm sure that other gamers here can totally relate. And that's not even the important part, we get truthful opinions from respected people in the scene. It'd really hurt me to see SOTG get censored hardcore and turn into a sterile and predictable faux-professional hour+ long podcast.
This is pretty much all that needs to be said in response to everyone listening to the State of The Game(!) and bitching about players venting.
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Russel from NASL joins the cast with IdrA to talk about the latest happenings in SC2.
Blogger // Preshow // blip.tv (video, audio on side)
If you're getting slow download speed, pause/start the download and you'll get 1mb in bursts, or just watch it by streaming.
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I didnt listen to the episode yet, but from the sound of it SOTG is becoming IMBALANCED: the podcast?
Maybe inviting Idra every week isnt such a great idea if this is the shitstorm that ensues.
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Is there any video of this "GSL says good bye to IdrA with slow music and stuff" you were talking about in today's show?
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On February 23 2011 20:24 itmeJP wrote:Russel from NASL joins the cast with IdrA to talk about the latest happenings in SC2. Blogger // Preshow // blip.tv (video, audio on side)If you're getting slow download speed, pause/start the download and you'll get 1mb in bursts, or just watch it by streaming.
I'm dling it from iTunes and I think it was mislabeled episode 27 instead of 28.
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On February 23 2011 20:39 enemy2010 wrote:Is there any video of this "GSL says good bye to IdrA with slow music and stuff" you were talking about in today's show?
in his fanclub,, =)
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Thanks 
