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necrosexy
Profile Joined March 2011
451 Posts
April 25 2013 19:30 GMT
#53241
On April 26 2013 03:49 Gorg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2013 03:45 necrosexy wrote:
please replace TotalBiscuit with Artosis. TB doesn't know shit about sc2.


please stop posting, forever.

very much looking forward to this. i hope for as little fluff as possible.

if u have a problem with wat i said, then say it and spare me your hollow attempt at censorship, you bore.

User was warned for this post
Klipsys
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1533 Posts
April 25 2013 19:30 GMT
#53242
On April 26 2013 04:25 itmeJP wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2013 04:07 yoyobags wrote:
hoping this wont be a complete ripoff of meta

Well, it is State of the Game after all so... kinda?



Wooow shots fired?
Hudson Valley Progamer
kafkaesque
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Germany2006 Posts
April 25 2013 19:30 GMT
#53243
On April 26 2013 03:45 necrosexy wrote:
please replace TotalBiscuit with Artosis. TB doesn't know shit about sc2.


Sorry, but I have to agree. Being one of the premier casters in the scene for more than two years now, watching a shit-ton of SC2, playing a ton as well, talking to industry-insiders and leading a large professional pro gaming team surely isn't a sufficient track-record to get into such a prestigious show.
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Klipsys
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1533 Posts
April 25 2013 19:32 GMT
#53244
On April 26 2013 04:30 kafkaesque wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2013 03:45 necrosexy wrote:
please replace TotalBiscuit with Artosis. TB doesn't know shit about sc2.


Sorry, but I have to agree. Being one of the premier casters in the scene for more than two years now, watching a shit-ton of SC2, playing a ton as well, talking to industry-insiders and leading a large professional pro gaming team surely isn't a sufficient track-record to get into such a prestigious show.


With Poe's law in full effect, should put a /s at the end so people don't mistake your (albeit obvious) sarcasm with general asshatery
Hudson Valley Progamer
Bocian
Profile Joined September 2010
Poland259 Posts
April 25 2013 19:36 GMT
#53245
On April 26 2013 03:45 necrosexy wrote:
please replace TotalBiscuit with Artosis. TB doesn't know shit about sc2.

He can't do it. Artosis started his own show (+ Catz)
Blade Fox
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States215 Posts
April 25 2013 19:36 GMT
#53246
Feel weird posting this emotional - but I hope they talk about Meta in a non-fluffy bunny way.

I've lost quite a bit of respect for Artosis as it wasn't explained more than "Contractual contradictions" unless someone can point me to where or what happened.

The innocence of the show feels kind of raped - no classic pillars like Incontrol/Nony/Day9 and the now rogue-ish Artosis.

While you're having all these polarized personalities on the show have you thought about throwing destiny on? Maybe he wouldn't fit on the show exactly since of his past with wheat but he does respect and agree with TB on a great many things.

Oh well show sounds fun tonight - once again it'd be nice if we get this fire stomped out - I know people are saying you're "okay" with it JP but a lot of the viewers felt betrayed, not sure if you saw meta's chat.

See you guys later!
Blame it on my A.D.D
kafkaesque
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Germany2006 Posts
April 25 2013 19:36 GMT
#53247
On April 26 2013 04:32 Klipsys wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2013 04:30 kafkaesque wrote:
On April 26 2013 03:45 necrosexy wrote:
please replace TotalBiscuit with Artosis. TB doesn't know shit about sc2.


Sorry, but I have to agree. Being one of the premier casters in the scene for more than two years now, watching a shit-ton of SC2, playing a ton as well, talking to industry-insiders and leading a large professional pro gaming team surely isn't a sufficient track-record to get into such a prestigious show.


With Poe's law in full effect, should put a /s at the end so people don't mistake your (albeit obvious) sarcasm with general asshatery


Good thinking.

I once got banned for jokingly saying that women in politics are weak and ineffectual and that I wouldn't want to have a political leader that is female. Albeit being German, i. e. having a female political leader and despite the sarcasm being fairly obvious (Margaret Thatcher, Catherine the Great...) people didn't spot that.
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MaestroSC
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2073 Posts
April 25 2013 19:40 GMT
#53248
On April 26 2013 04:07 yoyobags wrote:
hoping this wont be a complete ripoff of meta



i like how SotG... which has been around since the Beta... gets called a "ripoff" of other SC2 shows lol...

Like when Idra was on Inside the Game and said JP was "stealing their content and ideas"....while talking on DjWheat's own ripoff of State of the Game.


THIS JUST IN, State of the Game is the ORIGINAL show of all these spinoffs and clones that people are making now...are ripping off... even outside of SC2... like... fucking State of the League, where they literally stole the concept of the show and didnt even bother changing anything but one word of the show title... (that and SotL is TERRIBLE since their host is awkward as fuck, i tried to watch it when i was playing LoL cause i was such a fan of SotG)

I love how some newbie with 7 posts in his expansive history with esports would come to the SotG thread and act like its stealing any idea from ANY other show based around SC2, because without Jp and SotG, all these terrible shows that noone watches, wouldnt even exist.

Seriously it was itmeJP and then it was MrBitter and now we have countless other people trying to cash in on other peoples' idea... and some of their fans have the audacity to call their predecessors "ripoffs"

wow... this is why im losing faith in humanity... fml

necrosexy
Profile Joined March 2011
451 Posts
April 25 2013 19:40 GMT
#53249
On April 26 2013 04:30 Klipsys wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2013 03:45 necrosexy wrote:
please replace TotalBiscuit with Artosis. TB doesn't know shit about sc2.


Neither do you, nor do you contribute anything to the scene in general. TB and his wife have done more for SC2 and gaming in general than you could in your entire life. I'd love to hear your rationalization of why anyone should care about your ignorant opinion

did i say he doesn't contribute to the scene? no, i didn't. nice try.
u would have a point if i said I should be on the show instead, but i didn't. maybe read it again and not erronously infer things from your indelicate thinking.

Prog455
Profile Joined April 2012
Denmark970 Posts
April 25 2013 19:41 GMT
#53250
On April 26 2013 03:45 necrosexy wrote:
please replace TotalBiscuit with Artosis. TB doesn't know shit about sc2.


While i doubt that anyone would try to argue that TB compares to Artosis when it comes to game knowledge, there is no doubt that TB has more to offer than most of the guests in SotG. Since SotG is more about the community than balance now a days i think TB is a perfectly good choice. He is a team owner (well his wife is), a caster and a tournament organiser. He has a foot in each camp and it is nice to hear the opinion on someone who is as heavily involved with both Korean and foreign scene as he is.
kafkaesque
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Germany2006 Posts
April 25 2013 19:42 GMT
#53251
On April 26 2013 04:40 necrosexy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2013 04:30 Klipsys wrote:
On April 26 2013 03:45 necrosexy wrote:
please replace TotalBiscuit with Artosis. TB doesn't know shit about sc2.


Neither do you, nor do you contribute anything to the scene in general. TB and his wife have done more for SC2 and gaming in general than you could in your entire life. I'd love to hear your rationalization of why anyone should care about your ignorant opinion

did i say he doesn't contribute to the scene? no, i didn't. nice try.
u would have a point if i said I should be on the show instead, but i didn't. maybe read it again and not erronously infer things from your indelicate thinking.



You said TB doesn't know shit about SC2, which is utterly ridiculous.
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Gorg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany261 Posts
April 25 2013 19:44 GMT
#53252
On April 26 2013 04:40 MaestroSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2013 04:07 yoyobags wrote:
hoping this wont be a complete ripoff of meta


+ Show Spoiler +

i like how SotG... which has been around since the Beta... gets called a "ripoff" of other SC2 shows lol...

Like when Idra was on Inside the Game and said JP was "stealing their content and ideas"....while talking on DjWheat's own ripoff of State of the Game.


THIS JUST IN, State of the Game is the ORIGINAL show of all these spinoffs and clones that people are making now...are ripping off... even outside of SC2... like... fucking State of the League, where they literally stole the concept of the show and didnt even bother changing anything but one word of the show title... (that and SotL is TERRIBLE since their host is awkward as fuck, i tried to watch it when i was playing LoL cause i was such a fan of SotG)

I love how some newbie with 7 posts in his expansive history with esports would come to the SotG thread and act like its stealing any idea from ANY other show based around SC2, because without Jp and SotG, all these terrible shows that noone watches, wouldnt even exist.

Seriously it was itmeJP and then it was MrBitter and now we have countless other people trying to cash in on other peoples' idea... and some of their fans have the audacity to call their predecessors "ripoffs"

wow... this is why im losing faith in humanity... fml



or, you know, you could just realize that it was sarcasm?
MaestroSC
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2073 Posts
April 25 2013 19:44 GMT
#53253
On April 26 2013 04:42 kafkaesque wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2013 04:40 necrosexy wrote:
On April 26 2013 04:30 Klipsys wrote:
On April 26 2013 03:45 necrosexy wrote:
please replace TotalBiscuit with Artosis. TB doesn't know shit about sc2.


Neither do you, nor do you contribute anything to the scene in general. TB and his wife have done more for SC2 and gaming in general than you could in your entire life. I'd love to hear your rationalization of why anyone should care about your ignorant opinion

did i say he doesn't contribute to the scene? no, i didn't. nice try.
u would have a point if i said I should be on the show instead, but i didn't. maybe read it again and not erronously infer things from your indelicate thinking.



You said TB doesn't know shit about SC2, which is utterly ridiculous.


Just because he watches, casts, and makes a career revolving around SC2, and the fact that he has a Professional SC2 team... doesnt mean he knows shit about SC2.... /sarcasm
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
April 25 2013 19:44 GMT
#53254
On April 26 2013 04:30 necrosexy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2013 03:49 Gorg wrote:
On April 26 2013 03:45 necrosexy wrote:
please replace TotalBiscuit with Artosis. TB doesn't know shit about sc2.


please stop posting, forever.

very much looking forward to this. i hope for as little fluff as possible.

if u have a problem with wat i said, then say it and spare me your hollow attempt at censorship, you bore.


In response to your request I give you this thread:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=409339

And a quote from this post:

On April 23 2013 07:48 pulperi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2013 07:33 crms wrote:
On April 23 2013 07:24 pulperi wrote:
So who's gonna replace artosis on the show and why is he stepping down ? :o


is this real? I haven't been able to watch the last 2 episodes yet but can anyone confirm no more artosis? This would really suck, I could listen to artosis talk about starcraft for hourssssssss every day.




JP says Artosis wont be on the show "in the near future".


But do the information listed above, your demands for Artosis to be on the show are a bit out of touch. There was no attempt at censorship, because no one here is the government. It was more a forceful request for you to get with the times, man.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Klipsys
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1533 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-25 19:49:38
April 25 2013 19:46 GMT
#53255
On April 26 2013 04:40 necrosexy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2013 04:30 Klipsys wrote:
On April 26 2013 03:45 necrosexy wrote:
please replace TotalBiscuit with Artosis. TB doesn't know shit about sc2.


Neither do you, nor do you contribute anything to the scene in general. TB and his wife have done more for SC2 and gaming in general than you could in your entire life. I'd love to hear your rationalization of why anyone should care about your ignorant opinion

did i say he doesn't contribute to the scene? no, i didn't. nice try.
u would have a point if i said I should be on the show instead, but i didn't. maybe read it again and not erronously infer things from your indelicate thinking.




You're clueless. TB is an incredible community member. He OWNS A FUCKING PRO TEAM, and has hosted numerous events, knows everyone, and has produced massive amounts of content.You're some random forum scrub with ~50 posts. You know less about SC2 than he does. Asking to have someone on the show who has said on several occasions that he can't be on it is asinine. Especially since he just made his own show with the same premise.

Go away
Hudson Valley Progamer
necrosexy
Profile Joined March 2011
451 Posts
April 25 2013 19:56 GMT
#53256
On April 26 2013 04:30 kafkaesque wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2013 03:45 necrosexy wrote:
please replace TotalBiscuit with Artosis. TB doesn't know shit about sc2.


Sorry, but I have to agree. Being one of the premier casters in the scene for more than two years now, watching a shit-ton of SC2, playing a ton as well, talking to industry-insiders and leading a large professional pro gaming team surely isn't a sufficient track-record to get into such a prestigious show.

premier caster, lol. talk about low standards.

User was temp banned for this post.
Klipsys
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1533 Posts
April 25 2013 19:57 GMT
#53257
On April 26 2013 04:56 necrosexy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2013 04:30 kafkaesque wrote:
On April 26 2013 03:45 necrosexy wrote:
please replace TotalBiscuit with Artosis. TB doesn't know shit about sc2.


Sorry, but I have to agree. Being one of the premier casters in the scene for more than two years now, watching a shit-ton of SC2, playing a ton as well, talking to industry-insiders and leading a large professional pro gaming team surely isn't a sufficient track-record to get into such a prestigious show.

premier caster, lol. talk about low standards.



Please; I implore to you go and do better.
Hudson Valley Progamer
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
April 25 2013 20:02 GMT
#53258
On April 26 2013 04:40 MaestroSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2013 04:07 yoyobags wrote:
hoping this wont be a complete ripoff of meta



i like how SotG... which has been around since the Beta... gets called a "ripoff" of other SC2 shows lol...

Like when Idra was on Inside the Game and said JP was "stealing their content and ideas"....while talking on DjWheat's own ripoff of State of the Game.


THIS JUST IN, State of the Game is the ORIGINAL show of all these spinoffs and clones that people are making now...are ripping off... even outside of SC2... like... fucking State of the League, where they literally stole the concept of the show and didnt even bother changing anything but one word of the show title... (that and SotL is TERRIBLE since their host is awkward as fuck, i tried to watch it when i was playing LoL cause i was such a fan of SotG)

I love how some newbie with 7 posts in his expansive history with esports would come to the SotG thread and act like its stealing any idea from ANY other show based around SC2, because without Jp and SotG, all these terrible shows that noone watches, wouldnt even exist.

Seriously it was itmeJP and then it was MrBitter and now we have countless other people trying to cash in on other peoples' idea... and some of their fans have the audacity to call their predecessors "ripoffs"

wow... this is why im losing faith in humanity... fml

Hey, I like that you post that, even if it was unnecessary as a reply to a joking post - but what you say is true and it better be known.

Cool visuals and transitions? Well, I fell in love with SotG at a time when it was just an audio podcast so it didn't have video portion at all. Wasn't a problem for it to be better than pretty much any other esports shows today.
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
Klipsys
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1533 Posts
April 25 2013 20:09 GMT
#53259
I hope TB really grills the blizzard guy and gets some answers for us.
Hudson Valley Progamer
MCXD
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Australia2738 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-25 20:34:59
April 25 2013 20:34 GMT
#53260
On April 26 2013 04:40 MaestroSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2013 04:07 yoyobags wrote:
hoping this wont be a complete ripoff of meta



i like how SotG... which has been around since the Beta... gets called a "ripoff" of other SC2 shows lol...

Like when Idra was on Inside the Game and said JP was "stealing their content and ideas"....while talking on DjWheat's own ripoff of State of the Game.


THIS JUST IN, State of the Game is the ORIGINAL show of all these spinoffs and clones that people are making now...are ripping off... even outside of SC2... like... fucking State of the League, where they literally stole the concept of the show and didnt even bother changing anything but one word of the show title... (that and SotL is TERRIBLE since their host is awkward as fuck, i tried to watch it when i was playing LoL cause i was such a fan of SotG)

I love how some newbie with 7 posts in his expansive history with esports would come to the SotG thread and act like its stealing any idea from ANY other show based around SC2, because without Jp and SotG, all these terrible shows that noone watches, wouldnt even exist.

Seriously it was itmeJP and then it was MrBitter and now we have countless other people trying to cash in on other peoples' idea... and some of their fans have the audacity to call their predecessors "ripoffs"

wow... this is why im losing faith in humanity... fml



You do realize the post you were getting mad about is actually sarcastic and a joke? lol...
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