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PanN
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2828 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-01 15:59:30
October 01 2012 15:59 GMT
#49801
On October 01 2012 22:05 Fyodor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2012 01:34 Doodsmack wrote:
On September 30 2012 18:52 Fyodor wrote:
I don't even know why people are having a campfire in this thread. Find someone else to host a show with Artosis on it, it's not like JP was good for anything but being mildly organized.



Intentionally exaggerated insults designed to get your post attention and bait out an argument....well I guess you succeeded .

Cool, assume my motives are bad when you have no information on who I am. Real winner of a post.

Again, I just think JP is a bad host and personality and I want Artosis to guest on another show rather than SotG rebooting. I don't mean to keep piling on but you're unfairly accusing me so it's entirely your fault if I have to re-state it.


I think its really cute of you to get mad when someone oversimplifies you based on little information, yet you did the exact same thing to JP.

Cute.
We have multiple brackets generated in advance. Relax . (Kennigit) I just simply do not understand how it can be the time to play can be 22nd at 9:30 pm PST / midnight the 23rd at the same time. (GGzerg)
Aunvilgod
Profile Joined December 2011
2653 Posts
October 01 2012 16:07 GMT
#49802
Soon is over. SotG was awesome and I am not sure how JP wants to support himself with Real Talk or the News... He really should start again.
ilovegroov | Blizzards mapmaker(s?) suck ass | #1 Protoss hater
jax1492
Profile Joined November 2009
United States1632 Posts
October 01 2012 17:07 GMT
#49803
On October 02 2012 01:07 Aunvilgod wrote:
Soon is over. SotG was awesome and I am not sure how JP wants to support himself with Real Talk or the News... He really should start again.


He clearly does OK with out sotg, he said in his last blog on his channel that its coming back, why can't you just wait? give the guy some time.
Fyodor
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada971 Posts
October 01 2012 17:27 GMT
#49804
On October 02 2012 00:59 PanN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2012 22:05 Fyodor wrote:
On October 01 2012 01:34 Doodsmack wrote:
On September 30 2012 18:52 Fyodor wrote:
I don't even know why people are having a campfire in this thread. Find someone else to host a show with Artosis on it, it's not like JP was good for anything but being mildly organized.



Intentionally exaggerated insults designed to get your post attention and bait out an argument....well I guess you succeeded .

Cool, assume my motives are bad when you have no information on who I am. Real winner of a post.

Again, I just think JP is a bad host and personality and I want Artosis to guest on another show rather than SotG rebooting. I don't mean to keep piling on but you're unfairly accusing me so it's entirely your fault if I have to re-state it.


I think its really cute of you to get mad when someone oversimplifies you based on little information, yet you did the exact same thing to JP.

Cute.

No. There's a difference between stating my opinion on the value of someone and committing an obvious logical fallacy.

He did not "oversimplify" me, he assumed something about what I said that was unfounded and untrue.
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FuGGu
Profile Joined March 2012
United States176 Posts
October 01 2012 17:38 GMT
#49805
On September 30 2012 19:12 Moochlol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2012 18:52 Fyodor wrote:
I don't even know why people are having a campfire in this thread. Find someone else to host a show with Artosis on it, it's not like JP was good for anything but being mildly organized.



Wow, this post makes me fucking sick.


While JP does deserve a spot on State of the Game, I actually do feel like JP needs to revise the way he acts and does some stuff. I feel like he's always addressing criticism (which is bad idea to start with), and when he does address it he takes on this hyper defensive "it's the communities' fault" attitude. I like JP ALOT and I believe he's done spectacular things for SC2, but the way he references and talks about the community (the people who support him) doesn't really sit right with me...
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
October 01 2012 17:52 GMT
#49806
On October 02 2012 02:27 Fyodor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2012 00:59 PanN wrote:
On October 01 2012 22:05 Fyodor wrote:
On October 01 2012 01:34 Doodsmack wrote:
On September 30 2012 18:52 Fyodor wrote:
I don't even know why people are having a campfire in this thread. Find someone else to host a show with Artosis on it, it's not like JP was good for anything but being mildly organized.



Intentionally exaggerated insults designed to get your post attention and bait out an argument....well I guess you succeeded .

Cool, assume my motives are bad when you have no information on who I am. Real winner of a post.

Again, I just think JP is a bad host and personality and I want Artosis to guest on another show rather than SotG rebooting. I don't mean to keep piling on but you're unfairly accusing me so it's entirely your fault if I have to re-state it.


I think its really cute of you to get mad when someone oversimplifies you based on little information, yet you did the exact same thing to JP.

Cute.

No. There's a difference between stating my opinion on the value of someone and committing an obvious logical fallacy.

He did not "oversimplify" me, he assumed something about what I said that was unfounded and untrue.


And how would you rate the assumption that jp is "not good for anything but being organized" on the truth scale? That exaggeration diminishes the legitimacy of your supposedly reasonable "statement of opinion". So you really shouldn't be surprised when someone accuses you of seeking attention, especially when you know that jp reads this thread. It's just the type of unconstructive "feedback" that has been established time and time again to discourage public figures in this scene. If you had any interest in a discussion rather than a one-off insult, you wouldn't have said that. So yes, your true motives were revealed .
Fyodor
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada971 Posts
October 01 2012 19:20 GMT
#49807
On October 02 2012 02:52 Doodsmack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2012 02:27 Fyodor wrote:
On October 02 2012 00:59 PanN wrote:
On October 01 2012 22:05 Fyodor wrote:
On October 01 2012 01:34 Doodsmack wrote:
On September 30 2012 18:52 Fyodor wrote:
I don't even know why people are having a campfire in this thread. Find someone else to host a show with Artosis on it, it's not like JP was good for anything but being mildly organized.



Intentionally exaggerated insults designed to get your post attention and bait out an argument....well I guess you succeeded .

Cool, assume my motives are bad when you have no information on who I am. Real winner of a post.

Again, I just think JP is a bad host and personality and I want Artosis to guest on another show rather than SotG rebooting. I don't mean to keep piling on but you're unfairly accusing me so it's entirely your fault if I have to re-state it.


I think its really cute of you to get mad when someone oversimplifies you based on little information, yet you did the exact same thing to JP.

Cute.

No. There's a difference between stating my opinion on the value of someone and committing an obvious logical fallacy.

He did not "oversimplify" me, he assumed something about what I said that was unfounded and untrue.


And how would you rate the assumption that jp is "not good for anything but being organized" on the truth scale? That exaggeration diminishes the legitimacy of your supposedly reasonable "statement of opinion". So you really shouldn't be surprised when someone accuses you of seeking attention, especially when you know that jp reads this thread. It's just the type of unconstructive "feedback" that has been established time and time again to discourage public figures in this scene. If you had any interest in a discussion rather than a one-off insult, you wouldn't have said that. So yes, your true motives were revealed .


I read this thread and three people took a shit on me for posting my opinion, so what gives? Not trying to give JP any feedback, he probably already has more than he cares to have anyways. I'm encouraging someone else to pick up the slack so we can move on with things instead of having a campfire in this sorry thread.

And I also stated that I fully liked and supported incontrol, Wheat and Artosis so don't give me crap about discouraging public figures just because I don't really like JP as a host.

Anyway, to answer your question, "not good for anything but being organized" doesn't rank on the truth scale because it is my OPINION. That's all it is, no ulterior motives, no games.
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AngelusDeLetum
Profile Joined April 2010
United States98 Posts
October 02 2012 03:18 GMT
#49808
JP, you are the fucking man. Please bring the show back asap. Unfortunately the sc2 scene is not the same without this show!
Ercster
Profile Joined August 2011
United States603 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-04 00:15:09
October 04 2012 00:13 GMT
#49809
On October 02 2012 04:20 Fyodor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2012 02:52 Doodsmack wrote:
On October 02 2012 02:27 Fyodor wrote:
On October 02 2012 00:59 PanN wrote:
On October 01 2012 22:05 Fyodor wrote:
On October 01 2012 01:34 Doodsmack wrote:
On September 30 2012 18:52 Fyodor wrote:
I don't even know why people are having a campfire in this thread. Find someone else to host a show with Artosis on it, it's not like JP was good for anything but being mildly organized.



Intentionally exaggerated insults designed to get your post attention and bait out an argument....well I guess you succeeded .

Cool, assume my motives are bad when you have no information on who I am. Real winner of a post.

Again, I just think JP is a bad host and personality and I want Artosis to guest on another show rather than SotG rebooting. I don't mean to keep piling on but you're unfairly accusing me so it's entirely your fault if I have to re-state it.


I think its really cute of you to get mad when someone oversimplifies you based on little information, yet you did the exact same thing to JP.

Cute.

No. There's a difference between stating my opinion on the value of someone and committing an obvious logical fallacy.

He did not "oversimplify" me, he assumed something about what I said that was unfounded and untrue.


And how would you rate the assumption that jp is "not good for anything but being organized" on the truth scale? That exaggeration diminishes the legitimacy of your supposedly reasonable "statement of opinion". So you really shouldn't be surprised when someone accuses you of seeking attention, especially when you know that jp reads this thread. It's just the type of unconstructive "feedback" that has been established time and time again to discourage public figures in this scene. If you had any interest in a discussion rather than a one-off insult, you wouldn't have said that. So yes, your true motives were revealed .


I read this thread and three people took a shit on me for posting my opinion, so what gives? Not trying to give JP any feedback, he probably already has more than he cares to have anyways. I'm encouraging someone else to pick up the slack so we can move on with things instead of having a campfire in this sorry thread.

And I also stated that I fully liked and supported incontrol, Wheat and Artosis so don't give me crap about discouraging public figures just because I don't really like JP as a host.

Anyway, to answer your question, "not good for anything but being organized" doesn't rank on the truth scale because it is my OPINION. That's all it is, no ulterior motives, no games.

Yet you didn't make that clear in your original post. " it's not like JP was good for anything but being mildly organized" is not an opinion, that's being presented as fact.
“The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it.” -Neil deGrasse Tyson
Incidious
Profile Joined July 2011
14 Posts
October 04 2012 12:43 GMT
#49810
Hmm I miss this show quite a bit. The last few months of its run were kind of broken up, with main pillars leaving and coming back unexpectedly or spontaneously, and the show airing far from consistently.

I understand that when someone's pastime or job incorporates as much feedback and direct criticism as JP's when he undertakes hosting this show, it can be difficult to break away cleanly without upsetting a lot of people; that's just the nature of the beast. He has my full support for whatever he chooses to do.

The only beef I can say that I have with this hiatus is that during the last few weeks/months of this show there were all these super hyped up announcements made by JP on the show, about how the show would be on at "110%" and how there would be a lot more consistency to the airing, etc. and in retrospect, all the PAX excitement and the announcements accumulated into me sitting here now feeling like I was BS'd. I can only imagine the complexities that go into planning a show like this in far advance, but if the nature of it is so wavering and unpredictable, maybe those announcements should not have been made. It's unfair and childish to be all butt-hurt though, because we probably don't have all the facts, which is why I don't make a big deal of it.

I'll get over it. Since I don't expect this show to be up consistently for a while, if at all, I do hope that JP finds something new, which may or may not make as many heads turn with interest as SotG did, but keeps him enjoying his career to the fullest.
Chriscras
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2812 Posts
October 04 2012 17:24 GMT
#49811
I wish Nony was around to talk about Liquid'Sea
"En taro adun, Executor."
Sceptre
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada130 Posts
October 04 2012 17:26 GMT
#49812
It really was amazing how much this show added to the narrative of all the tournaments, real shame that it's gone.
Ah, go Puck yourself.
Chriscras
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2812 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-04 17:41:15
October 04 2012 17:40 GMT
#49813
I think JP likes torturing us T-T

"En taro adun, Executor."
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-04 18:02:25
October 04 2012 17:50 GMT
#49814
On October 05 2012 02:24 Chriscras wrote:
I wish Nony was around to talk about Liquid'Sea

lol this is the first i heard of it. news from the sotg thread gr9

usually there is a thread about new players but not this time
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
Scootaloo
Profile Joined January 2012
655 Posts
October 04 2012 18:09 GMT
#49815
On October 05 2012 02:40 Chriscras wrote:
I think JP likes torturing us T-T

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vn7RzLrqie8


I thought the whole "And thursday... (oh shit can't mention SotG) Friday-" bit was kinda hilarious.

Seriously though, this whole hiatus for increased professionality is getting a bit rediculous, especially when people did not ask for any more professionality, just consistent shows, which is something ItG also get's when they miss a broadcast, I'm sure DJWheat reads those too, but he's not going to say he's changing the whole format and then not do anything with it for 6 months because some fans got pissed you didn't do a show last week.

theJob
Profile Joined October 2010
272 Posts
October 04 2012 18:35 GMT
#49816
I want sotg back! I'm loosing interest in SC2 without it!
Winners train. Loosers complain.
Sceptre
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada130 Posts
October 04 2012 19:09 GMT
#49817
On October 05 2012 02:50 Liquid`NonY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2012 02:24 Chriscras wrote:
I wish Nony was around to talk about Liquid'Sea

lol this is the first i heard of it. news from the sotg thread gr9

usually there is a thread about new players but not this time



So.... What do you think about it?
Ah, go Puck yourself.
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
October 04 2012 19:15 GMT
#49818
On October 05 2012 04:09 Sceptre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2012 02:50 Liquid`NonY wrote:
On October 05 2012 02:24 Chriscras wrote:
I wish Nony was around to talk about Liquid'Sea

lol this is the first i heard of it. news from the sotg thread gr9

usually there is a thread about new players but not this time



So.... What do you think about it?

i still dont know anything about it other than the fact that he joined. this news didn't spark some research spree from me :o
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
iGoTThiZ
Profile Joined August 2011
103 Posts
October 04 2012 19:15 GMT
#49819
We can only blame our community for putting a halt to this show. All the name calling and witch hunting cost us a great show. I mean, who would want to be in this show when they cant even be themselves without uptight nerds overreacting and sending dumb letters to their sponsors.
Quakie
Profile Joined October 2008
Norway725 Posts
October 04 2012 19:17 GMT
#49820
On October 05 2012 02:50 Liquid`NonY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2012 02:24 Chriscras wrote:
I wish Nony was around to talk about Liquid'Sea

lol this is the first i heard of it. news from the sotg thread gr9

usually there is a thread about new players but not this time

....wat
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