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Hardigan
Profile Joined June 2011
Switzerland1297 Posts
July 04 2012 14:30 GMT
#49241
can someone pls find that statement? Because i remember him saying only good stuff about DRG, after his breakthrough performance and until now.
Aeroplaneoverthesea
Profile Joined April 2012
United Kingdom1977 Posts
July 04 2012 14:32 GMT
#49242
I definitely don't remember him shitting on DRG.
Shiori
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
3815 Posts
July 04 2012 14:37 GMT
#49243
On July 04 2012 23:26 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
Not what I'm contesting. At the time he supposedly said DRG was cheesy, it's very possible that DRG was cheesy. That's a route a lot of good players, both Korean and foreign, have taken.

Yeah, but the point is that you can't discount Idra thinking player X is bad by claiming that he really said player X is cheesy, because the two things are similar in terms of Idra's respect for them.
Quotidian
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway1937 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-04 14:39:52
July 04 2012 14:37 GMT
#49244
On July 04 2012 23:10 pyro19 wrote:
Genius had a ball , Naniwa had his collosus in a line...
Line > Ball



thermal lance upgraded > thermal lance not upgraded

anyway.. what does this have to do with SOTG?
Euronyme
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden3804 Posts
July 04 2012 14:46 GMT
#49245
On July 04 2012 21:12 FunnyPicture wrote:
Wow, the way they treated Avilo was really shameful. Way to treat a guest guys, really...


They should never have sold that man a microphone.. 85% of what he said was "sort of" and "like".
I have no clue who he is, but god damn. Annoying person.
I bet i can maı̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̨̨̨̨̨̨ke you wipe your screen.
dvorakftw
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
681 Posts
July 04 2012 16:16 GMT
#49246
On July 04 2012 23:37 Quotidian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2012 23:10 pyro19 wrote:
Genius had a ball , Naniwa had his collosus in a line...
Line > Ball



thermal lance upgraded > thermal lance not upgraded

anyway.. what does this have to do with SOTG?

It's the StarCraft equivalent of "Squirrel!"
MtlGuitarist97
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States1539 Posts
July 04 2012 16:38 GMT
#49247
On July 04 2012 23:46 Euronyme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2012 21:12 FunnyPicture wrote:
Wow, the way they treated Avilo was really shameful. Way to treat a guest guys, really...


They should never have sold that man a microphone.. 85% of what he said was "sort of" and "like".
I have no clue who he is, but god damn. Annoying person.


Some people are better at public speaking than others. It's not like IdrA, JP, and iNcontroL do pod casts every single week or anything...wait a second.

Honestly though, they could've been nicer to Avilo. They don't need to treat him like he's their best friend, but the way he was treated was a bit rude to say the least.
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
July 04 2012 16:43 GMT
#49248
my lord will this ever end?

anyone know when the next show is? slightly more interesting subject than this, and maybe it will give you people something more constructive - or at the least more interesting - to talk about.
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
dvorakftw
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
681 Posts
July 04 2012 20:57 GMT
#49249
Well everyone can go watch this and all the EGfanboys can explain.

More details starting earlier here regarding the event on a whole. It also gets into the interesting contacting sponsors discussion. It sounded like Destiny really got the boot to get money pushed at Azeal.
Hnnngg
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1101 Posts
July 04 2012 21:07 GMT
#49250
On July 05 2012 05:57 dvorakftw wrote:
Well everyone can go watch this and all the EGfanboys can explain.

More details starting earlier here regarding the event on a whole. It also gets into the interesting contacting sponsors discussion. It sounded like Destiny really got the boot to get money pushed at Azeal.


EGfanboys can't explain, only Idra can.

Sounds like they wanted Idra, Idra planned on going to DH at that time, wasn't going to DH later, talked about going to GeSL and they picked Inori instead.

Or not, idk, but that GeSL guy didn't go into much detail. Just said they wanted Idra initially.
ShatterZer0
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1843 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-04 21:20:09
July 04 2012 21:16 GMT
#49251
On July 05 2012 05:57 dvorakftw wrote:
Well everyone can go watch this and all the EGfanboys can explain.

More details starting earlier here regarding the event on a whole. It also gets into the interesting contacting sponsors discussion. It sounded like Destiny really got the boot to get money pushed at Azeal.


Well that's dumb, most likely it was just EG management not even telling idra that he was invited because he was already scheduled for GESL and idra making an easy, if pessimistic and generally mean, assumption... It would also make sense to tell Demuslim "GESL wanted YOU!" instead of "LOL We're sending you as our not korean 3rd string guy who's only going there because Dreamhack is fucking up more popular/better players' schedules". Idra has the right to stream whenever the hell he wants... I mean, it may not be particularly good form, but when has idra ever given a shit about good form?

GESL shouldn't have been defensive and should have just gotten out their story to the community without purposefully trying to blame/vilify highly popular community figures and alienating several thousand SC2 fans... I mean, when has our community NOT rallied around good tournaments getting smashed by childish botnetters?
A time to live.
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
July 04 2012 21:30 GMT
#49252
On July 05 2012 06:16 ShatterZer0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 05:57 dvorakftw wrote:
Well everyone can go watch this and all the EGfanboys can explain.

More details starting earlier here regarding the event on a whole. It also gets into the interesting contacting sponsors discussion. It sounded like Destiny really got the boot to get money pushed at Azeal.


Well that's dumb, most likely it was just EG management not even telling idra that he was invited because he was already scheduled for GESL and idra making an easy, if pessimistic and generally mean, assumption... It would also make sense to tell Demuslim "GESL wanted YOU!" instead of "LOL We're sending you as our not korean 3rd string guy who's only going there because Dreamhack is fucking up more popular/better players' schedules". Idra has the right to stream whenever the hell he wants... I mean, it may not be particularly good form, but when has idra ever given a shit about good form?

GESL shouldn't have been defensive and should have just gotten out their story to the community without purposefully trying to blame/vilify highly popular community figures and alienating several thousand SC2 fans... I mean, when has our community NOT rallied around good tournaments getting smashed by childish botnetters?

If you read Evoli's post in that reddit thread, he explains the whole Idra thing. Basically Idra was supposed to go to DH, which is why EG didn't send him to GESL. Then after some poor results, Idra decided to pull out of DH. A bit down the road he asked if he could get into GESL, so Evoli contacted GESL, but the last spot was given to Inori.
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Shiori
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
3815 Posts
July 04 2012 21:34 GMT
#49253
On July 05 2012 06:30 jmbthirteen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 06:16 ShatterZer0 wrote:
On July 05 2012 05:57 dvorakftw wrote:
Well everyone can go watch this and all the EGfanboys can explain.

More details starting earlier here regarding the event on a whole. It also gets into the interesting contacting sponsors discussion. It sounded like Destiny really got the boot to get money pushed at Azeal.


Well that's dumb, most likely it was just EG management not even telling idra that he was invited because he was already scheduled for GESL and idra making an easy, if pessimistic and generally mean, assumption... It would also make sense to tell Demuslim "GESL wanted YOU!" instead of "LOL We're sending you as our not korean 3rd string guy who's only going there because Dreamhack is fucking up more popular/better players' schedules". Idra has the right to stream whenever the hell he wants... I mean, it may not be particularly good form, but when has idra ever given a shit about good form?

GESL shouldn't have been defensive and should have just gotten out their story to the community without purposefully trying to blame/vilify highly popular community figures and alienating several thousand SC2 fans... I mean, when has our community NOT rallied around good tournaments getting smashed by childish botnetters?

If you read Evoli's post in that reddit thread, he explains the whole Idra thing. Basically Idra was supposed to go to DH, which is why EG didn't send him to GESL. Then after some poor results, Idra decided to pull out of DH. A bit down the road he asked if he could get into GESL, so Evoli contacted GESL, but the last spot was given to Inori.


CSNJohn sums it up well: "he's[Idra] honestly just a jackass."
Durp
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada3117 Posts
July 04 2012 21:43 GMT
#49254
On July 05 2012 06:16 ShatterZer0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 05:57 dvorakftw wrote:
Well everyone can go watch this and all the EGfanboys can explain.

More details starting earlier here regarding the event on a whole. It also gets into the interesting contacting sponsors discussion. It sounded like Destiny really got the boot to get money pushed at Azeal.


Well that's dumb, most likely it was just EG management not even telling idra that he was invited because he was already scheduled for GESL and idra making an easy, if pessimistic and generally mean, assumption... It would also make sense to tell Demuslim "GESL wanted YOU!" instead of "LOL We're sending you as our not korean 3rd string guy who's only going there because Dreamhack is fucking up more popular/better players' schedules". Idra has the right to stream whenever the hell he wants... I mean, it may not be particularly good form, but when has idra ever given a shit about good form?

GESL shouldn't have been defensive and should have just gotten out their story to the community without purposefully trying to blame/vilify highly popular community figures and alienating several thousand SC2 fans... I mean, when has our community NOT rallied around good tournaments getting smashed by childish botnetters?

This is exactly how I feel.

Did IdrA handle himself properly? Probably not. But in spite of that, the first day of the event was pretty poorly done, and it's going to be difficult to carry an audience multiple days- or to keep an audience engaged in the first day- if the event isn't at a high level. At this point, so many tournaments exist with such high production value that if your product isn't at that expected level, you won't succeed. Seems like they're trying to blame IdrA or the "old boys club" for their own shortcomings, and after about two or three minutes of Garrett's rant about IdrA I just felt like he was whining uncontrollably, rather than trying to form any logical argument.

My opinion, take it or leave it.
SOOOOOooooOOOOooooOOOOoo Many BANELINGS!!
Nutwagon
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada10 Posts
July 04 2012 21:54 GMT
#49255
On July 05 2012 05:57 dvorakftw wrote:
Well everyone can go watch this and all the EGfanboys can explain.

More details starting earlier here regarding the event on a whole. It also gets into the interesting contacting sponsors discussion. It sounded like Destiny really got the boot to get money pushed at Azeal.


What is this even in reply to? How does this random show have anything to do with SOTG?

All it looks like you are doing is bashing Idra for no reason, you aren't even defending Avilo anymore which is how you started out. You must be soooo mad at Idra because he had more viewers than the GESL right? Big fuckin deal
dvorakftw
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
681 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-04 22:26:57
July 04 2012 22:18 GMT
#49256
On July 05 2012 06:43 Durp wrote:
Did IdrA handle himself properly? Probably not. But in spite of that, the first day of the event was pretty poorly done, and it's going to be difficult to carry an audience multiple days- or to keep an audience engaged in the first day- if the event isn't at a high level. At this point, so many tournaments exist with such high production value that if your product isn't at that expected level, you won't succeed. Seems like they're trying to blame IdrA or the "old boys club" for their own shortcomings, and after about two or three minutes of Garrett's rant about IdrA I just felt like he was whining uncontrollably, rather than trying to form any logical argument.

My opinion, take it or leave it.

IdrA not handling things properly. The recurring theme! I wonder how DeMu feels about having his teammate not even supporting him at least even if Greg did have a legit beef with the event.

And when did it become impossible to say anything negative without being called a whiner? Garrett's apparently now having to spend thousands of his own dollars because of the situation because he's a standup guy with integrity.

edit: I meant to add, you are skipping over a lot that was done against the event before it happened in your attempt to blame the problems on bad production the first day.
GwSC
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1997 Posts
July 04 2012 22:19 GMT
#49257
On July 05 2012 05:57 dvorakftw wrote:
Well everyone can go watch this and all the EGfanboys can explain.

More details starting earlier here regarding the event on a whole. It also gets into the interesting contacting sponsors discussion. It sounded like Destiny really got the boot to get money pushed at Azeal.


So I gather these guys are mad at Idra because he streamed during their event and got more viewers than them? Uh, ok then. lol.
LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
July 04 2012 22:21 GMT
#49258
Wait, what does this have to do with anything SotG-related?
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Titorelli
Profile Joined March 2011
2492 Posts
July 04 2012 22:23 GMT
#49259
On July 01 2012 16:55 freakhill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2012 15:14 SnipedSoul wrote:
JP admitted it was a bad idea to bring Avilo on and won't make the same mistake again. Asking for more than that is kind of weird, imo.


This is ridiculous. Can't they recognize the misandry of their ways. Don't they realize they were treating a fellow human being as a sack of shit, and that they made a show of it!
The "bad" thing was not "to bring Avilo on", it was to behave as they did.
I don't want tocare about what you get on TV or on the radio in the united states. I, however, expect public figures whose prestige exceed american borders to have common decency.

Such true words! Thank you for that statement! Really disappointed in JP. I expected such behaviour of unmannered brats like Inc and Idra but not JP. I guess manners don't matter that much...
"Everybody poops.... after Tasteless kills them" Artosis
dvorakftw
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
681 Posts
July 04 2012 22:25 GMT
#49260
On July 05 2012 06:54 Nutwagon wrote:
What is this even in reply to? How does this random show have anything to do with SOTG?

All it looks like you are doing is bashing Idra for no reason, you aren't even defending Avilo anymore which is how you started out. You must be soooo mad at Idra because he had more viewers than the GESL right? Big fuckin deal

Ever watch the TV show House? You know how they always start with someone being really sick and then before every commercial break something new and even worse happens? It starts with noticing him being a total dick to avilo. Then it's thinking about the disrespect to Luckyfool and Fitzy. Then it's the posts in this thread. Then it's hearing details about GESL.

And if I'm piling on, the casting on TSL4 is pretty awful. Missing lots of action, totally wrong predictions. I wouldn't have turned it on except I like Beasty and it's a Liquid event.

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