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TommyP
Profile Joined December 2011
United States6231 Posts
July 05 2012 01:23 GMT
#49281
why day9 quit?
#TheOneTrueDong
Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
July 05 2012 02:59 GMT
#49282
On July 05 2012 10:23 TommyP wrote:
why day9 quit?


Too busy, makes too much money doing other things. SOTG is an unpaid gig (I think).
Swords
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
6038 Posts
July 05 2012 03:14 GMT
#49283
On July 05 2012 10:17 dvorakftw wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 09:20 Swords wrote:
These posts are stupid. Find a GESL thread or make a new one. This stuff has nothing to do with SOTG. The problems the GESL had go way beyond IdrA and likely should be discussed (especially considering all the weird contradicting information on Reddit from GWIN, EG, etc.). However, this is not the place to discuss any of these things. This is the place to discuss SOTG, not IdrA or GESL.


The topic was brought up on SotG and as there are still questions about exactly what happened and why, and since IdrA is part of both, I think the topic is right at home in this thread.

gg


Except IdrA is not part of both. He's an occasional guest of SotG, not one of the hosts (read the OP). The one time GESL was brought up on SoTG involved Azael (I don't even believe IdrA was on the show for that episode), and much of the recent drama referenced has come from reddit and the show GWIN appeared on.

If you want SoTG to address GESL further then this is a good place to request it. It also might be a good place to discuss how the content of that SoTG related to the content of GWIN's interview. So far this thread is being mostly used to complain about IdrA or to talk about what GWIN said - not to talk about anything relevant to what was said on SoTG about GESL.

I think the whole GESL controversy is worthy of it's own thread and for it to be buried at the back of the giant SoTG thread is honestly kind of sad. The fact that the GWIN interview is being cherry picked for times IdrA may or may not have acted like a dick so people can continue bitching about him after the Avilo incident is even sadder.
dvorakftw
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
681 Posts
July 05 2012 11:31 GMT
#49284
On July 05 2012 12:14 Swords wrote:
Except IdrA is not part of both.
...
The fact that the GWIN interview is being cherry picked for times IdrA may or may not have acted like a dick so people can continue bitching about him after the Avilo incident is even sadder.

Except he is part of both. Sorry if you don't like it but that's just a fact.

And "cherry picked"? Do you even know what that term means?
Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-05 12:40:21
July 05 2012 12:38 GMT
#49285
On July 05 2012 08:49 Dosey wrote:
Not sure how this conversation went full circle back to the GESL, but it's rather pathetic to put blame on idra in regards to the poor viewer numbers. Yes, it may have been juvenile to do that out of spite (if that is even the case)... But if a single American pro has the alleged power to "steal" and retain viewership from your entire event, then that says more about your event and maybe you should be looking in the mirror instead of pointing fingers elsewhere.

Jus' Sayin'

Ya, IdrA better stop streaming, he is killing all the SCII events.

Oh and guys, dont piss IdrA off, or he might just stream during the next Dreamhack or MLG and ruin them as well!
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Atlas247
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada318 Posts
July 05 2012 14:10 GMT
#49286
Show today or no? I'm never really sure.
Windex Banana Lampshade
joeschmo
Profile Joined January 2011
United States167 Posts
July 05 2012 14:14 GMT
#49287
e-sports is taking a big hit....thanks a lot dvorak
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 05 2012 14:23 GMT
#49288
I am guessing no show because iNcontroL is at HSC?
I really hope you guys keep doing SotG.
I had a good night of sleep.
itmeJP
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1101 Posts
July 05 2012 21:34 GMT
#49289
No show today / this week. Too many people in too many different places.

Watch HSC5 instead It's awesome!
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SuperSloth
Profile Joined April 2012
38 Posts
July 05 2012 22:49 GMT
#49290
Will it ever be possible for incontrol to not be one of the guests?
Leth0
Profile Joined February 2012
856 Posts
July 05 2012 22:58 GMT
#49291
On July 06 2012 07:49 SuperSloth wrote:
Will it ever be possible for incontrol to not be one of the guests?


He's not a guest he's one of the hosts. Possibly the most entertaining one as he is always there to keep the comedy flowing. Haters gonna hate. Do something more productive with your energy IMO. You're only hurting yourself.
Swords
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
6038 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-06 02:26:42
July 06 2012 02:24 GMT
#49292
On July 05 2012 20:31 dvorakftw wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 12:14 Swords wrote:
Except IdrA is not part of both.
...
The fact that the GWIN interview is being cherry picked for times IdrA may or may not have acted like a dick so people can continue bitching about him after the Avilo incident is even sadder.

Except he is part of both. Sorry if you don't like it but that's just a fact.

And "cherry picked"? Do you even know what that term means?


He isn't. Read the first post in the thread. He isn't a host. He's been a guest for several episodes. If he's around they'll sometimes have him on, but he is not one of the people running the show (ie: the people who have control of the content).

And yes, I do know what cherry picked means. It's an intransitive verb that means "to select from the most desirable". What's happening here is you are cherry picking the juciest IdrA related details from the GWIN interview and ignoring all the other shit he said harmed the GESL and then whining about IdrA in a thread about a show where he occasionally appears as a guest.

I don't really care that much though. If you want to continue talking about the GESL and how much you don't like IdrA's attitude in a thread about SoTG have fun doing that. But I'm not the only person who's said to you that this has nothing to do with SoTG.

jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
July 06 2012 02:29 GMT
#49293
On July 06 2012 07:49 SuperSloth wrote:
Will it ever be possible for incontrol to not be one of the guests?

they tried that, show wasn't as good without him
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Chriscras
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2812 Posts
July 06 2012 02:33 GMT
#49294
Next show when?
"En taro adun, Executor."
proxyShark
Profile Joined September 2011
31 Posts
July 06 2012 02:33 GMT
#49295
There are so many SOTG copycat shows with like 30 viewers
SnowFox2ne1
Profile Joined June 2012
United States52 Posts
July 06 2012 02:41 GMT
#49296
On July 06 2012 11:33 proxyShark wrote:
There are so many SOTG copycat shows with like 30 viewers


How dare people provide more content to the community. God damnit. I want SotG to be the only show, so when it isn't on I get even more hyped for the next one. And if some heathens in our community don't like it, they can fuck off to LoL. They make me so mad, how dare they.
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AlphaWhale
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia328 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-06 03:45:33
July 06 2012 03:44 GMT
#49297
On July 05 2012 05:57 dvorakftw wrote:
Well everyone can go watch this and all the EGfanboys can explain.

More details starting earlier here regarding the event on a whole. It also gets into the interesting contacting sponsors discussion. It sounded like Destiny really got the boot to get money pushed at Azeal.


Wow, Gwin is absolutely steaming, like over the top temper tantrum. I think the stream number thing is nice to refer to but it's not the be all and end all. They go on to say the event was a success so if it was, what's the problem? As long as there are tournaments than market themselves effectively they won't need to worry about numbers, there will be an audience.

Given the international and online nature of e sports there will always be an alternative to whatever somebody is watching. It's quite impossible to be the only attraction around.

The word of the day is "schadenfreude".

ps. We can only summise from these happenings than Twitter is the root of all evil
The icon for diamond league is actually a sapphire.
dark_dragoon10
Profile Joined May 2010
United States299 Posts
July 06 2012 03:55 GMT
#49298
SOTG is awesome! Keep doing what you're doing and don't listen to all of the haters (doesn't mean stop trying to improve, the quality of the show has started to go down a lil but its still great, just try and remedy that I guess? and bring back sean even if its partially or better yet... bring tasteless on!!!).

Anyways... sick show, hope it becomes more regular! ACTIVIAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH!
The TYRANT IS BACK! JAEDONG HWAITING! Nal_rA, Yellow, Boxer 4 life. Stephano, MC, and Zergbong!!!!
Lightswarm
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada967 Posts
July 06 2012 04:10 GMT
#49299
is JP stil taking questions from the emails?
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Shiori
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
3815 Posts
July 06 2012 04:26 GMT
#49300
On July 06 2012 12:44 AlphaWhale wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 05:57 dvorakftw wrote:
Well everyone can go watch this and all the EGfanboys can explain.

More details starting earlier here regarding the event on a whole. It also gets into the interesting contacting sponsors discussion. It sounded like Destiny really got the boot to get money pushed at Azeal.


Wow, Gwin is absolutely steaming, like over the top temper tantrum. I think the stream number thing is nice to refer to but it's not the be all and end all. They go on to say the event was a success so if it was, what's the problem? As long as there are tournaments than market themselves effectively they won't need to worry about numbers, there will be an audience.

Given the international and online nature of e sports there will always be an alternative to whatever somebody is watching. It's quite impossible to be the only attraction around.

The word of the day is "schadenfreude".

ps. We can only summise from these happenings than Twitter is the root of all evil

I actually think Gwin was pretty reasonable given what he's had to undergo (spending his own money etc.). I don't believe that Idra/EG/whomever was responsible for the event's failure (which seems to have been somewhat implied) but the man has every right to be upset.
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