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On July 02 2012 14:25 dvorakftw wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2012 14:14 FabledIntegral wrote:On July 02 2012 08:15 dvorakftw wrote:On July 02 2012 03:53 FabledIntegral wrote:
Regardless I watched the clip (I've never watched even a single segment of SOTG so I wasn't even sure exactly what it was), but really all I saw was Avilo speaking about TvZ lategame from his perspective, which was fine, but then when IdrA went to speak, he interrupted him. . Weird, you seemed to have missed all the times avilo was interrupted.And can we skip the follow-up "But then avilo twisted IdrA's words!!!111" whinge? I'm not whining. I don't care. Clearly you do. You may have failed to read the part where I said I had never watched SOTG in the past. The fact people can get so worked up about shit like this (and be so "proud" to "do what is right" even though the majority think it's wrong) is mindboggling to me. You seem like you're 16. I'm eighteen and I like it.
So brave!
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On July 02 2012 17:07 tdt wrote:
Funny idra calling ppl terrible... guess its all relative eh?
Well if you are going to ignore Idra past accomplishments then I guess Jinro is terrible as well. So is Boxer (at both Sc2 and BW). Some people...
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On July 02 2012 17:28 -Archangel- wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2012 17:07 tdt wrote:
Funny idra calling ppl terrible... guess its all relative eh? Well if you are going to ignore Idra past accomplishments then I guess Jinro is terrible as well. So is Boxer (at both Sc2 and BW). Some people...
Boxer was in code A till he momentarily retired, so he is not terrible, he just doesn't play anymore. He is miles ahead of Idra.
Current Jinro IS terrible (progamer-wise). I hope he can get out of his slump, I think he has some kind of mental block that prevents him from winning :/
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On July 02 2012 17:07 tdt wrote:
Funny idra calling ppl terrible... guess its all relative eh?
That is pretty shallow logic seeing as how Idra was once a top pro, only recently slumping (while still now being a top foreigner). I'm not quite sure how you can group Idra and Avilo (who is barely relevent besides causing drama) together as "terrible". That's some logic ya got there.
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On July 02 2012 17:28 -Archangel- wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2012 17:07 tdt wrote:
Funny idra calling ppl terrible... guess its all relative eh? Well if you are going to ignore Idra past accomplishments then I guess Jinro is terrible as well. So is Boxer (at both Sc2 and BW). Some people...
nope idra is a terrible player, by his very own standards. so it is quite funny. the only reason he has fans is because there are those who love his bad attitude and douchebag behavior. he should retire and move on to casting because you cant really take him seriously as a player. talks a lot of trash but can't back any of it up. he's blinded by bias, so he would make an entertaining color caster for sure. analysis not so much it'd just be whine whine whine.
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On July 02 2012 17:52 fishjie wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2012 17:28 -Archangel- wrote:On July 02 2012 17:07 tdt wrote:
Funny idra calling ppl terrible... guess its all relative eh? Well if you are going to ignore Idra past accomplishments then I guess Jinro is terrible as well. So is Boxer (at both Sc2 and BW). Some people... nope idra is a terrible player, by his very own standards. so it is quite funny. the only reason he has fans is because there are those who love his bad attitude and douchebag behavior. he should retire and move on to casting because you cant really take him seriously as a player. talks a lot of trash but can't back any of it up. he's blinded by bias, so he would make an entertaining color caster for sure. analysis not so much it'd just be whine whine whine.
sorry to contradict you, but Idra has been a knowledgable and unemotional analytical caster when the differentiation between "analytical caster" and "play-by-play caster" didn't yet attract attention.
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Hey guys,
I play Zerg ... and has anyone else noticed how easy it is to smash Terran lately?
LOL.
Bear in mind that I play at a very, very low level, but it really feels like Terrans don't know what the hell they're doing lately. The only game I've lost against Terran was a game I threw away in a base trade (I crushed his natural expansion, but decided to dilly dally and try to max out on banelings. )
Oh well.
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On July 02 2012 11:59 dvorakftw wrote:
....mentioning Orb brings up an interesting comparison. iNcontroL can, for example, say he would punch CombatEX in the mouth and knock him out and he would do so to further eSports. Well yeah it's big talk and he probably actually wouldn't do it and he'd have a strong defense of being provoked even if he did but thank God he didn't call him a nigger! He can make lewd jokes about a former pornstar because hey former pornstar, and call avilo a shithead because no one's confusing avilo for White-Ra or Sheth, and tell a large section of the StarCraft community "Fuck you forever" because what do we matter (most of us aren't even Masters level players!) and it's all good. SirScoots approved. Buy an EG shirt! But heaven help you if you use the N word. A year ago. To some random person online who probably isn't even black. EG has standards and don't let anyone ever tell you different.
While I disagree on writing/calling the sponsors in EVERY case (if something really bad happens, the sponsors will know and pull the plug anyhow - if they don't, they deserve the dip in popularity), I can't help feel Alex"holier than thou, cuz I graduated in Black Studies"Garfield has it coming for him.
Edit:
I'm sorry.. I mixed up Scoots and Garfield. Probably because I think of Scoots whenever I think of EG management.
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People just doesn't know when enough is enough right? LIke it's been days and people still going.
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Well things would have gone a lot smoother if JP and/or Incontrol just would have said, we fucked up, we are sorry for Avilo, this is the situation and we will do better next time. As Nony did later on.
I think many people reacted like me and simply thought that Avilo was put in a terrible spot, did the best out of a shitty situation, got ridiculed and then got thrown of the show. Reminded me of high school bullies which gives a bitter taste in my mouth. I dunno how many people actually contacted sponsors, maybe 0.01%, but to react to obvious unfair treatments of a person in the public eye by pointing it out (not by contacting sponsors) should be good for esports I think, or at least I hope so.
So instead we get a incontrol message saying, that we are threatening Esports and "fuck you forever" in response to that. Well thank you sir, how very nice of you. I guess he was tilted pretty hard by then, but still. Okay there was a we did bad somewhere in there to, but.. well you usually do not write "fuck you forever" and "sorry we did a mistake" in the same message. The "sorry we did a mistake" part sounds somehow a little less genuine then.
Well luckily Nony had a bit more balanced approach and sorted things out. I am amazed by the way how every time that man open his mouth it just sounds "right". Should run for president ^^
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On July 02 2012 18:43 4ZakeN87 wrote:
Well luckily Nony had a bit more balanced approach and sorted things out. I am amazed by the way how every time that man open his mouth it just sounds "right". Should run for president ^^
NONY 2012 - If you don't give a fuck who runs the country.
Don't mess with Texas. Or do, whatever man. Just be chill.
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On July 02 2012 18:33 Thrombozyt wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2012 11:59 dvorakftw wrote:
....mentioning Orb brings up an interesting comparison. iNcontroL can, for example, say he would punch CombatEX in the mouth and knock him out and he would do so to further eSports. Well yeah it's big talk and he probably actually wouldn't do it and he'd have a strong defense of being provoked even if he did but thank God he didn't call him a nigger! He can make lewd jokes about a former pornstar because hey former pornstar, and call avilo a shithead because no one's confusing avilo for White-Ra or Sheth, and tell a large section of the StarCraft community "Fuck you forever" because what do we matter (most of us aren't even Masters level players!) and it's all good. SirScoots approved. Buy an EG shirt! But heaven help you if you use the N word. A year ago. To some random person online who probably isn't even black. EG has standards and don't let anyone ever tell you different. While I disagree on writing/calling the sponsors in EVERY case (if something really bad happens, the sponsors will know and pull the plug anyhow - if they don't, they deserve the dip in popularity), I can't help feel Sir"holier than thou, cuz I graduated in Black Studies"Scoots has it coming for him.
You're thinking of Alex Garfield, not Scoots.
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I usually download the mp3 to listen to at work. I think E72 was very entertaining, good quality tvz discussion, more of that please! =) Idra + Avilio was pretty funny aswell.
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Edit: Nvm, I just want people to learn to ignore this stuff, and that means I should too.
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I think we really need some new good drama because this one is pretty boring to be honest
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On July 01 2012 14:16 Duravi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2012 14:13 Prophanity wrote:On July 01 2012 14:11 Duravi wrote:On July 01 2012 14:09 Ireniicus wrote:
I contacted SirScoots to the affect I would not watch the latest EG mastercup because of the last SOTG antics. As you can imagine he was unrepentant advised I should just unfollow all EG, which is a shame as I quite like listening to the guy on Lo3 .
So I think the message is clear. If it didn't bother you carry on and enjoy the shows if it did best let EG know that you will not be supporting them at this time as its clear their management team see nothing wrong whatsoever with EGIdra or EGIncontrols actions of late.
SirScoots @ "Underreaction, you should unfollow all things EG, myself included if they upset you so much." If you are really unhappy, contact the sponsors. That appears to be the only thing that actually gets things done. I'm mad at my tv because the reception went out... Think I should burn my house down? No, but if it actually is the fault of the TV you should contact the makers, and if they give you a hard time you should contact their parent company.
Yeah, cause that won't do anything like reduce the capital being invested into the industry or anything.
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On July 02 2012 18:33 Thrombozyt wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2012 11:59 dvorakftw wrote:
....mentioning Orb brings up an interesting comparison. iNcontroL can, for example, say he would punch CombatEX in the mouth and knock him out and he would do so to further eSports. Well yeah it's big talk and he probably actually wouldn't do it and he'd have a strong defense of being provoked even if he did but thank God he didn't call him a nigger! He can make lewd jokes about a former pornstar because hey former pornstar, and call avilo a shithead because no one's confusing avilo for White-Ra or Sheth, and tell a large section of the StarCraft community "Fuck you forever" because what do we matter (most of us aren't even Masters level players!) and it's all good. SirScoots approved. Buy an EG shirt! But heaven help you if you use the N word. A year ago. To some random person online who probably isn't even black. EG has standards and don't let anyone ever tell you different. While I disagree on writing/calling the sponsors in EVERY case (if something really bad happens, the sponsors will know and pull the plug anyhow - if they don't, they deserve the dip in popularity), I can't help feel Sir"holier than thou, cuz I graduated in Black Studies"Scoots has it coming for him.
Alex Garfield was the one who was involved with Black studies. Not Scoots.
Edit: Someone already pointed that out.
Anyways, come on people. Just drop all of it already.
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On July 02 2012 18:33 Thrombozyt wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2012 11:59 dvorakftw wrote:
....mentioning Orb brings up an interesting comparison. iNcontroL can, for example, say he would punch CombatEX in the mouth and knock him out and he would do so to further eSports. Well yeah it's big talk and he probably actually wouldn't do it and he'd have a strong defense of being provoked even if he did but thank God he didn't call him a nigger! He can make lewd jokes about a former pornstar because hey former pornstar, and call avilo a shithead because no one's confusing avilo for White-Ra or Sheth, and tell a large section of the StarCraft community "Fuck you forever" because what do we matter (most of us aren't even Masters level players!) and it's all good. SirScoots approved. Buy an EG shirt! But heaven help you if you use the N word. A year ago. To some random person online who probably isn't even black. EG has standards and don't let anyone ever tell you different. While I disagree on writing/calling the sponsors in EVERY case (if something really bad happens, the sponsors will know and pull the plug anyhow - if they don't, they deserve the dip in popularity), I can't help feel Sir"holier than thou, cuz I graduated in Black Studies"Scoots has it coming for him.
Technically it was Alex "I am a moral paragon" Garfield who has the Black Studies degree.
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On July 02 2012 17:52 fishjie wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2012 17:28 -Archangel- wrote:On July 02 2012 17:07 tdt wrote:
Funny idra calling ppl terrible... guess its all relative eh? Well if you are going to ignore Idra past accomplishments then I guess Jinro is terrible as well. So is Boxer (at both Sc2 and BW). Some people... nope idra is a terrible player, by his very own standards. so it is quite funny. the only reason he has fans is because there are those who love his bad attitude and douchebag behavior. he should retire and move on to casting because you cant really take him seriously as a player. talks a lot of trash but can't back any of it up. he's blinded by bias, so he would make an entertaining color caster for sure. analysis not so much it'd just be whine whine whine.
I personally like idra because he generally played straight up which is what I like to see. His behavior gets old for me, but doesn't bug me. The problem I had was the way state of the game, which is suppose to be like the priemier esports show, seemed so unproffessional, if you want esports to be justified as a real sport then we have to fake it till we make it.
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On July 02 2012 17:36 freakhill wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2012 17:28 -Archangel- wrote:On July 02 2012 17:07 tdt wrote:
Funny idra calling ppl terrible... guess its all relative eh? Well if you are going to ignore Idra past accomplishments then I guess Jinro is terrible as well. So is Boxer (at both Sc2 and BW). Some people... Boxer was in code A till he momentarily retired, so he is not terrible, he just doesn't play anymore. He is miles ahead of Idra. Current Jinro IS terrible (progamer-wise). I hope he can get out of his slump, I think he has some kind of mental block that prevents him from winning :/
Lol, this just proves my point. Thank you.
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