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Baalthersar
Profile Joined December 2011
Germany239 Posts
June 21 2012 22:59 GMT
#46741
Reading this thread I often think people watch different episodes than I do. What Terran hate was displayed?
I really enjoy the show and hope for another episode soon.
Dalavita
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1113 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-21 23:06:15
June 21 2012 23:04 GMT
#46742
On June 22 2012 07:50 Gamegene wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2012 07:20 dvorakftw wrote:
Alright, poll time to end this once and for all!

Poll: Should SotG have a Terran pillar?

No, Terran will take what they're given and like it. (59)
 
57%

Yes, having all three races represented is better than only having two. (44)
 
43%

103 total votes

Your vote: Should SotG have a Terran pillar?

(Vote): Yes, having all three races represented is better than only having two.
(Vote): No, Terran will take what they're given and like it.



Terrans voting yes everyone else voting no...


I voted no as a terran....

Anyway, I don't get all this rage. Why is a terran necessary in SotG? I enjoy the terrans when they occasionally show up to discuss ingame issues, but I can listen to Incontrol,Idra and Artosis bitch about Terran while being able to agree or disagree with their statements. What they say isn't fact in any way and it's biased and subjective, just like everyone elses opinion. Why get so upset about people stating their opinions on a talk show?
howLiN
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Portugal1676 Posts
June 21 2012 23:10 GMT
#46743
On June 22 2012 08:04 Dalavita wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2012 07:50 Gamegene wrote:
On June 22 2012 07:20 dvorakftw wrote:
Alright, poll time to end this once and for all!

Poll: Should SotG have a Terran pillar?

No, Terran will take what they're given and like it. (59)
 
57%

Yes, having all three races represented is better than only having two. (44)
 
43%

103 total votes

Your vote: Should SotG have a Terran pillar?

(Vote): Yes, having all three races represented is better than only having two.
(Vote): No, Terran will take what they're given and like it.



Terrans voting yes everyone else voting no...


I voted no as a terran....

Anyway, I don't get all this rage. Why is a terran necessary in SotG? I enjoy the terrans when they occasionally show up to discuss ingame issues, but I can listen to Incontrol,Idra and Artosis bitch about Terran while being able to agree or disagree with their statements. What they say isn't fact in any way and it's biased and subjective, just like everyone elses opinion. Why get so upset about people stating their opinions on a talk show?

Because usually people on the internet forget that there is stuff like different opinions than yours, and don't want to deal with that. Basically they don't necessarily want terrans on the show, they just want people that they think will tend to agree with their preconceived opinions more.
stratmatt
Profile Joined April 2011
United States913 Posts
June 21 2012 23:12 GMT
#46744
On June 22 2012 08:04 Dalavita wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2012 07:50 Gamegene wrote:
On June 22 2012 07:20 dvorakftw wrote:
Alright, poll time to end this once and for all!

Poll: Should SotG have a Terran pillar?

No, Terran will take what they're given and like it. (59)
 
57%

Yes, having all three races represented is better than only having two. (44)
 
43%

103 total votes

Your vote: Should SotG have a Terran pillar?

(Vote): Yes, having all three races represented is better than only having two.
(Vote): No, Terran will take what they're given and like it.



Terrans voting yes everyone else voting no...


I voted no as a terran....

Anyway, I don't get all this rage. Why is a terran necessary in SotG? I enjoy the terrans when they occasionally show up to discuss ingame issues, but I can listen to Incontrol,Idra and Artosis bitch about Terran while being able to agree or disagree with their statements. What they say isn't fact in any way and it's biased and subjective, just like everyone elses opinion. Why get so upset about people stating their opinions on a talk show?


I agree to an extent, but maybe some in the community are just asking for a better quality product? Possibly a less biased viewing experience? but this is somewhat why I think the terran complaints are a little ridiculous myself, you cant expect the opinions of commentators and pro joes to be so objective. Either way, its not like its gonna make or break the show but if I were the show's producer, I'd consider it to be a valid concern when looking for ways to improve my product.
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-22 00:50:46
June 22 2012 00:47 GMT
#46745
Why would you even look at SoTG as a product? It's a bunch of guys talking about Starcraft. Maybe there just isn't anybody else they would like to talk about Starcraft with (regularly, at least).

If JP does crumble under all this dumb pressure, I can't help but feel sorry for the Terran dude that gets chosen. Not only will he be walking into a podcast he doesn't belong in for no other reason than playing a race, but his role will be seen exclusively as that of a "representative" of his race and he will get flamed to no end every time he fails to be as irrational and absurd as the people he "represents".
Blasterion
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
China10272 Posts
June 22 2012 00:52 GMT
#46746
Don't care much about balance but this STOG was vry cringe worthy. To see these surly charismatic people do nothing but shit on a race playerbase for the span of an entire hour. It was a disappointment.
[TLNY]Mahjong Club Thread
Arush
Profile Joined October 2011
Canada80 Posts
June 22 2012 00:52 GMT
#46747
A product made me laugh...
Its not like you are paying to watch... give them a freaking break.
Plaguuuu!
tranmillitary
Profile Joined August 2011
210 Posts
June 22 2012 00:53 GMT
#46748
You guys gotta remember.. in the foreign scene... there are few good Terrans. Our best players are mostly zerg and protoss players. Stephano/nani/Huk....... we have no elite Terrans... Thorzain is the closest.
stratmatt
Profile Joined April 2011
United States913 Posts
June 22 2012 00:54 GMT
#46749
On June 22 2012 09:47 Talin wrote:
Why would you even look at SoTG as a product? It's a bunch of guys talking about Starcraft. Maybe there just isn't anybody else they would like to talk about Starcraft with (regularly, at least).

If JP does crumble under all this dumb pressure, I can't help but feel sorry for the Terran dude that gets chosen. Not only will he be walking into a podcast he doesn't belong in for no other reason than playing a race, but his role will be seen exclusively as that of a "representative" of his race and he will get flamed to no end every time he fails to be as irrational and absurd as the people he "represents".



Um, why wouldn't you consider it a product?
Blasterion
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
China10272 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-22 00:57:26
June 22 2012 00:56 GMT
#46750
On June 22 2012 09:53 tranmillitary wrote:
You guys gotta remember.. in the foreign scene... there are few good Terrans. Our best players are mostly zerg and protoss players. Stephano/nani/Huk....... we have no elite Terrans... Thorzain is the closest.

But you see.... Thorzain is Euro. SOTG are all Americans. Now how many elite American Terrans are there?
[TLNY]Mahjong Club Thread
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
June 22 2012 00:57 GMT
#46751
On June 22 2012 09:54 stratmatt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2012 09:47 Talin wrote:
Why would you even look at SoTG as a product? It's a bunch of guys talking about Starcraft. Maybe there just isn't anybody else they would like to talk about Starcraft with (regularly, at least).

If JP does crumble under all this dumb pressure, I can't help but feel sorry for the Terran dude that gets chosen. Not only will he be walking into a podcast he doesn't belong in for no other reason than playing a race, but his role will be seen exclusively as that of a "representative" of his race and he will get flamed to no end every time he fails to be as irrational and absurd as the people he "represents".



Um, why wouldn't you consider it a product?


Why would you consider it a product?

Also, do you always answer questions with inverse questions? =/
Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-22 03:06:57
June 22 2012 03:05 GMT
#46752
In regards to Day 9 appearing on the HOTS box art, I predicted Day 9 would be employed in some capacity by Blizzard over a year ago in a thread about Pros and their Education Level.

On December 22 2010 16:23 Defacer wrote:
I think the biggest difference that I notice between university and high school grads is the ability to think critically, see an issue from multiple perspectives, and not take or make issues personal.

If you ever listen to SOTG, Day9 deals with disagreement very well, while still getting his opinion across. And he has fun WITH people, as opposed to making fun OF people.

Blizzcon doesn't MAKE you more mature, but it's a significant sign that the people that make the game and ask you to host their most prestigious event THINK you're mature.

Of all the casters out there, they had Day9 cast with the Dustin Browder and the creators of the game, because they trusted that he wouldn't talk too much, talk too little, or say something stupid (even by accident).

My prediction is that Day9 is offered a full-time job from Blizzard in the next year in a half. And it will be a crazy good job, too. Six figures. Book it.


Not an exact prediction, but pretty fucking good. I would not be surprised if Day9 banked over $100,000 this year.

Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
June 22 2012 07:11 GMT
#46753
On June 22 2012 12:05 Defacer wrote:
In regards to Day 9 appearing on the HOTS box art, I predicted Day 9 would be employed in some capacity by Blizzard over a year ago in a thread about Pros and their Education Level.

Show nested quote +
On December 22 2010 16:23 Defacer wrote:
I think the biggest difference that I notice between university and high school grads is the ability to think critically, see an issue from multiple perspectives, and not take or make issues personal.

If you ever listen to SOTG, Day9 deals with disagreement very well, while still getting his opinion across. And he has fun WITH people, as opposed to making fun OF people.

Blizzcon doesn't MAKE you more mature, but it's a significant sign that the people that make the game and ask you to host their most prestigious event THINK you're mature.

Of all the casters out there, they had Day9 cast with the Dustin Browder and the creators of the game, because they trusted that he wouldn't talk too much, talk too little, or say something stupid (even by accident).

My prediction is that Day9 is offered a full-time job from Blizzard in the next year in a half. And it will be a crazy good job, too. Six figures. Book it.


Not an exact prediction, but pretty fucking good. I would not be surprised if Day9 banked over $100,000 this year.



that was a joke though, right? day9 being on the box of HOTS?

i play terran and i don't see where the big problem is. they have their own opinions, what else are they going to share? nobody straight up shat on terran. i think some people just don't get the humor of incontrol and the rest of the cast, which makes me wonder why they're even watching the show. i agree it would be interesting to have a terran player on every once in a while though, but who is that really gonna be? demuslim is the only good terran player that lives in a decent timezone that i can think of. maybe thorzain if he wants to (since he's in korea and artosis can make it too).
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 22 2012 07:38 GMT
#46754
I think this show was a fucking abomination.

+ Show Spoiler +
No Sharktosis
I had a good night of sleep.
grindC
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany274 Posts
June 22 2012 07:45 GMT
#46755
On June 22 2012 16:38 Koshi wrote:

+ Show Spoiler +
No Sharktosis


Good one :D

Something I kept wondering about... wasn't QXC on a couple of times in the last few episodes? He'd be a good choice for a Terran guest,if there is something 'terrany' to discuss.
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
June 22 2012 07:54 GMT
#46756
i nominate demuslim just so EG can brutally take over SOTG.
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
Surgical_Strike
Profile Joined April 2012
United States72 Posts
June 22 2012 08:02 GMT
#46757
This last show made me rage... I cant explain how badly i wanted to "shove a chairseat" (whatever the f*ck that is) down Incontrols throat. Its one of a couple "news" shows that I watch for starcraft... and as a news show it should be somewhat balanced on racial views. I mean would you want to watch a news show where every anchor and guest hated on a part of society would you? Incontroll was probably the worst, and he is a pretty outspoken balance whiner with protoss. But, what probably upsets me the most is Artosis because of the position that he holds in our scene. What Artosis says actually helps to form the anti terran (TERRAN OP) opinions that fill this community.
Anything worth doing, is worth doing right.
BlitzerSC
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy8800 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-22 08:19:06
June 22 2012 08:04 GMT
#46758
On June 22 2012 09:53 tranmillitary wrote:
You guys gotta remember.. in the foreign scene... there are few good Terrans. Our best players are mostly zerg and protoss players. Stephano/nani/Huk....... we have no elite Terrans... Thorzain is the closest.


Aren't Thorzain and Demuslim at the EG house ? Pretty sure that both of them are better than Artosis/Tyler (no offence but it's the truth).

But, to be 100% honest, I don't really care if there is a Terran player on the show or not as long as they try to be as impartial as possible during balance discussions.

On June 22 2012 06:37 heaven- wrote:
I watched the show but did not pay any attention to chat or w/e, to me it seems that inControl is a bit insulting towards terran players honestly.....
Its possible it was meant in a different way, but he essentially said "theres no terran in this show, shut the fuck up about it"


Are you kidding me ? Incontrol is insulting towards terrans ? Why people don't understand that that's the way Incontrol likes to do the show ? He is JOKING, you know... the things that actually makes people laugh. If you get offended by his affermation, then let me tell you that you should grow up. And this is coming from a terran player ( myself )
Surgical_Strike
Profile Joined April 2012
United States72 Posts
June 22 2012 08:05 GMT
#46759
Demuslim would be a great addition content wise. Also easy to get on the show... and hes better at starcraft then all the current members. Great idea. They need someone that at least knows how Terran works in sc2 so when they say sh*t thats not even reasonable they can get checked.
Anything worth doing, is worth doing right.
zefreak
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States2731 Posts
June 22 2012 08:31 GMT
#46760
It's a talk show, not a 'news show' where everything has to be objective and have counterpoint. JP can do whatever he likes with the show. They are buddies that enjoy talking starcraft, and including someone just because they are terran would be stupid.
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