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Official State of the Game Podcast Thread - Page 2246

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NeonFox
Profile Joined January 2011
2373 Posts
May 13 2012 14:25 GMT
#44901
Someone who has the experience he has should know that the vocal minority is always louder than the approving masses. I do hope he realizes that 90% of the "community" likes what he does.
zaii
Profile Joined October 2010
Guam2611 Posts
May 13 2012 14:47 GMT
#44902
On May 13 2012 23:25 NeonFox wrote:
Someone who has the experience he has should know that the vocal minority is always louder than the approving masses. I do hope he realizes that 90% of the "community" likes what he does.


That's a made up number right?
howLiN
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Portugal1676 Posts
May 13 2012 14:49 GMT
#44903
On May 13 2012 23:47 zaii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2012 23:25 NeonFox wrote:
Someone who has the experience he has should know that the vocal minority is always louder than the approving masses. I do hope he realizes that 90% of the "community" likes what he does.


That's a made up number right?

73% of statistics are made up.
PhoenixDark
Profile Joined March 2011
United States286 Posts
May 13 2012 14:53 GMT
#44904
My problem with the episode is more to do with the poor audio quality due to being rushed, which going into the general problem here: the internet/blog obsession with being "first." Everyone acknowledged this news pretty much leaked awhile ago, and everyone knew about it. I don't see why JP had to rush a show for an interview with Sundance...on a phone...on a train...in NY (or wherever) and thus audio problems. Why not wait until he got home, or was ready to give a short interview with no potential tech problems? So much of internet/blog news is rushed out to be first on the market that the overall product suffers - this isn't just the case for videogame stuff, but political news, sports, etc.

In terms of people complaining about only InControl being on...come on. Not every episode features every cast member, and this was a "special" edition of the podcast. Let's face it, SOTG has basically been State of MLG for months, that's nothing new.

I'm neutral on JP. Seems like a nice dude but I gotta ask: why do you give a shit what 90% of the community thinks? Like any online community, SC2's is full of idiots. I see no point in getting upset over their ridiculous complaints. You are the show manager, people like your show. If they didn't like this one episode, who gives a shit - it was a specicial, different occasation.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=435469
KanoCoke
Profile Joined June 2011
Japan863 Posts
May 13 2012 14:54 GMT
#44905
Duh. They know. It doesn't change the fact that the vocal minority can say some really hurtful things or even curse your family and friends and whatnot. Haters like to get things personal, and a lot of sane people would get angry if the hate went a little too personal.

Take for example someone posting an art piece. Of course there'll be critics alongside the admirers, but you also tend to have people that hate every fiber of your being either for no reason, or for simple reasons like you missed a spot while shading, or some colors around the edges overlap, or the nose doesn't look right, or even more trivial stuff like because you misspelled something or because you're a Taurus or a Snake and such.

There's just a lot of really unreasonable people on the internet, and even the most thick-skinned people have a limit when it comes to handling all the abuse that they hurl.
Will always cheer for: MMA Bomber Taeja Curious Life herO Zest
frogrubdown
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
1266 Posts
May 13 2012 15:02 GMT
#44906
On May 13 2012 23:47 zaii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2012 23:25 NeonFox wrote:
Someone who has the experience he has should know that the vocal minority is always louder than the approving masses. I do hope he realizes that 90% of the "community" likes what he does.


That's a made up number right?


Poll: Do you like what JP does?

Yes (635)
 
61%

No (404)
 
39%

1039 total votes

Your vote: Do you like what JP does?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No



Let's find out.
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
May 13 2012 15:04 GMT
#44907
because people who read this page of this thread will tell you anything about the majority.
Jojo131
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil1631 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-13 15:20:59
May 13 2012 15:13 GMT
#44908
Oh the days when people were grateful for the free content that they voluntarily chose watch, how I miss them so.
I feel like I'm the only person who thinks eSports is fine the way it is, and that all this "growth" seems to only damage our community.
FaZe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada472 Posts
May 13 2012 15:24 GMT
#44909
Even community figures are human.

People across the board need to stop judging, and start supporting.

I'm not saying always be butterflies and rainbows - some of the best things that have been said to me in my life have been pieces of constructive criticism. I just think that some of the more socially inept comments could definitely benefit from some tact.

JP has given years of his life to us, no matter what he puts out - I respect the work he does.
"Victory needs no explanation; defeat allows none."
MrTortoise
Profile Joined January 2011
1388 Posts
May 13 2012 15:31 GMT
#44910
On May 14 2012 00:04 turdburgler wrote:
because people who read this page of this thread will tell you anything about the majority.


If everyone used that logic nobody would do anything ever
Atlas247
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada318 Posts
May 13 2012 16:41 GMT
#44911
On May 14 2012 00:02 frogrubdown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2012 23:47 zaii wrote:
On May 13 2012 23:25 NeonFox wrote:
Someone who has the experience he has should know that the vocal minority is always louder than the approving masses. I do hope he realizes that 90% of the "community" likes what he does.


That's a made up number right?


Poll: Do you like what JP does?

Yes (635)
 
61%

No (404)
 
39%

1039 total votes

Your vote: Do you like what JP does?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No



Let's find out.


You still won't get an accurate figure
Windex Banana Lampshade
FreudianTrip
Profile Joined July 2011
Switzerland1983 Posts
May 13 2012 16:48 GMT
#44912
On May 13 2012 23:18 KanoCoke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2012 22:56 FreudianTrip wrote:
I remember when someone expressing the opinion that something was a bit shitty wasn't 'drama' it was just people discussing what they thought. People's lives must be fucking boring if they consider this drama.

"What did you think of that new Bond movie?"
"It was ok but when they did that zoom-in of the watch I thought it was a joke. Product placement like that is sad."
"OMGZ DUDE WHY YOU CREATING DRAMA JAMES BOND IS GREAT!"
"..."

You've missed the point entirely. Like Shaquille O'Neil missing his free-throw.

The point was that JP got pissed after some asshole decided it was a good idea to PM him with hate mail, and that JP lashed out in this thread after another person wrote a dumb comment that he saw as soon as he entered this thread. To put it simply, he snapped.

He has then apologized for generalizing his audience (us) as mostly stupid whining idiots or whatever he previously wrote, as he recognized the fact that this wasn't true.

I don't think you actually read through the thread, or at least read the posts regarding this whole matter.


Whats that got to do with calling this drama?
da_head
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada3350 Posts
May 13 2012 16:48 GMT
#44913
keep up the good work bro. fuck the haters.
When they see MC Probe, all the ladies disrobe.
Scootaloo
Profile Joined January 2012
655 Posts
May 13 2012 17:05 GMT
#44914
People, grow the fuck up.

The damn episode wasn't even listed as one, just a special, JP was saying how he didn't have the time to do one this week, comes up with a last minute half hour special anyway dealing with a pretty important anouncement for our scene and you people actually have the gal to complain about it not being like a normal episode enough? Well no shit, they had 2 of the SotG guys there, no proper setup and everyone had more important things to do for the time they would normally use planning the show.

And about the Sundance interview, stop venting your rage you have for that man on JP, why the hell do you think Incontrol did the interview? JP works for the man, he can't ask him awkward questions because he's his freaking boss, do you honestly want him to have pushed on all the questions Incontrol asked that where not answered properly and endanger his own godamn job? If you go back in the SotG archive they actually have an episode where they directly state that they all have their obligations, Incontrol can't make any controversial statements about EG, Tyler can't about Liquid and Artosis can't about GSL, this is all perfectly sensible because these people have CONTRACTS they have to adhere to, why is JP being connected to MLG so hard to understand?

JP, keep doing a great job, if it wasn't MLG it was about they would not have had this idiotic backlash, sadly enough Sundance with some rather poor handling of the situation turned himself into the representative for PPV, which I would call the most controversial subject since the start of SC2, sadly enough this won't be the last time something like this is likely to happen, I hope you learn to deal with it with less emotion in the future, hard as that might be.
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
May 13 2012 17:20 GMT
#44915
I really think the majority of comments whenever a drama comes up on TL are against the fact that there's drama, and basically making fun of the people getting their panties bunched, which is very heartening to see.
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
May 13 2012 17:45 GMT
#44916
The early SotG was essentially just... JP suddenly decides to skype a few friends and they talk whatever the hell they want, record it and put it up as an MP3 - for whoever the hell wishes to listen. Indier than ever, and still the best SotG, gaining rapidly fans and audience.

IMHO, JP is a genius at such stuff, I fully trust in his instinct.
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
vanhio
Profile Joined November 2010
Niue1017 Posts
May 13 2012 17:49 GMT
#44917
On May 14 2012 00:02 frogrubdown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2012 23:47 zaii wrote:
On May 13 2012 23:25 NeonFox wrote:
Someone who has the experience he has should know that the vocal minority is always louder than the approving masses. I do hope he realizes that 90% of the "community" likes what he does.


That's a made up number right?


Poll: Do you like what JP does?

Yes (635)
 
61%

No (404)
 
39%

1039 total votes

Your vote: Do you like what JP does?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No



Let's find out.



Well, the WHOLE community its not here(TL), and the Whole community doesnt post in forums. So even if you get 2000 votes its not objective.
RogerChillingworth
Profile Joined March 2010
Chad3101 Posts
May 13 2012 18:05 GMT
#44918
dudes...the score has been settled. jp overreacted and apologized accordingly. don't think this needs to be harped on anymore.
BlueFlames
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany1756 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-13 18:27:24
May 13 2012 18:26 GMT
#44919
On May 14 2012 02:49 vanhio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2012 00:02 frogrubdown wrote:
On May 13 2012 23:47 zaii wrote:
On May 13 2012 23:25 NeonFox wrote:
Someone who has the experience he has should know that the vocal minority is always louder than the approving masses. I do hope he realizes that 90% of the "community" likes what he does.


That's a made up number right?


Poll: Do you like what JP does?

Yes (635)
 
61%

No (404)
 
39%

1039 total votes

Your vote: Do you like what JP does?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No



Let's find out.



Well, the WHOLE community its not here(TL), and the Whole community doesnt post in forums. So even if you get 2000 votes its not objective.


Sure that is how opinion polls work. You ask everyone of a certain group and than you know the general opinion. If you dont ask everyone those polls are worthless right?
Jesus people. Everyone has a bad day. JP overreacted to a jerk`s pm by beeing a jerk in generelizing his whole fanbase. He admitted that. Lets take this part out of the equation now. People still harping on about this should be charged with spending 2 day without the internet for a sense of reality.
The rest of the people that tried to have a discussion about the content of SOTG or its quality can continue without beeing butthurt by JP`s post and the fanboys can crawl back under their white horse and stop preaching about the awesomeness of everything that is STOG even its excrements, maybe we can get a real discussion going here.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
May 13 2012 18:28 GMT
#44920
Don't worry JP, I like what you do and you are a great person :3
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
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