EPTOfficial State of the Game Podcast Thread - Page 1760
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PlosionCornu
Italy814 Posts
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Mohdoo
United States15743 Posts
On November 03 2011 05:15 itmeJP wrote: Just to squash debate, this was posted in the Reddit SotG thread. Doesn't need to be discussed further  http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/lxeug/state_of_the_game_55_vod_download_links/c2wi9yt Thank you for having such a mature outlook on the situation. It would definitely seem that whatever method you use, there are much faster methods out there. Not trying to hate, just saying how it seems. I think that the simple NATURE of a show like SOTG is that the perceived value of the show decreases exponentially over time as an episode gets older. People like to be able to discuss the things said on the show ASAP. Another thing to consider is that with SOTG getting more and more popular, the value of seeing it ASAP gets even bigger. If there comes a time when non-official methods of watching SOTG VODs is both quicker and more reliable, it will become the standard method of watching SOTG VODs for a lot of people (because they NEED to see it as soon as possible), much in the same way that people will often pirate music, even after they buy a CD, since it is the most efficient/easy method. But I mean, MLG has a lot more resources than a dude at his house. I don't think that MLG's delay in getting VODs up is a matter of capacity, but rather a matter of method. I appreciate you looking for ways to get these VODs up as fast as possible. yay JP! \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ ^ Crowd of people cheering for SOTG | ||
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fant0m
964 Posts
I missed Artosis, but I think Inc+Idra+Artosis+Day9+X (generally Tyler) should be a part of every SotG. Artosis is mandatory though, we *need* that "on the ground" opinion from Korea/GSL. | ||
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Cuce
Turkey1127 Posts
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Defacer
Canada5052 Posts
On November 03 2011 08:46 fant0m wrote: Incontrol did a great job. I missed Artosis, but I think Inc+Idra+Artosis+Day9+X (generally Tyler) should be a part of every SotG. Artosis is mandatory though, we *need* that "on the ground" opinion from Korea/GSL. InControl did great, but I like him better as a guest than a host (gives him more license to be funny). Good pitch-hitting though. | ||
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Heraklitus
United States553 Posts
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HystericaLaughter
Australia720 Posts
EDIT: Nevermind fixed it | ||
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xtfftc
United Kingdom2343 Posts
On November 03 2011 09:32 Defacer wrote: InControl did great, but I like him better as a guest than a host (gives him more license to be funny). Good pitch-hitting though. I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought this. Incontrol did an okay job as a host but he is a much better pillar... Of course, this was just one show - if he hosts a bunch of shows, he'll get better at it, and perhaps as good as JP is. But the thing is that he can't be host and the usual Incontrol in the same time. | ||
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marttorn
Norway5211 Posts
That's certainly not to say he was a bad host whatsoever, he did really amazing, but JP is more suited for it ^^; | ||
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Velr
Switzerland10907 Posts
On November 03 2011 05:15 itmeJP wrote: Just to squash debate, this was posted in the Reddit SotG thread. Doesn't need to be discussed further http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/lxeug/state_of_the_game_55_vod_download_links/c2wi9yt The reason we can continue to make the show free and improve the production is due directly to the support from MLG. Hum... That answer strikes me at funny (the first part) Sotg grew big when it was: Advertisment free and not sponsored. Now it is sponsored by MLG, which seems to mean: It now has advertisements/breaks, is uploaded later and sometimes feels like one big MLG commercial.. So, you deliver an actually worse product since MLG is involved and it is suddenly required to watch it on MLG to make SOTG possible? Ahm.. Lol? Did you actually think about this for a second before you typed that masterpiece of PR bullshit? I mean, how do all these other streamers handle their streams whiteout having a big ass company in the background (probably by not having their format sold out)? Btw: I wonder where that money goes that MLG puts in.. It sure as hell does not look expensive (and it does not have to, i liked it the way it was and i'm ok with it the way it is now). I have absoluetly no problem with you and the others making money from it... But seriously why don't you just say that you want to earn money and therefore, logically, are against pirating it... | ||
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Stijn
Netherlands363 Posts
I have absoluetly no problem with you and the others making money from it... But seriously why don't you just say that you want to earn money and therefore, logically, are against pirating it... JP isn't in the same situation as before he was hired by MLG, so that might as well change stuff about whether he can make MLG. Making a SOTG is a good few hours work, who knows, maybe JP is busy enough at his new job that he can't afford to do SOTG in his free time anymore? You're jumping to conclusions a bit too quickly... | ||
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Velr
Switzerland10907 Posts
Not having time for SOTG due to being hired by MLG which now owns SOTG which hired you mainly because of SOTG would not exactly make sense, don't you think? . | ||
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Tofugrinder
Austria899 Posts
For me personally I hope that the show is uploaded when I get home from work on wednesdays (show ends at about 7am I think). If that's impossible for MLG then if's of course fine too, it's a free content and I won't complain about it. I personally just don't like listening to an mp3 or waiting a few days when some discussions might not be interesting any more. So as an Stotg fan I hope they find a solution to upload it within the first 8-10 hrs and if that's impossible it's of course too I won't just watch every episode. | ||
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Matkap
Spain627 Posts
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Nash
151 Posts
Not only that but he seems kinda jaded and not interested in anything that doesn't have to do with him. I mean, for a person that even has problems doing duo casts because he wants all the attention for himself, being one of four or five isn't really ideal. I know I'd be happy if he was replaced with someone who is actually interested in the game and has enough guts to speak his mind about things and doesn't see himself as a little bit better than everyone else. | ||
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marttorn
Norway5211 Posts
On November 03 2011 21:10 Nash wrote: I'm a little curious how Day9 is allowed leave _every_ single time. Surely since SOTG became a property of MLG all the pillars must be paid for their time? If they don't I'm shocked at how they willingly agree to advertise for a company without getting paid for it. Anyway, I would imagine the deal is that they take the time it needs for the show and get compensated for that time, yet Day9 leaves an hour or two in every time. I don't know, it's just weird. Not only that but he seems kinda jaded and not interested in anything that doesn't have to do with him. I mean, for a person that even has problems doing duo casts because he wants all the attention for himself, being one of four or five isn't really ideal. I know I'd be happy if he was replaced with someone who is actually interested in the game and has enough guts to speak his mind about things and doesn't see himself as a little bit better than everyone else. He has problems doing duo casts because he wants the attention himself? Do you have any source or reason to believe that? He talked avidly and excitedly about the new HoTS units, and in case you haven't noticed, he kind of dedicated his entire life to Starcraft and has an incredibly busy schedule. We're lucky he even gets to show up to SotG at all. Sure, it sucks that he has to leave early but I don't see the reason to paint him as this semi-narcissistic douche who just wants attention, when his 370 odd 1-hour long shows all about how to get better at this game (and BW) say quite the opposite. He's really done more for the scene than you can imagine, and it's kind of disrespectful to claim otherwise, or claim that he's in it for the fame or something. I don't want to come off as rude, but I think that's the reality of it  | ||
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Teiwaz
Austria158 Posts
On November 03 2011 21:10 Nash wrote: Not only that but he seems kinda jaded and not interested in anything that doesn't have to do with him. I mean, for a person that even has problems doing duo casts because he wants all the attention for himself, being one of four or five isn't really ideal. I know I'd be happy if he was replaced with someone who is actually interested in the game and has enough guts to speak his mind about things and doesn't see himself as a little bit better than everyone else. Hwat? o.O If this isn't just a really bad troll attempt... | ||
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Nash
151 Posts
On November 03 2011 21:17 marttorn wrote: He has problems doing duo casts because he wants the attention himself? Do you have any source or reason to believe that? My source is all his duo casts. Have you ever seen him take the backseat in a duo cast? Would you say he speaks 1) The most or 2) The least? He talked avidly and excitedly about the new HoTS units Lol what? He literally says "I don't know" and "I don't care" to almost all of them. He has no opinions and doesn't even seem to know what a Battle Hellion is. and in case you haven't noticed, he kind of dedicated his entire life to Starcraft and has an incredibly busy schedule. So don't be on the show then if you have such a busy schedule. We're lucky he even gets to show up to SotG at all. Sure, it sucks that he has to leave early but I don't see the reason to paint him as this semi-narcissistic douche who just wants attention, when his 370 odd 1-hour long shows all about how to get better at this game (and BW) say quite the opposite. Yeah his one-man show clearly contradicts any claims of narcissism. He's really done more for the scene than you can imagine, and it's kind of disrespectful to claim otherwise, or claim that he's in it for the fame or something. I don't want to come off as rude, but I think that's the reality of it Don't really see how that is relevant. | ||
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marttorn
Norway5211 Posts
On November 03 2011 21:29 Nash wrote: My source is all his duo casts. Have you ever seen him take the backseat in a duo cast? Would you say he speaks 1) The most or 2) The least? Lol what? He literally says "I don't know" and "I don't care" to almost all of them. He has no opinions and doesn't even seem to know what a Battle Hellion is. So don't be on the show then if you have such a busy schedule. Yeah his one-man show clearly contradicts any claims of narcissism. Don't really see how that is relevant. I don't think there's any point getting into a big argument over this, but it's rather frustrating when someone who cannot ever hope to contribute nearly as much blatantly disrespects someone who has put in so many man-hours into providing free content for the masses and make people better at this game. But hell, here it goes: The point was that he has dedicated well over 400 hours (and that's just in the dailies) to helping people in this game. Who really cares if it's solo? Who else could be with him on this show? Suggestions? He was actually at blizzcon and tested these units himself (he also casted blizzcon, I'll get to that in a sec), he talked about the new units and weighed in on them, but he didn't want to predict anything about balance, which I think is entirely fair that he doesn't want to presume something about an expansion that's probably not even near release. He has some time to be on SotG, so why not? I don't presume to speak for Day9, but he obviously wants to be on the show. As for casting, he has also casted at (as far as I know) every single MLG so far. That means traveling out to wherever the MLG is, doing a TON of fan signings and greetings, and not least he has to talk and cast for hours upon hours at a time (he's mentioned this before, his voice is basically shot after every big event like that). As for who talks most in his duo casts, there's absolutely 0 point to arguing that because no matter what I say you'll just say no, and say what you think (this generally goes for every argument like this). Ok, i'm not going to bother with this "argument" any more, I just needed to get that out. | ||
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Velr
Switzerland10907 Posts
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