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On November 02 2011 21:49 Shelke14 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2011 21:48 FreudianTrip wrote:On November 02 2011 21:12 Matkap wrote:On November 02 2011 21:10 Shelke14 wrote:On November 02 2011 20:28 Jakkerr wrote:On November 02 2011 20:15 Danglars wrote:On November 02 2011 20:14 smitty5569 wrote:On November 02 2011 19:33 Lorch wrote:
Ah well pirates saving my day, thanks SotgPirate, sorry mlg, I'll let it run in the background when it's up on mlg so you guys get your precious views. It's not pirating if it's free anyways.  Think of all the lost advertising revenue! That's not our fault, that's MLG's fault  Are you joking here? Isn't that just like saying its movie companies fault for letting their movies be filmed and put on the internet? Next thing your going to say is they make enough money and one less view isn't going to hurt them. EDIT: Personally I hope the person who posted the stream rip on here gets perma-banned. But I'm a nobody and most likely wrong, just my thoughts. Not the same thing, MLG is beeing greedy and inefficient here. Ok you people are really clueless, so lets get some facts straight: it is NOT pirating, as the the guy who uploaded it is NOT making any profit at all, and that is the big difference. Hate to break it to you. It's still pirating. Reloaded and Skidrow don't make profit off ripping Battlefield 3, it's still pirating. But let's have some real talk here from the man, the legend, Gabe Newell who has repeatedly said (I'm paraphrasing) ,"If the pirates provide a better service, we deserve to lose." It's that simple. What was the Justice system thinking.... They should be in contact with Gabe Newell when assessing pirating laws... Come on..
iTunes came out, pirating dropped massively. Spotify came out, pirating stats dropped. Youtube became popular, pirating stats dropped. Valve started releasing games day 1 in Russian and Russia went from their largest pirated market to their 2nd most valuable European market. It's simples.
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Uhm...
Sotg was live streamed for free, right?
So why is it pirating if i show it again for free?
When i take a record from the radio or "tape" something from TV and play it "to my friends" it's also not illegal? :p
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On November 02 2011 21:57 Velr wrote:
Uhm...
Sotg was live streamed for free, right?
So why is it pirating if i show it again for free?
When i take a record from the radio or "tape" something from TV and play it "to my friends" it's also not illegal? :p
Recording a show and putting it on the Internet IS illegal. Massive difference between recording something on TV for friends and opening distributing it to the masses
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On November 02 2011 21:56 FreudianTrip wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2011 21:49 Shelke14 wrote:On November 02 2011 21:48 FreudianTrip wrote:On November 02 2011 21:12 Matkap wrote:On November 02 2011 21:10 Shelke14 wrote:On November 02 2011 20:28 Jakkerr wrote:On November 02 2011 20:15 Danglars wrote:On November 02 2011 20:14 smitty5569 wrote:On November 02 2011 19:33 Lorch wrote:
Ah well pirates saving my day, thanks SotgPirate, sorry mlg, I'll let it run in the background when it's up on mlg so you guys get your precious views. It's not pirating if it's free anyways. Think of all the lost advertising revenue! That's not our fault, that's MLG's fault Are you joking here? Isn't that just like saying its movie companies fault for letting their movies be filmed and put on the internet? Next thing your going to say is they make enough money and one less view isn't going to hurt them. EDIT: Personally I hope the person who posted the stream rip on here gets perma-banned. But I'm a nobody and most likely wrong, just my thoughts. Not the same thing, MLG is beeing greedy and inefficient here. Ok you people are really clueless, so lets get some facts straight: it is NOT pirating, as the the guy who uploaded it is NOT making any profit at all, and that is the big difference. Hate to break it to you. It's still pirating. Reloaded and Skidrow don't make profit off ripping Battlefield 3, it's still pirating. But let's have some real talk here from the man, the legend, Gabe Newell who has repeatedly said (I'm paraphrasing) ,"If the pirates provide a better service, we deserve to lose." It's that simple. What was the Justice system thinking.... They should be in contact with Gabe Newell when assessing pirating laws... Come on.. iTunes came out, pirating dropped massively. Spotify came out, pirating stats dropped. Youtube became popular, pirating stats dropped. Valve started releasing games day 1 in Russian and Russia went from their largest pirated market to their 2nd most valuable European market. It's simples.
Massively =/= zero. Pirating stats dropped =/= zero. Youtube popularity =/= zero. I think you get where I am getting at. You are attempting to suggest that since LEGAL ways to purchase products should mean that pirating a show that takes 20 hours longer than some people want means they should steal it. I'm sorry but I don't follow that logic man.
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All my posts are of course with regards too what the guy is actually doing is illegal. I do not know American law, so I of course could be totally wrong and this whole thing could make me look like a complete asshole.
fyi
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On November 02 2011 21:57 Velr wrote:
Uhm...
Sotg was live streamed for free, right?
So why is it pirating if i show it again for free?
When i take a record from the radio or "tape" something from TV and play it "to my friends" it's also not illegal? :p
It is illegal since MLG looses traffic because of it. The whole point of it being hosted on their site was brand and platform exposure. If I remember correctly, SotG hosts are being paid for participating, production of the show uses MLG technical infrastructure. So at some point the show has to return on profit.
On the other hand, it's not like the industry has discovered the Internet a day ago. It's not like piracy is a brand new phenomenon. All there is to say is that certain companies "get it", have moved on and dealt with it correctly, while others haven't.
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On November 02 2011 21:56 FreudianTrip wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2011 21:49 Shelke14 wrote:On November 02 2011 21:48 FreudianTrip wrote:On November 02 2011 21:12 Matkap wrote:On November 02 2011 21:10 Shelke14 wrote:On November 02 2011 20:28 Jakkerr wrote:On November 02 2011 20:15 Danglars wrote:On November 02 2011 20:14 smitty5569 wrote:On November 02 2011 19:33 Lorch wrote:
Ah well pirates saving my day, thanks SotgPirate, sorry mlg, I'll let it run in the background when it's up on mlg so you guys get your precious views. It's not pirating if it's free anyways. Think of all the lost advertising revenue! That's not our fault, that's MLG's fault Are you joking here? Isn't that just like saying its movie companies fault for letting their movies be filmed and put on the internet? Next thing your going to say is they make enough money and one less view isn't going to hurt them. EDIT: Personally I hope the person who posted the stream rip on here gets perma-banned. But I'm a nobody and most likely wrong, just my thoughts. Not the same thing, MLG is beeing greedy and inefficient here. Ok you people are really clueless, so lets get some facts straight: it is NOT pirating, as the the guy who uploaded it is NOT making any profit at all, and that is the big difference. Hate to break it to you. It's still pirating. Reloaded and Skidrow don't make profit off ripping Battlefield 3, it's still pirating. But let's have some real talk here from the man, the legend, Gabe Newell who has repeatedly said (I'm paraphrasing) ,"If the pirates provide a better service, we deserve to lose." It's that simple. What was the Justice system thinking.... They should be in contact with Gabe Newell when assessing pirating laws... Come on.. iTunes came out, pirating dropped massively. Spotify came out, pirating stats dropped. Youtube became popular, pirating stats dropped. Valve started releasing games day 1 in Russian and Russia went from their largest pirated market to their 2nd most valuable European market. It's simples.
Pretty much this. As long as you allow pirates to get things out better and faster and more reliably, pirating is going to happen.
I'd love to show support for SoTG as an independent / community project that it used to be originally. However now that they're basically an MLG show, it's just another product and I don't really feel the need to support MLG if it's inconvenient for me.
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On November 02 2011 21:57 Velr wrote:
Uhm...
Sotg was live streamed for free, right?
So why is it pirating if i show it again for free?
When i take a record from the radio or "tape" something from TV and play it "to my friends" it's also not illegal? :p
Technically, yes. However, it's so hard to prove that it's pointless. Notice on any DVD you buy it says you can't show it on an oilrig or in schools. You need to buy a more expensive version that's licensed to show it to multiple people.
On November 02 2011 22:03 Shelke14 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2011 21:56 FreudianTrip wrote:On November 02 2011 21:49 Shelke14 wrote:On November 02 2011 21:48 FreudianTrip wrote:On November 02 2011 21:12 Matkap wrote:On November 02 2011 21:10 Shelke14 wrote:On November 02 2011 20:28 Jakkerr wrote:On November 02 2011 20:15 Danglars wrote:On November 02 2011 20:14 smitty5569 wrote:On November 02 2011 19:33 Lorch wrote:
Ah well pirates saving my day, thanks SotgPirate, sorry mlg, I'll let it run in the background when it's up on mlg so you guys get your precious views. It's not pirating if it's free anyways. Think of all the lost advertising revenue! That's not our fault, that's MLG's fault Are you joking here? Isn't that just like saying its movie companies fault for letting their movies be filmed and put on the internet? Next thing your going to say is they make enough money and one less view isn't going to hurt them. EDIT: Personally I hope the person who posted the stream rip on here gets perma-banned. But I'm a nobody and most likely wrong, just my thoughts. Not the same thing, MLG is beeing greedy and inefficient here. Ok you people are really clueless, so lets get some facts straight: it is NOT pirating, as the the guy who uploaded it is NOT making any profit at all, and that is the big difference. Hate to break it to you. It's still pirating. Reloaded and Skidrow don't make profit off ripping Battlefield 3, it's still pirating. But let's have some real talk here from the man, the legend, Gabe Newell who has repeatedly said (I'm paraphrasing) ,"If the pirates provide a better service, we deserve to lose." It's that simple. What was the Justice system thinking.... They should be in contact with Gabe Newell when assessing pirating laws... Come on.. iTunes came out, pirating dropped massively. Spotify came out, pirating stats dropped. Youtube became popular, pirating stats dropped. Valve started releasing games day 1 in Russian and Russia went from their largest pirated market to their 2nd most valuable European market. It's simples. Massively =/= zero. Pirating stats dropped =/= zero. Youtube popularity =/= zero. I think you get where I am getting at. You are attempting to suggest that since LEGAL ways to purchase products should mean that pirating a show that takes 20 hours longer than some people want means they should steal it. I'm sorry but I don't follow that logic man.
Are you missing my point on purpouse so you can argue endlessly with me or what?
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On November 02 2011 22:06 Talin wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2011 21:56 FreudianTrip wrote:On November 02 2011 21:49 Shelke14 wrote:On November 02 2011 21:48 FreudianTrip wrote:On November 02 2011 21:12 Matkap wrote:On November 02 2011 21:10 Shelke14 wrote:On November 02 2011 20:28 Jakkerr wrote:On November 02 2011 20:15 Danglars wrote:On November 02 2011 20:14 smitty5569 wrote:On November 02 2011 19:33 Lorch wrote:
Ah well pirates saving my day, thanks SotgPirate, sorry mlg, I'll let it run in the background when it's up on mlg so you guys get your precious views. It's not pirating if it's free anyways. Think of all the lost advertising revenue! That's not our fault, that's MLG's fault Are you joking here? Isn't that just like saying its movie companies fault for letting their movies be filmed and put on the internet? Next thing your going to say is they make enough money and one less view isn't going to hurt them. EDIT: Personally I hope the person who posted the stream rip on here gets perma-banned. But I'm a nobody and most likely wrong, just my thoughts. Not the same thing, MLG is beeing greedy and inefficient here. Ok you people are really clueless, so lets get some facts straight: it is NOT pirating, as the the guy who uploaded it is NOT making any profit at all, and that is the big difference. Hate to break it to you. It's still pirating. Reloaded and Skidrow don't make profit off ripping Battlefield 3, it's still pirating. But let's have some real talk here from the man, the legend, Gabe Newell who has repeatedly said (I'm paraphrasing) ,"If the pirates provide a better service, we deserve to lose." It's that simple. What was the Justice system thinking.... They should be in contact with Gabe Newell when assessing pirating laws... Come on.. iTunes came out, pirating dropped massively. Spotify came out, pirating stats dropped. Youtube became popular, pirating stats dropped. Valve started releasing games day 1 in Russian and Russia went from their largest pirated market to their 2nd most valuable European market. It's simples. Pretty much this. As long as you allow pirates to get things out better and faster and more reliably, pirating is going to happen. I'd love to show support for SoTG as an independent / community project that it used to be originally. However now that they're basically an MLG show, it's just another product and I don't really feel the need to support MLG if it's inconvenient for me.
Your logic actually works that way.......................
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On November 02 2011 22:09 FreudianTrip wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2011 21:57 Velr wrote:
Uhm...
Sotg was live streamed for free, right?
So why is it pirating if i show it again for free?
When i take a record from the radio or "tape" something from TV and play it "to my friends" it's also not illegal? :p Technically, yes. However, it's so hard to prove that it's pointless. Notice on any DVD you buy it says you can't show it on an oilrig or in schools. You need to buy a more expensive version that's licensed to show it to multiple people. Show nested quote +On November 02 2011 22:03 Shelke14 wrote:On November 02 2011 21:56 FreudianTrip wrote:On November 02 2011 21:49 Shelke14 wrote:On November 02 2011 21:48 FreudianTrip wrote:On November 02 2011 21:12 Matkap wrote:On November 02 2011 21:10 Shelke14 wrote:On November 02 2011 20:28 Jakkerr wrote:On November 02 2011 20:15 Danglars wrote:On November 02 2011 20:14 smitty5569 wrote:[quote] It's not pirating if it's free anyways. Think of all the lost advertising revenue! That's not our fault, that's MLG's fault Are you joking here? Isn't that just like saying its movie companies fault for letting their movies be filmed and put on the internet? Next thing your going to say is they make enough money and one less view isn't going to hurt them. EDIT: Personally I hope the person who posted the stream rip on here gets perma-banned. But I'm a nobody and most likely wrong, just my thoughts. Not the same thing, MLG is beeing greedy and inefficient here. Ok you people are really clueless, so lets get some facts straight: it is NOT pirating, as the the guy who uploaded it is NOT making any profit at all, and that is the big difference. Hate to break it to you. It's still pirating. Reloaded and Skidrow don't make profit off ripping Battlefield 3, it's still pirating. But let's have some real talk here from the man, the legend, Gabe Newell who has repeatedly said (I'm paraphrasing) ,"If the pirates provide a better service, we deserve to lose." It's that simple. What was the Justice system thinking.... They should be in contact with Gabe Newell when assessing pirating laws... Come on.. iTunes came out, pirating dropped massively. Spotify came out, pirating stats dropped. Youtube became popular, pirating stats dropped. Valve started releasing games day 1 in Russian and Russia went from their largest pirated market to their 2nd most valuable European market. It's simples. Massively =/= zero. Pirating stats dropped =/= zero. Youtube popularity =/= zero. I think you get where I am getting at. You are attempting to suggest that since LEGAL ways to purchase products should mean that pirating a show that takes 20 hours longer than some people want means they should steal it. I'm sorry but I don't follow that logic man. Are you missing my point on purpouse so you can argue endlessly with me or what?
I got your point. I'm just saying its flawed logic.
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iNcontroL is a fucking great host!
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If you are not doing it, someone else will...
With the big amount of hurt the live viewers put on MLGs sponsors, a few pirated downloads won't kill them. They are providing a poorer service now, so this was to be expected. I stoped watching the vod when it started to take several days to get done.
The badwill for this VODgate is probably bigger for MLG than some silly ego about it being on their website before they can do it in a way that is to be expected from the customers.
I have paid a membership to MLG, so I have no morals about using the pirated VOD.
Happy downloading!
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On November 02 2011 22:03 Shelke14 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2011 21:56 FreudianTrip wrote:On November 02 2011 21:49 Shelke14 wrote:On November 02 2011 21:48 FreudianTrip wrote:On November 02 2011 21:12 Matkap wrote:On November 02 2011 21:10 Shelke14 wrote:On November 02 2011 20:28 Jakkerr wrote:On November 02 2011 20:15 Danglars wrote:On November 02 2011 20:14 smitty5569 wrote:On November 02 2011 19:33 Lorch wrote:
Ah well pirates saving my day, thanks SotgPirate, sorry mlg, I'll let it run in the background when it's up on mlg so you guys get your precious views. It's not pirating if it's free anyways. Think of all the lost advertising revenue! That's not our fault, that's MLG's fault Are you joking here? Isn't that just like saying its movie companies fault for letting their movies be filmed and put on the internet? Next thing your going to say is they make enough money and one less view isn't going to hurt them. EDIT: Personally I hope the person who posted the stream rip on here gets perma-banned. But I'm a nobody and most likely wrong, just my thoughts. Not the same thing, MLG is beeing greedy and inefficient here. Ok you people are really clueless, so lets get some facts straight: it is NOT pirating, as the the guy who uploaded it is NOT making any profit at all, and that is the big difference. Hate to break it to you. It's still pirating. Reloaded and Skidrow don't make profit off ripping Battlefield 3, it's still pirating. But let's have some real talk here from the man, the legend, Gabe Newell who has repeatedly said (I'm paraphrasing) ,"If the pirates provide a better service, we deserve to lose." It's that simple. What was the Justice system thinking.... They should be in contact with Gabe Newell when assessing pirating laws... Come on.. iTunes came out, pirating dropped massively. Spotify came out, pirating stats dropped. Youtube became popular, pirating stats dropped. Valve started releasing games day 1 in Russian and Russia went from their largest pirated market to their 2nd most valuable European market. It's simples. Massively =/= zero. Pirating stats dropped =/= zero. Youtube popularity =/= zero. I think you get where I am getting at. You are attempting to suggest that since LEGAL ways to purchase products should mean that pirating a show that takes 20 hours longer than some people want means they should steal it. I'm sorry but I don't follow that logic man.
I don't think that's what he meant at all :/
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On November 02 2011 21:55 Matkap wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2011 21:46 Sneakyz wrote:On November 02 2011 21:12 Matkap wrote:On November 02 2011 21:10 Shelke14 wrote:On November 02 2011 20:28 Jakkerr wrote:On November 02 2011 20:15 Danglars wrote:On November 02 2011 20:14 smitty5569 wrote:On November 02 2011 19:33 Lorch wrote:
Ah well pirates saving my day, thanks SotgPirate, sorry mlg, I'll let it run in the background when it's up on mlg so you guys get your precious views. It's not pirating if it's free anyways. Think of all the lost advertising revenue! That's not our fault, that's MLG's fault Are you joking here? Isn't that just like saying its movie companies fault for letting their movies be filmed and put on the internet? Next thing your going to say is they make enough money and one less view isn't going to hurt them. EDIT: Personally I hope the person who posted the stream rip on here gets perma-banned. But I'm a nobody and most likely wrong, just my thoughts. it is NOT pirating, as the the guy who uploaded it is NOT making any profit at all, and that is the big difference. Wat? Wouldn't be much piracy in the world if everyone who uploaded something without making profit wasn't considered pirates? I've never even seen anyone making profit of pirated stuff. Show nested quote +On November 02 2011 21:46 Shelke14 wrote:
What about the people who download songs and movies illegally and do not sell them but then find themselves being sued (PLEASE correct me if I have this wrong). Doesn't this fall under the same thing because this guy is stopping MLG from making the money they deserve for providing the service? Well, maybe then thats pirating in USA, im not sure, in Spain at least and im pretty sure that its the same in all of Europe, that is not piracy
At least in Austria downloading is legal (or let's better call it "not illegal"), uploading is illegal. There are some sources (mostly government related) that'll tell you different though, but it's not true.
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On November 02 2011 21:57 Velr wrote:
Uhm...
Sotg was live streamed for free, right?
So why is it pirating if i show it again for free?
When i take a record from the radio or "tape" something from TV and play it "to my friends" it's also not illegal? :p
It's pretty simple actually.
Showing something to friends is private use and so it's fine.
Offering something to download is public use, which is not fine.
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Typical arguments for those trying to justify their own pirating. "It was free for me anyway," "MLG is a bad company/I don't like their product/service," "They're rich anyway," "We're just showing MLG how to do it right." You clearly are just choosing whatever flavor of argument suits your needs. In the end you're still stealing, still ignoring the importance and value of intellectualy property rights, and there's no way to justify it.
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On November 02 2011 22:03 Shelke14 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2011 21:56 FreudianTrip wrote:On November 02 2011 21:49 Shelke14 wrote:On November 02 2011 21:48 FreudianTrip wrote:On November 02 2011 21:12 Matkap wrote:On November 02 2011 21:10 Shelke14 wrote:On November 02 2011 20:28 Jakkerr wrote:On November 02 2011 20:15 Danglars wrote:On November 02 2011 20:14 smitty5569 wrote:On November 02 2011 19:33 Lorch wrote:
Ah well pirates saving my day, thanks SotgPirate, sorry mlg, I'll let it run in the background when it's up on mlg so you guys get your precious views. It's not pirating if it's free anyways. Think of all the lost advertising revenue! That's not our fault, that's MLG's fault Are you joking here? Isn't that just like saying its movie companies fault for letting their movies be filmed and put on the internet? Next thing your going to say is they make enough money and one less view isn't going to hurt them. EDIT: Personally I hope the person who posted the stream rip on here gets perma-banned. But I'm a nobody and most likely wrong, just my thoughts. Not the same thing, MLG is beeing greedy and inefficient here. Ok you people are really clueless, so lets get some facts straight: it is NOT pirating, as the the guy who uploaded it is NOT making any profit at all, and that is the big difference. Hate to break it to you. It's still pirating. Reloaded and Skidrow don't make profit off ripping Battlefield 3, it's still pirating. But let's have some real talk here from the man, the legend, Gabe Newell who has repeatedly said (I'm paraphrasing) ,"If the pirates provide a better service, we deserve to lose." It's that simple. What was the Justice system thinking.... They should be in contact with Gabe Newell when assessing pirating laws... Come on.. iTunes came out, pirating dropped massively. Spotify came out, pirating stats dropped. Youtube became popular, pirating stats dropped. Valve started releasing games day 1 in Russian and Russia went from their largest pirated market to their 2nd most valuable European market. It's simples. Massively =/= zero. Pirating stats dropped =/= zero. Youtube popularity =/= zero. I think you get where I am getting at. You are attempting to suggest that since LEGAL ways to purchase products should mean that pirating a show that takes 20 hours longer than some people want means they should steal it. I'm sorry but I don't follow that logic man.
No, what he's suggesting is that people get it from whoever offers the best service. If that's pirates, then the company who deserves the profits misses out on them. If MLG had the VOD up in a couple of hours, nobody would pirate it. MLG takes a couple of days, so nobody watches the VOD anymore (I hope this is an exaggeration, but I certainly don't watch their VOD anymore).
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On November 02 2011 22:20 flanksteak wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2011 22:03 Shelke14 wrote:On November 02 2011 21:56 FreudianTrip wrote:On November 02 2011 21:49 Shelke14 wrote:On November 02 2011 21:48 FreudianTrip wrote:On November 02 2011 21:12 Matkap wrote:On November 02 2011 21:10 Shelke14 wrote:On November 02 2011 20:28 Jakkerr wrote:On November 02 2011 20:15 Danglars wrote:On November 02 2011 20:14 smitty5569 wrote:[quote] It's not pirating if it's free anyways. Think of all the lost advertising revenue! That's not our fault, that's MLG's fault Are you joking here? Isn't that just like saying its movie companies fault for letting their movies be filmed and put on the internet? Next thing your going to say is they make enough money and one less view isn't going to hurt them. EDIT: Personally I hope the person who posted the stream rip on here gets perma-banned. But I'm a nobody and most likely wrong, just my thoughts. Not the same thing, MLG is beeing greedy and inefficient here. Ok you people are really clueless, so lets get some facts straight: it is NOT pirating, as the the guy who uploaded it is NOT making any profit at all, and that is the big difference. Hate to break it to you. It's still pirating. Reloaded and Skidrow don't make profit off ripping Battlefield 3, it's still pirating. But let's have some real talk here from the man, the legend, Gabe Newell who has repeatedly said (I'm paraphrasing) ,"If the pirates provide a better service, we deserve to lose." It's that simple. What was the Justice system thinking.... They should be in contact with Gabe Newell when assessing pirating laws... Come on.. iTunes came out, pirating dropped massively. Spotify came out, pirating stats dropped. Youtube became popular, pirating stats dropped. Valve started releasing games day 1 in Russian and Russia went from their largest pirated market to their 2nd most valuable European market. It's simples. Massively =/= zero. Pirating stats dropped =/= zero. Youtube popularity =/= zero. I think you get where I am getting at. You are attempting to suggest that since LEGAL ways to purchase products should mean that pirating a show that takes 20 hours longer than some people want means they should steal it. I'm sorry but I don't follow that logic man. I don't think that's what he meant at all :/
Yeah, I know! I got the point he was trying to make! But the basis of the problem is, it is still illegal. That's the point. Whether it is very illegal or even a little bit illegal. The word illegal in both those statements would choose i am correct on this issue. That is all, I'm not saying I don't understand why people would pirate it. Everyone on Teamliquid is wanting a free service done ASAP and if it isn't uploaded the very second JP turns off the stream well then fuck him and MLG. Did I get the overall point?
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On November 02 2011 22:23 Doodsmack wrote:
Typical arguments for those trying to justify their own pirating. "It was free for me anyway," "MLG is a bad company/I don't like their product/service," "They're rich anyway," "We're just showing MLG how to do it right." You clearly are just choosing whatever flavor of argument suits your needs. In the end you're still stealing, still ignoring the importance and value of intellectualy property rights, and there's no way to justify it.
The live viewers should be crusified for not using MLGs website You fail to think about why the vod is on the mlg website, an dnot in the working service of blip or twitch.
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On November 02 2011 22:23 Doodsmack wrote:
Typical arguments for those trying to justify their own pirating. "It was free for me anyway," "MLG is a bad company/I don't like their product/service," "They're rich anyway," "We're just showing MLG how to do it right." You clearly are just choosing whatever flavor of argument suits your needs. In the end you're still stealing, still ignoring the importance and value of intellectualy property rights, and there's no way to justify it.
Fucking thank you! Holy shit.
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