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sc2guy
Profile Joined November 2010
291 Posts
November 02 2011 14:55 GMT
#35101
On November 02 2011 22:11 Krallman wrote:
iNcontroL is a fucking great host!


no offence, but so much better than JP
✿◕‿◕✿ Taeng
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10876 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-02 14:57:26
November 02 2011 14:56 GMT
#35102
Hm.. Am I the only one that wonders why JP is on the show.. A "voice from the off" would be able to do like exactly the same whiteout being on cam?
hfxRos
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada87 Posts
November 02 2011 14:57 GMT
#35103
Could someone post a link to the .mp3 file? I'm at work and apparently blogspot is blocked here, but I should be able to follow the url to the mp3 to listen to it. Thanks!
pezit
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden302 Posts
November 02 2011 14:59 GMT
#35104
On November 02 2011 23:37 SupLilSon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2011 22:29 Jiddra wrote:
On November 02 2011 22:26 Shelke14 wrote:
On November 02 2011 22:20 flanksteak wrote:
On November 02 2011 22:03 Shelke14 wrote:
On November 02 2011 21:56 FreudianTrip wrote:
On November 02 2011 21:49 Shelke14 wrote:
On November 02 2011 21:48 FreudianTrip wrote:
On November 02 2011 21:12 Matkap wrote:
On November 02 2011 21:10 Shelke14 wrote:
[quote]

Are you joking here? Isn't that just like saying its movie companies fault for letting their movies be filmed and put on the internet? Next thing your going to say is they make enough money and one less view isn't going to hurt them.

EDIT: Personally I hope the person who posted the stream rip on here gets perma-banned. But I'm a nobody and most likely wrong, just my thoughts.


Not the same thing, MLG is beeing greedy and inefficient here.

Ok you people are really clueless, so lets get some facts straight:

it is NOT pirating, as the the guy who uploaded it is NOT making any profit at all, and that is the big difference.


Hate to break it to you. It's still pirating. Reloaded and Skidrow don't make profit off ripping Battlefield 3, it's still pirating.

But let's have some real talk here from the man, the legend, Gabe Newell who has repeatedly said (I'm paraphrasing),"If the pirates provide a better service, we deserve to lose." It's that simple.


What was the Justice system thinking.... They should be in contact with Gabe Newell when assessing pirating laws... Come on..


iTunes came out, pirating dropped massively. Spotify came out, pirating stats dropped. Youtube became popular, pirating stats dropped. Valve started releasing games day 1 in Russian and Russia went from their largest pirated market to their 2nd most valuable European market. It's simples.


Massively =/= zero. Pirating stats dropped =/= zero. Youtube popularity =/= zero. I think you get where I am getting at. You are attempting to suggest that since LEGAL ways to purchase products should mean that pirating a show that takes 20 hours longer than some people want means they should steal it. I'm sorry but I don't follow that logic man.


I don't think that's what he meant at all :/

Yeah, I know! I got the point he was trying to make! But the basis of the problem is, it is still illegal. That's the point. Whether it is very illegal or even a little bit illegal. The word illegal in both those statements would choose i am correct on this issue. That is all, I'm not saying I don't understand why people would pirate it. Everyone on Teamliquid is wanting a free service done ASAP and if it isn't uploaded the very second JP turns off the stream well then fuck him and MLG. Did I get the overall point?


It was illegal for balck people to do a lot of things in south afrcia. It's illegal is not a very interesting argument when discussing the right or wrong of something.


Wow, someone had to go there lol... There is a huge difference between human rights and piracy. Don't use racial discrimination as a comparison here, it's so out of context.


How can so many people misunderstand this one post made by Jiddra? Are you guys seriously this stupid?
rotegirte
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany2859 Posts
November 02 2011 15:05 GMT
#35105
On November 02 2011 23:37 SupLilSon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2011 22:29 Jiddra wrote:
On November 02 2011 22:26 Shelke14 wrote:
On November 02 2011 22:20 flanksteak wrote:
On November 02 2011 22:03 Shelke14 wrote:
On November 02 2011 21:56 FreudianTrip wrote:
On November 02 2011 21:49 Shelke14 wrote:
On November 02 2011 21:48 FreudianTrip wrote:
On November 02 2011 21:12 Matkap wrote:
On November 02 2011 21:10 Shelke14 wrote:
[quote]

Are you joking here? Isn't that just like saying its movie companies fault for letting their movies be filmed and put on the internet? Next thing your going to say is they make enough money and one less view isn't going to hurt them.

EDIT: Personally I hope the person who posted the stream rip on here gets perma-banned. But I'm a nobody and most likely wrong, just my thoughts.


Not the same thing, MLG is beeing greedy and inefficient here.

Ok you people are really clueless, so lets get some facts straight:

it is NOT pirating, as the the guy who uploaded it is NOT making any profit at all, and that is the big difference.


Hate to break it to you. It's still pirating. Reloaded and Skidrow don't make profit off ripping Battlefield 3, it's still pirating.

But let's have some real talk here from the man, the legend, Gabe Newell who has repeatedly said (I'm paraphrasing),"If the pirates provide a better service, we deserve to lose." It's that simple.


What was the Justice system thinking.... They should be in contact with Gabe Newell when assessing pirating laws... Come on..


iTunes came out, pirating dropped massively. Spotify came out, pirating stats dropped. Youtube became popular, pirating stats dropped. Valve started releasing games day 1 in Russian and Russia went from their largest pirated market to their 2nd most valuable European market. It's simples.


Massively =/= zero. Pirating stats dropped =/= zero. Youtube popularity =/= zero. I think you get where I am getting at. You are attempting to suggest that since LEGAL ways to purchase products should mean that pirating a show that takes 20 hours longer than some people want means they should steal it. I'm sorry but I don't follow that logic man.


I don't think that's what he meant at all :/

Yeah, I know! I got the point he was trying to make! But the basis of the problem is, it is still illegal. That's the point. Whether it is very illegal or even a little bit illegal. The word illegal in both those statements would choose i am correct on this issue. That is all, I'm not saying I don't understand why people would pirate it. Everyone on Teamliquid is wanting a free service done ASAP and if it isn't uploaded the very second JP turns off the stream well then fuck him and MLG. Did I get the overall point?


It was illegal for balck people to do a lot of things in south afrcia. It's illegal is not a very interesting argument when discussing the right or wrong of something.


Wow, someone had to go there lol... There is a huge difference between human rights and piracy. Don't use racial discrimination as a comparison here, it's so out of context.


Speaking of context, you are ignoring 50% of the sentences in Jiddra's two-sentence post.
gossard
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany5 Posts
November 02 2011 15:08 GMT
#35106
On November 02 2011 23:57 hfxRos wrote:
Could someone post a link to the .mp3 file? I'm at work and apparently blogspot is blocked here, but I should be able to follow the url to the mp3 to listen to it. Thanks!


http://s3.majorleaguegaming.com.s3.amazonaws.com/files/sotg/SotGEP55.mp3
Shelke14
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada6655 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-02 15:11:14
November 02 2011 15:09 GMT
#35107
On November 03 2011 00:05 rotegirte wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2011 23:37 SupLilSon wrote:
On November 02 2011 22:29 Jiddra wrote:
On November 02 2011 22:26 Shelke14 wrote:
On November 02 2011 22:20 flanksteak wrote:
On November 02 2011 22:03 Shelke14 wrote:
On November 02 2011 21:56 FreudianTrip wrote:
On November 02 2011 21:49 Shelke14 wrote:
On November 02 2011 21:48 FreudianTrip wrote:
On November 02 2011 21:12 Matkap wrote:
[quote]

Not the same thing, MLG is beeing greedy and inefficient here.

Ok you people are really clueless, so lets get some facts straight:

it is NOT pirating, as the the guy who uploaded it is NOT making any profit at all, and that is the big difference.


Hate to break it to you. It's still pirating. Reloaded and Skidrow don't make profit off ripping Battlefield 3, it's still pirating.

But let's have some real talk here from the man, the legend, Gabe Newell who has repeatedly said (I'm paraphrasing),"If the pirates provide a better service, we deserve to lose." It's that simple.


What was the Justice system thinking.... They should be in contact with Gabe Newell when assessing pirating laws... Come on..


iTunes came out, pirating dropped massively. Spotify came out, pirating stats dropped. Youtube became popular, pirating stats dropped. Valve started releasing games day 1 in Russian and Russia went from their largest pirated market to their 2nd most valuable European market. It's simples.


Massively =/= zero. Pirating stats dropped =/= zero. Youtube popularity =/= zero. I think you get where I am getting at. You are attempting to suggest that since LEGAL ways to purchase products should mean that pirating a show that takes 20 hours longer than some people want means they should steal it. I'm sorry but I don't follow that logic man.


I don't think that's what he meant at all :/

Yeah, I know! I got the point he was trying to make! But the basis of the problem is, it is still illegal. That's the point. Whether it is very illegal or even a little bit illegal. The word illegal in both those statements would choose i am correct on this issue. That is all, I'm not saying I don't understand why people would pirate it. Everyone on Teamliquid is wanting a free service done ASAP and if it isn't uploaded the very second JP turns off the stream well then fuck him and MLG. Did I get the overall point?


It was illegal for balck people to do a lot of things in south afrcia. It's illegal is not a very interesting argument when discussing the right or wrong of something.


Wow, someone had to go there lol... There is a huge difference between human rights and piracy. Don't use racial discrimination as a comparison here, it's so out of context.


Speaking of context, you are ignoring 50% of the sentences in Jiddra's two-sentence post.


The guy used racism to compare to piracy of a free pod cast and used that for a reason as to why he should be able to do it. Gimme a fucking break
hfxRos
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada87 Posts
November 02 2011 15:10 GMT
#35108
On November 03 2011 00:08 gossard wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2011 23:57 hfxRos wrote:
Could someone post a link to the .mp3 file? I'm at work and apparently blogspot is blocked here, but I should be able to follow the url to the mp3 to listen to it. Thanks!


http://s3.majorleaguegaming.com.s3.amazonaws.com/files/sotg/SotGEP55.mp3


Sweet, thank you!
rotegirte
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany2859 Posts
November 02 2011 15:15 GMT
#35109
On November 03 2011 00:09 Shelke14 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2011 00:05 rotegirte wrote:
On November 02 2011 23:37 SupLilSon wrote:
On November 02 2011 22:29 Jiddra wrote:
On November 02 2011 22:26 Shelke14 wrote:
On November 02 2011 22:20 flanksteak wrote:
On November 02 2011 22:03 Shelke14 wrote:
On November 02 2011 21:56 FreudianTrip wrote:
On November 02 2011 21:49 Shelke14 wrote:
On November 02 2011 21:48 FreudianTrip wrote:
[quote]

Hate to break it to you. It's still pirating. Reloaded and Skidrow don't make profit off ripping Battlefield 3, it's still pirating.

But let's have some real talk here from the man, the legend, Gabe Newell who has repeatedly said (I'm paraphrasing),"If the pirates provide a better service, we deserve to lose." It's that simple.


What was the Justice system thinking.... They should be in contact with Gabe Newell when assessing pirating laws... Come on..


iTunes came out, pirating dropped massively. Spotify came out, pirating stats dropped. Youtube became popular, pirating stats dropped. Valve started releasing games day 1 in Russian and Russia went from their largest pirated market to their 2nd most valuable European market. It's simples.


Massively =/= zero. Pirating stats dropped =/= zero. Youtube popularity =/= zero. I think you get where I am getting at. You are attempting to suggest that since LEGAL ways to purchase products should mean that pirating a show that takes 20 hours longer than some people want means they should steal it. I'm sorry but I don't follow that logic man.


I don't think that's what he meant at all :/

Yeah, I know! I got the point he was trying to make! But the basis of the problem is, it is still illegal. That's the point. Whether it is very illegal or even a little bit illegal. The word illegal in both those statements would choose i am correct on this issue. That is all, I'm not saying I don't understand why people would pirate it. Everyone on Teamliquid is wanting a free service done ASAP and if it isn't uploaded the very second JP turns off the stream well then fuck him and MLG. Did I get the overall point?


It was illegal for balck people to do a lot of things in south afrcia. It's illegal is not a very interesting argument when discussing the right or wrong of something.


Wow, someone had to go there lol... There is a huge difference between human rights and piracy. Don't use racial discrimination as a comparison here, it's so out of context.


Speaking of context, you are ignoring 50% of the sentences in Jiddra's two-sentence post.


The guy used racism to compare to piracy of a free pod cast and used that for a reason as to why he should be able to do it. Gimme a fucking break


And his argument would still hold without any example whatsoever. This nitpicking about insignificances as well as "it's wrong because it's illegal" are equally pointless. And that is what Jiddra's posts are about.


Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42393 Posts
November 02 2011 15:19 GMT
#35110
On November 02 2011 23:47 imbatroll wrote:
Will the VOD be uploaded to MLGTV? Just asking so I know where to refresh


Yes. But it will take days.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
NietzscheanKant
Profile Joined April 2011
Finland92 Posts
November 02 2011 15:27 GMT
#35111
On November 03 2011 00:09 Shelke14 wrote:
The guy used racism to compare to piracy of a free pod cast and used that for a reason as to why he should be able to do it. Gimme a fucking break

You would benefit from improving your reading comprehension.

Jiddra wrote:
It was illegal for balck people to do a lot of things in south afrcia. It's illegal is not a very interesting argument when discussing the right or wrong of something.

That is, whether something is legal or illegal does not say much about whether it is right or wrong from an ethical point of view.

Slavery used to be legal in the US, but it is generally recognized as having been an immoral system.
Homosexual behaviour used to be illegal in many countries, but most people (at least here in Finland) these days would agree that it's not immoral behaviour.
"There is only one good, knowledge, and one evil, ignorance." - Socrates
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
November 02 2011 15:30 GMT
#35112
Are you saying, then, that piracy is another example of something that's illegal but morally acceptable? On what basis?
NietzscheanKant
Profile Joined April 2011
Finland92 Posts
November 02 2011 15:35 GMT
#35113
On November 03 2011 00:30 Doodsmack wrote:
Are you saying, then, that piracy is another example of something that's illegal but morally acceptable? On what basis?

It would be helpful, if you either referenced the person to whom you were responding or alternatively quoted him.

If this was intended for me, I took no sides on this specific issue, but rather merely attempted to clarify (what I perceived to be) Jiddra's point about the irrelevancy of the legality of a subject matter in a debate concerning the ethicality of the said subject matter.
"There is only one good, knowledge, and one evil, ignorance." - Socrates
-_-
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States7081 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-02 15:51:12
November 02 2011 15:48 GMT
#35114
On November 02 2011 23:37 SupLilSon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2011 22:29 Jiddra wrote:
On November 02 2011 22:26 Shelke14 wrote:
On November 02 2011 22:20 flanksteak wrote:
On November 02 2011 22:03 Shelke14 wrote:
On November 02 2011 21:56 FreudianTrip wrote:
On November 02 2011 21:49 Shelke14 wrote:
On November 02 2011 21:48 FreudianTrip wrote:
On November 02 2011 21:12 Matkap wrote:
On November 02 2011 21:10 Shelke14 wrote:
[quote]

Are you joking here? Isn't that just like saying its movie companies fault for letting their movies be filmed and put on the internet? Next thing your going to say is they make enough money and one less view isn't going to hurt them.

EDIT: Personally I hope the person who posted the stream rip on here gets perma-banned. But I'm a nobody and most likely wrong, just my thoughts.


Not the same thing, MLG is beeing greedy and inefficient here.

Ok you people are really clueless, so lets get some facts straight:

it is NOT pirating, as the the guy who uploaded it is NOT making any profit at all, and that is the big difference.


Hate to break it to you. It's still pirating. Reloaded and Skidrow don't make profit off ripping Battlefield 3, it's still pirating.

But let's have some real talk here from the man, the legend, Gabe Newell who has repeatedly said (I'm paraphrasing),"If the pirates provide a better service, we deserve to lose." It's that simple.


What was the Justice system thinking.... They should be in contact with Gabe Newell when assessing pirating laws... Come on..


iTunes came out, pirating dropped massively. Spotify came out, pirating stats dropped. Youtube became popular, pirating stats dropped. Valve started releasing games day 1 in Russian and Russia went from their largest pirated market to their 2nd most valuable European market. It's simples.


Massively =/= zero. Pirating stats dropped =/= zero. Youtube popularity =/= zero. I think you get where I am getting at. You are attempting to suggest that since LEGAL ways to purchase products should mean that pirating a show that takes 20 hours longer than some people want means they should steal it. I'm sorry but I don't follow that logic man.


I don't think that's what he meant at all :/

Yeah, I know! I got the point he was trying to make! But the basis of the problem is, it is still illegal. That's the point. Whether it is very illegal or even a little bit illegal. The word illegal in both those statements would choose i am correct on this issue. That is all, I'm not saying I don't understand why people would pirate it. Everyone on Teamliquid is wanting a free service done ASAP and if it isn't uploaded the very second JP turns off the stream well then fuck him and MLG. Did I get the overall point?


It was illegal for balck people to do a lot of things in south afrcia. It's illegal is not a very interesting argument when discussing the right or wrong of something.


Wow, someone had to go there lol... There is a huge difference between human rights and piracy. Don't use racial discrimination as a comparison here, it's so out of context.


It infuriates me when someone misconstrues a counterexample as a comparison, or purposefully avoids the intention of a limited comparison in order to make an outraged post. If I said Hitler killing millions of Jews was legal in response to you, I'm not comparing genocide with a Starcraft talk show, I'm punching a hole in the argument that legality should control a man's actions. If you think my statement is insensitive argue that, don't stick your head in the sand to get your ire up.
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
November 02 2011 16:04 GMT
#35115
On November 03 2011 00:35 NietzscheanKant wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2011 00:30 Doodsmack wrote:
Are you saying, then, that piracy is another example of something that's illegal but morally acceptable? On what basis?

It would be helpful, if you either referenced the person to whom you were responding or alternatively quoted him.

If this was intended for me, I took no sides on this specific issue, but rather merely attempted to clarify (what I perceived to be) Jiddra's point about the irrelevancy of the legality of a subject matter in a debate concerning the ethicality of the said subject matter.



I was addressing you and anyone else saying that legality is irrelevant to ethicality. I realize you took no sides on the issue of piracy, I was just trying to return the discussion to SotG piracy.
Seldentar
Profile Joined May 2011
United States888 Posts
November 02 2011 16:14 GMT
#35116
On November 03 2011 00:09 Shelke14 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2011 00:05 rotegirte wrote:
On November 02 2011 23:37 SupLilSon wrote:
On November 02 2011 22:29 Jiddra wrote:
On November 02 2011 22:26 Shelke14 wrote:
On November 02 2011 22:20 flanksteak wrote:
On November 02 2011 22:03 Shelke14 wrote:
On November 02 2011 21:56 FreudianTrip wrote:
On November 02 2011 21:49 Shelke14 wrote:
On November 02 2011 21:48 FreudianTrip wrote:
[quote]

Hate to break it to you. It's still pirating. Reloaded and Skidrow don't make profit off ripping Battlefield 3, it's still pirating.

But let's have some real talk here from the man, the legend, Gabe Newell who has repeatedly said (I'm paraphrasing),"If the pirates provide a better service, we deserve to lose." It's that simple.


What was the Justice system thinking.... They should be in contact with Gabe Newell when assessing pirating laws... Come on..


iTunes came out, pirating dropped massively. Spotify came out, pirating stats dropped. Youtube became popular, pirating stats dropped. Valve started releasing games day 1 in Russian and Russia went from their largest pirated market to their 2nd most valuable European market. It's simples.


Massively =/= zero. Pirating stats dropped =/= zero. Youtube popularity =/= zero. I think you get where I am getting at. You are attempting to suggest that since LEGAL ways to purchase products should mean that pirating a show that takes 20 hours longer than some people want means they should steal it. I'm sorry but I don't follow that logic man.


I don't think that's what he meant at all :/

Yeah, I know! I got the point he was trying to make! But the basis of the problem is, it is still illegal. That's the point. Whether it is very illegal or even a little bit illegal. The word illegal in both those statements would choose i am correct on this issue. That is all, I'm not saying I don't understand why people would pirate it. Everyone on Teamliquid is wanting a free service done ASAP and if it isn't uploaded the very second JP turns off the stream well then fuck him and MLG. Did I get the overall point?


It was illegal for balck people to do a lot of things in south afrcia. It's illegal is not a very interesting argument when discussing the right or wrong of something.


Wow, someone had to go there lol... There is a huge difference between human rights and piracy. Don't use racial discrimination as a comparison here, it's so out of context.


Speaking of context, you are ignoring 50% of the sentences in Jiddra's two-sentence post.


The guy used racism to compare to piracy of a free pod cast and used that for a reason as to why he should be able to do it. Gimme a fucking break


Are you serious man? Your poor reading comprehension skills are making you look incredibly stupid...
itmeJP
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1101 Posts
November 02 2011 16:15 GMT
#35117
MLG.tv VOD is up http://tv.majorleaguegaming.com/videos/78731-state-of-the-game-ep-55-part-1
Twitter.com/itmeJP -- Twitch.tv/itmeJP -- YouTube.com/itmeJP
Panthae
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada205 Posts
November 02 2011 16:19 GMT
#35118
On November 03 2011 01:15 itmeJP wrote:
MLG.tv VOD is up http://tv.majorleaguegaming.com/videos/78731-state-of-the-game-ep-55-part-1


Thanks alot JP for uploading it so quick! You da man! Way to listen to the fans dude!
For Aïur?
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42393 Posts
November 02 2011 16:20 GMT
#35119
On November 03 2011 00:19 Grettin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2011 23:47 imbatroll wrote:
Will the VOD be uploaded to MLGTV? Just asking so I know where to refresh


Yes. But it will take days.


I'll take my words back. Thanks JP.

On November 03 2011 01:15 itmeJP wrote:
MLG.tv VOD is up http://tv.majorleaguegaming.com/videos/78731-state-of-the-game-ep-55-part-1
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Linwelin
Profile Joined March 2011
Ireland7554 Posts
November 02 2011 16:20 GMT
#35120
That's fast! Thanks JP
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