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Probasaur
Profile Joined August 2011
United States461 Posts
October 05 2011 06:06 GMT
#32941
No SOTG next week, SUCH a bummer.


Know what you need to do to make up for it JP??? (kidding you dont haveta make up for anything youre a sic pro bro) BRING ON HUK!!!!! PLEASEEEE GET HUK BACK ON!!!!

White Ra tonight was fantastic, sometimes hard to hear but he made so many good points. And so did Tyler and Geoff. I'm gonna give the mvp to NONY tho cause he sounded so focused and ready to roll over pro's at MLG. Give em hell Tyler.


Like I said before BEST stateofthegame EVER. Dying to watch it again and catch all the important toss talk that fell thru the cracks whilst distracted. Any ETA on VOD's man?? If its at all possible to restream it even if its only audio I would much appreciate that. If not, sucks, but I'll be patiently awaiting the VOD. GG guys. Thankyou all.
"He who makes a beast of himself.... gets rid of the pain of being a man" -Hunter S Thompson.
Mythra
Profile Joined July 2011
New Zealand274 Posts
October 05 2011 06:07 GMT
#32942
anyone know when the vod will be up? only got to watch a bit of it.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - KuroKy
StyLeD
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2965 Posts
October 05 2011 06:07 GMT
#32943
Just got back home, any links to the mp3?
"Even gophers love Starcraft" - Tasteless. || Davichi | IU <3
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
October 05 2011 06:16 GMT
#32944
On October 05 2011 15:05 0neder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2011 14:34 bentnormal wrote:
sc better than chess? come on artosis...

Chess is nearly infinitely slow, not real time, and has much fewer variables and depth than SC.


What do you base that on?
nvs.
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada3609 Posts
October 05 2011 06:21 GMT
#32945
and has much fewer variables and depth than SC.


omg. this might be the most ignorant statement ever. there are 500 page books on one variation of one opening.
MenSol[ZerO]
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada1134 Posts
October 05 2011 06:23 GMT
#32946
well there are several maps and races in starcraft for one , probably billions of variables
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Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
October 05 2011 06:28 GMT
#32947
On October 05 2011 15:21 nvs. wrote:
Show nested quote +
and has much fewer variables and depth than SC.


omg. this might be the most ignorant statement ever. there are 500 page books on one variation of one opening.


If you REALLY wanted to you could write a 500 page book on 1 SC opening... I think.

Also post a link to said book you speak of, sounds quite exaggerated.
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Lightswarm
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada967 Posts
October 05 2011 06:29 GMT
#32948
is the audio up? i missed the show while drinking
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BrodiaQ
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States892 Posts
October 05 2011 06:31 GMT
#32949
When did the show actually end? Might have a chance of figuring out whether or not to wait for vods/ mp3 before bed.
"So come right up and let me squash your creativity with my iron fist of conservative play."--Nony
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-05 06:36:32
October 05 2011 06:36 GMT
#32950
On October 05 2011 15:28 Hall0wed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2011 15:21 nvs. wrote:
and has much fewer variables and depth than SC.


omg. this might be the most ignorant statement ever. there are 500 page books on one variation of one opening.


If you REALLY wanted to you could write a 500 page book on 1 SC opening... I think.

Also post a link to said book you speak of, sounds quite exaggerated.


Every single move in every position in chess alters the game state in a very meaningful way that you can research and analyze for a very, very long time.

SC2 might look like it has more positional variables since it is based in a continuous space, but most positional variables aren't anywhere as meaningful to the actual play.
Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-05 06:38:07
October 05 2011 06:37 GMT
#32951
On October 05 2011 15:16 Talin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2011 15:05 0neder wrote:
On October 05 2011 14:34 bentnormal wrote:
sc better than chess? come on artosis...

Chess is nearly infinitely slow, not real time, and has much fewer variables and depth than SC.


What do you base that on?

You could perhaps argue, the "board" that Starcraft is played on has many more squares than a chess board, and also at any given frame drawn by the game engine, there could be a new move by the players. If you count that as variables, in theory the game gets more complex than chess, though I guess this is not really true in reality because of physical limitations. Who knows how a perfect Starcraft match would look like, where a theoretical superman sees everything happening in slow motion and has time to fiddle with every unit and building individually at any given moment.
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
nvs.
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada3609 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-05 06:37:23
October 05 2011 06:37 GMT
#32952
On October 05 2011 15:28 Hall0wed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2011 15:21 nvs. wrote:
and has much fewer variables and depth than SC.


omg. this might be the most ignorant statement ever. there are 500 page books on one variation of one opening.


If you REALLY wanted to you could write a 500 page book on 1 SC opening... I think.

Also post a link to said book you speak of, sounds quite exaggerated.


http://www.amazon.com/Chess-Openings-White-Explained-Winning/dp/1889323209/ref=sr_1_29?ie=UTF8&qid=1317796568&sr=8-29

500+ page book on one white opening (e4)
Klyberess
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden345 Posts
October 05 2011 06:38 GMT
#32953
anyone know how long for the audio? just missed the show t_t
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Baarn
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2702 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-05 06:43:14
October 05 2011 06:42 GMT
#32954
On October 05 2011 14:34 bentnormal wrote:
sc better than chess? come on artosis...


Makes me wonder why you'd post that here if you found chess more interesting to watch than starcraft? I rather see starcraft than a chess tournament. Chess is boring to watch imo.
There's no S in KT. :P
lightrise
Profile Joined March 2008
United States1355 Posts
October 05 2011 06:43 GMT
#32955
On October 05 2011 15:37 nvs. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2011 15:28 Hall0wed wrote:
On October 05 2011 15:21 nvs. wrote:
and has much fewer variables and depth than SC.


omg. this might be the most ignorant statement ever. there are 500 page books on one variation of one opening.


If you REALLY wanted to you could write a 500 page book on 1 SC opening... I think.

Also post a link to said book you speak of, sounds quite exaggerated.


http://www.amazon.com/Chess-Openings-White-Explained-Winning/dp/1889323209/ref=sr_1_29?ie=UTF8&qid=1317796568&sr=8-29

500+ page book on one white opening (e4)


There are soo many other books that are just as big or bigger hahah.
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ketomai
Profile Joined June 2007
United States2789 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-05 06:45:28
October 05 2011 06:44 GMT
#32956
On October 05 2011 15:37 nvs. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2011 15:28 Hall0wed wrote:
On October 05 2011 15:21 nvs. wrote:
and has much fewer variables and depth than SC.


omg. this might be the most ignorant statement ever. there are 500 page books on one variation of one opening.


If you REALLY wanted to you could write a 500 page book on 1 SC opening... I think.

Also post a link to said book you speak of, sounds quite exaggerated.


http://www.amazon.com/Chess-Openings-White-Explained-Winning/dp/1889323209/ref=sr_1_29?ie=UTF8&qid=1317796568&sr=8-29

500+ page book on one white opening (e4)


I could probably write a shit load on the possibilities after 15 hatch 16 pool too..-.-.

What Artosis is saying is that starcraft involves another factor, and that's REAL TIME. Chess can be simplified to a few moves, starcraft's moves are pretty much nearly infinite, so theoretically, it has the potential to be much, much deeper and more complex.

Try thinking how one would "solve" chess (similar to how people have solved checkers), then think about how one would "solve" starcraft.
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
October 05 2011 06:46 GMT
#32957
No MP3?
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-05 06:52:07
October 05 2011 06:49 GMT
#32958
nvm...

mp3 is delayed. No SOTG for me today @work.
I had a good night of sleep.
nvs.
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada3609 Posts
October 05 2011 06:49 GMT
#32959
Chess can be simplified to a few moves


k my brain hurts too much to comprehend this i'm outties.

gg wp
eltese
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden369 Posts
October 05 2011 06:49 GMT
#32960


@itmeJP
JP McDaniel
audio portion of @StateOfTheGame will be up tomorrow when i wake up -- too tired to edit it tonight -- VOD within 24 hours
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