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Official State of the Game Podcast Thread - Page 1634

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juicyjames *
Profile Joined August 2011
United States3815 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-01 19:10:36
October 01 2011 18:09 GMT
#32661
On October 02 2011 00:29 infinity2k9 wrote:
The problem is with the sometimes MLG-heavy episodes is, it really isn't that interesting. There's so little so say and a lot of it is just 'ummm uhhh' about things then choosing probably the favourite to progress anyway. Like there is very little analysis or insight... and it somehow takes ageesss. I mean really going through every single group? How about just putting out the obvious and saying who some dark horses might be. Not switching between each persons almost identical opinion on each group.

I echo this sentiment.

I understand MLG sponsors SotG now so MLG gets more coverage and VODs go on MLG's site. However, it doesn't stop episodes from being outright boring where JP reads off who is in Group A, then asks each person for their opinion, and repeats that for each MLG group. It gives MLG attention, yes, but it probably dissuades me from watching SotG even more.

I suggest taking the discussion to a new format, or cut down the MLG discussion a bit and replace it with discussion about MLG's Global Invitationals.

Edit: I also think MLG's site has usability issues. I have no problems with MLG hosting MLG content, but if they want serious traffic to it they need to re-design it.
This Week in SC2Find out what happened 'This Week in Starcraft 2': http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=278126
Sisko
Profile Joined May 2010
United States121 Posts
October 01 2011 18:42 GMT
#32662
As long as the audio is on itunes i dont care, thanks for doing the show.
S.O.N.
Profile Joined October 2011
United States2 Posts
October 01 2011 18:44 GMT
#32663

I really appreciate what you have been doing, but this part sounds really bad. The usual method that was more convenient for everybody doesn't benefit MLG, so from now on there will be more work for you and more waiting for us, if I understood this correctly?

At the beginning there will be yeah. But we're looking for ways to live-encode it so that we can begin uploading immediately. Will be spending tomorrow setting that up in an old PC of mine and hope for the best. [/QUOTE]


Hey JP, definitely recommend eSATA in the meantime while you're figuring out that live-encoding, if you haven't already considered it. 300 MB/s feels like you're using broadband for the first time.
darkscream
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2310 Posts
October 01 2011 18:51 GMT
#32664
Yo,

I probably won't watch this show on MLG.tv because i hate the website and don't want to watch 5 commercials per episode. The reason I like the show is because it was a far-cry from mainstream media which is always jam packed with ads.

Live or mp3 recording for me from now on, I guess. I understand why the change is being made for "MLG SOTG", and I hope you guys understand why I won't enjoy the content being hacked up and delayed like this. You won't be getting my pageviews.

Worse, I know this will affect the format of the show somewhat. As you grow you have to change, but I sure hope you keep the magic JP. The magic isn't JUST in the guests or the content, it was also the format of the show.
shaunyeWEST
Profile Joined June 2011
United States20 Posts
October 01 2011 19:30 GMT
#32665
On October 02 2011 03:51 darkscream wrote:
Yo,

I probably won't watch this show on MLG.tv because i hate the website and don't want to watch 5 commercials per episode. The reason I like the show is because it was a far-cry from mainstream media which is always jam packed with ads.

Live or mp3 recording for me from now on, I guess. I understand why the change is being made for "MLG SOTG", and I hope you guys understand why I won't enjoy the content being hacked up and delayed like this. You won't be getting my pageviews.

Worse, I know this will affect the format of the show somewhat. As you grow you have to change, but I sure hope you keep the magic JP. The magic isn't JUST in the guests or the content, it was also the format of the show.


you're gonna watch it, though.
"holla at a goon when I make that p pop!"
svefnleysi
Profile Joined March 2011
Iceland623 Posts
October 01 2011 19:50 GMT
#32666
On October 02 2011 04:30 shaunyeWEST wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2011 03:51 darkscream wrote:
Yo,

I probably won't watch this show on MLG.tv because i hate the website and don't want to watch 5 commercials per episode. The reason I like the show is because it was a far-cry from mainstream media which is always jam packed with ads.

Live or mp3 recording for me from now on, I guess. I understand why the change is being made for "MLG SOTG", and I hope you guys understand why I won't enjoy the content being hacked up and delayed like this. You won't be getting my pageviews.

Worse, I know this will affect the format of the show somewhat. As you grow you have to change, but I sure hope you keep the magic JP. The magic isn't JUST in the guests or the content, it was also the format of the show.


you're gonna watch it, though.

I'm not. But I will happily listen to the mp3 every week without feeling like I'm missing out on anything important.

I just finished listening to this week's episode - can someone post a link to or explain the Tyler - TT1 "thing"? I'm really curious now. I'm looking over the comments but everyone's just whining over the VOD.
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
October 01 2011 19:56 GMT
#32667
On October 02 2011 04:50 svefnleysi wrote:
I just finished listening to this week's episode - can someone post a link to or explain the Tyler - TT1 "thing"? I'm really curious now. I'm looking over the comments but everyone's just whining over the VOD.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=269236&currentpage=14#280
shaunyeWEST
Profile Joined June 2011
United States20 Posts
October 01 2011 20:06 GMT
#32668
On October 02 2011 04:50 svefnleysi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2011 04:30 shaunyeWEST wrote:
On October 02 2011 03:51 darkscream wrote:
Yo,

I probably won't watch this show on MLG.tv because i hate the website and don't want to watch 5 commercials per episode. The reason I like the show is because it was a far-cry from mainstream media which is always jam packed with ads.

Live or mp3 recording for me from now on, I guess. I understand why the change is being made for "MLG SOTG", and I hope you guys understand why I won't enjoy the content being hacked up and delayed like this. You won't be getting my pageviews.

Worse, I know this will affect the format of the show somewhat. As you grow you have to change, but I sure hope you keep the magic JP. The magic isn't JUST in the guests or the content, it was also the format of the show.


you're gonna watch it, though.

I'm not. But I will happily listen to the mp3 every week without feeling like I'm missing out on anything important.

I just finished listening to this week's episode - can someone post a link to or explain the Tyler - TT1 "thing"? I'm really curious now. I'm looking over the comments but everyone's just whining over the VOD.


not miss out on anything important? Artosis' face?
"holla at a goon when I make that p pop!"
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
October 01 2011 20:54 GMT
#32669
One complaint I have is they spend an hour talking about groups and predictions, but then when the tournament actually happens, they only spend like 5 mins talking about the tournament results.
Top 10 favourite pros: MKP, MVP, MC, Nestea, DRG, Jaedong, Flash, Life, Creator, Leenock
nath
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1788 Posts
October 01 2011 21:18 GMT
#32670
holy shit people need to calm the fuck down and stop ragging on sotg. if you love it so much, support it and be glad that its being used to promote the MLG brand.
Founder of Flow Enterprises, LLC http://flow-enterprises.com/
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
October 01 2011 21:29 GMT
#32671
This kind of stuff reminds me why I can't really keep liking something that isn't an independent production / non-budget for a very long time. -_-
nath
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1788 Posts
October 01 2011 21:32 GMT
#32672
On October 02 2011 06:29 Talin wrote:
This kind of stuff reminds me why I can't really keep liking something that isn't an independent production / non-budget for a very long time. -_-

hipster alert.
Founder of Flow Enterprises, LLC http://flow-enterprises.com/
xtfftc
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2343 Posts
October 01 2011 22:41 GMT
#32673
On October 02 2011 03:05 fant0m wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2011 00:29 infinity2k9 wrote:
The problem is with the sometimes MLG-heavy episodes is, it really isn't that interesting. There's so little so say and a lot of it is just 'ummm uhhh' about things then choosing probably the favourite to progress anyway. Like there is very little analysis or insight... and it somehow takes ageesss. I mean really going through every single group? How about just putting out the obvious and saying who some dark horses might be. Not switching between each persons almost identical opinion on each group.


I think that's mostly Tyler. >_<

No offense, I like him as a person, and I want him to do well. I'm just not as entertained by him as I am by everyone else on SotG (and ItG). Artosis, Incontrol, and Day9 are all very enthusiastic and have a lot of funny things to say. Tyler is much more reserved and a little more bland. I know he's been around for the entire run of the show, but it would be really nice if we could get someone who doesn't play Protoss instead every once in a while. Hell I'll even take a Terran.


If there's anything that would actually stop me from listening to SotG, it would be Tyler not being on the show anymore. There is no need for everyone to fit a specific role and be enthusiastic or funny or whatever*. One of the great things about SotG is the diversity of the characters and that it's not, erm, symmetric. There is absolutely no need to make sure that Incontrol talks less and Tyler more to balance it out.

*+ Show Spoiler +
Tyler's jokes are actually awesome, even though most of the time they're not the type of humour that gets the loud laughs; and he is also very enthusiastic about the things he finds interesting enough, he's just not shouting about it
KDN
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway96 Posts
October 01 2011 22:42 GMT
#32674
I'm not going to spend time trying to find and watch the episodes anymore. I'll watch a couple of mins if I see it is live, but Inside the Game has taken over the role from this show after it became MLG branded.
xtfftc
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2343 Posts
October 01 2011 22:42 GMT
#32675
On October 02 2011 05:06 shaunyeWEST wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2011 04:50 svefnleysi wrote:
On October 02 2011 04:30 shaunyeWEST wrote:
On October 02 2011 03:51 darkscream wrote:
Yo,

I probably won't watch this show on MLG.tv because i hate the website and don't want to watch 5 commercials per episode. The reason I like the show is because it was a far-cry from mainstream media which is always jam packed with ads.

Live or mp3 recording for me from now on, I guess. I understand why the change is being made for "MLG SOTG", and I hope you guys understand why I won't enjoy the content being hacked up and delayed like this. You won't be getting my pageviews.

Worse, I know this will affect the format of the show somewhat. As you grow you have to change, but I sure hope you keep the magic JP. The magic isn't JUST in the guests or the content, it was also the format of the show.


you're gonna watch it, though.

I'm not. But I will happily listen to the mp3 every week without feeling like I'm missing out on anything important.

I just finished listening to this week's episode - can someone post a link to or explain the Tyler - TT1 "thing"? I'm really curious now. I'm looking over the comments but everyone's just whining over the VOD.


not miss out on anything important? Artosis' face?

listen to the podcast + check reddit afterwards
BatesC
Profile Joined June 2011
United States175 Posts
October 01 2011 22:56 GMT
#32676
On October 02 2011 07:42 xtfftc wrote:

listen to the podcast + check reddit afterwards


Reddit's bad now though
SxYSpAz
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1451 Posts
October 01 2011 23:23 GMT
#32677
i understand not being able to put this on blip or anything since it is now under MLG. But if they are going to refuse that it be put on any other site they need to make sure they can put it on their site on time.

If this is a one time mistake, then idc really, but i'd like state of the game to have some consistency... as in both air dates and upload times. Still, <3 to SotG and can't wait to check out this episode
Legio
Profile Joined December 2008
Sweden235 Posts
October 02 2011 00:39 GMT
#32678
With SOTG going Corporate, does this mean that Inc, Tyler, Artosis are getting paid for their contribution? Will they get compensated for old episodes as well?

Is this officially an MLG production now, or can we expect the MLG talk in the show to be neutral and balanced? Will you rip MLG a new one if they screw up a show?
ELA
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark4608 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-02 03:51:12
October 02 2011 03:48 GMT
#32679
On October 02 2011 09:39 Legio wrote:
With SOTG going Corporate, does this mean that Inc, Tyler, Artosis are getting paid for their contribution? Will they get compensated for old episodes as well?

Is this officially an MLG production now, or can we expect the MLG talk in the show to be neutral and balanced? Will you rip MLG a new one if they screw up a show?


Yep, word on the street is that every 'non-playing-pillar-of-protoss' is getting paid for each episode
The first link of chain forged, the first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.
anathematize
Profile Joined June 2011
United States69 Posts
October 02 2011 05:11 GMT
#32680
unreal how bad the brightcove players are considering it costs ~24k/year (low end) to utilize their service.

get out of that contract and make mlg switch to ooyala JP.
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