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xrayEU
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden571 Posts
July 20 2011 07:12 GMT
#27821
On July 20 2011 16:06 itmeJP wrote:
Episode 44 VOD // MP3


Thanks JP!
Pyo
Profile Joined October 2010
United States738 Posts
July 20 2011 07:17 GMT
#27822
On July 20 2011 16:12 Uncultured wrote:
Really needed to log in just to state how horrible the MLG player is. Please god update that thing.


I agree. The VoD only plays for 2 minutes and 30 seconds for me. "...we have our usual guests - er I guess hosts today excep––" Hopefully the video just isn't done encoding yet. I guess I'll just have to be patient.
blooblooblahblah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4163 Posts
July 20 2011 07:18 GMT
#27823
VODs broken for me too
Ganzi beat me without stim. Ostojiy beat me with a nydus. Siphonn beat me with probes. Revival beat my sentry-immortal all-in.
graNite
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany4434 Posts
July 20 2011 07:19 GMT
#27824
Will you ever change to a good player? Unwatchable for me, again.
Mp3 is just silence wtf?
"Oink oink, bitches" - Tasteless on Pigbaby winning a map against Flash
Zabimaru
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom132 Posts
July 20 2011 07:19 GMT
#27825
No more blip uploads of the Vods? And is there still no way to download the vod?
To Death we shall all go.
(Max 20 chars)
Profile Joined March 2011
149 Posts
July 20 2011 07:20 GMT
#27826
1:47 and the video ends for me.
Seems there is something broken.

Is there a way to download it? I'd like to watch it with a local player for better forward and rewind controls.
ProxyKnoxy
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2576 Posts
July 20 2011 07:22 GMT
#27827
This is actually a realllly bad player... revert back to blip? Unless he has some kind of obligation to post it on MLG
"Zealot try give mariners high five. Mariners not like high five and try hide and shoot zealot"
zTz
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
United States476 Posts
July 20 2011 07:22 GMT
#27828
ya stops at 1:40ish
where's the rants n flames section?
DooMDash
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1015 Posts
July 20 2011 07:23 GMT
#27829
broken here as well.
S1 3500+ Master T. S2 1600+ Master T.
Keype
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden455 Posts
July 20 2011 07:23 GMT
#27830
Ye why has everything stopped from blip.tv, did always work better this. It has broken for me too btw.
Tornado Terran Fighting!
taLbuk
Profile Joined April 2010
Madagascar1879 Posts
July 20 2011 07:24 GMT
#27831
On July 20 2011 15:25 Mordiford wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2011 15:06 StyLeD wrote:
On July 20 2011 15:02 Chicane wrote:
I don't know... I think Leah adds an interesting perspective with the coverage she does as part of her job, and also from the perspective of someone who only spectates (though JP also does that). In terms of not contributing much, that can often be said of many of hosts at different points. Tasteless being on was a great example... he just sat there even though everyone loved having him on. (Btw, have him on the show again. Socke too.)

Regardless, they aren't capped at 4 people or anything like that...


1. They don't ask her about her job.
2. Exactly, that's why we don't need two of the same type of people on a show with only 4 people total.


On July 20 2011 15:05 MrDudeMan wrote:
I don't really get how people can bash on leah for not having game experience but are ok with jp. At least Leah has answers to the questions, jp spent more time thinking about answers then he did answering them (although the tyler answer was something people have been wanting to ask for a long time). I think for one of the questions he didn't even have an answer. The only questions where Leah gave answers that were "more vanilla" then the other guests was probably the top 5 players/who you expected to do great and did ones. And that's just because she didn't follow SC1. Her answer to worst tournament being IEM was justified because of the broken 5-Rax reaper at the time, and it definitely wasn't an average opinion (I don't think anyone even talks about that anymore). I like both jp and leah on the show, I just think its weird that people are quick to talk about her lack of game knowledge but let jp have the pass. Sure he may be the host, but he's not even a great host, last week he did a poor job of including sheth and leah in the conversation. Though this week it was somewhat better.



That's easy. JP is the host and directs the entire SOTG, Leah is a guest. JP was first, Leah is a guest and came after. When you have JP, you have 0 use of another non-player.


The show isn't capped at 4 people, so this is entirely a non-issue.

I feel like the redundancy argument in regards to Leah and JP would actually make sense if their responses, or the nature of their responses were actually redundant, but they have yet to simply sit there and echo each other with the non-progamer point of view that people seem somewhat fixated on. What did anyone else on the show really add that Leah was unable to? She watches a ton of games, does event coverage, writes articles relating to eSports and the Starcraft 2 scene.

Really, I'm still wondering what it is that people don't like here, I'm not sure if it's what she's saying, because on the episodes she's been on, she hasn't seemed like the odd one out as far as the quality of dialog goes.

So is it simply when Tyler and Dan say something, even if the quality of what's being said is the same, it's Tyler or Dan saying it so it's worthwhile but when it's a non-progamer it's wasted time on the show? I don't think that's really a wrong answer, because the speaker's reliability is important, but in regards to the topics she's contributed on the show, I don't think it's particularly relevant.

If JP asked, "So, how do you guys feel about the state of the game?" and she responded with Gold league happenings, perhaps it wouldn't be the most apt point of view to have on the show, but the closest we've gotten to that was the most desired patch/change question which was hardly anything at all.

If people simply want a pro-gamer only show with JP acting as the host and mediating discussion, that's one thing, I don't think that's really wrong, I just don't agree, I think there are plenty of non-progamers who can offer insight worth having on the show and so far, Leah has been one of them.


You're reading way too much into it. I can only speak for myself here but it has nothing to do with what Leah says or her gender, its specifically the fact that she fills a similar role to JP. Logistically I would imagine having over 4 people would be a bit tedious for everybody to get their opinion in on everything and possibly someone would end up not talking for a majority of the show.

It's not that she doesn't offer insight, its the fact that SotG went from a heavy show getting deep and dirty into the state of the metagame for starcraft... Into Q&A with JP and friends.


SeRenExZerg
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States401 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-20 07:28:51
July 20 2011 07:27 GMT
#27832
i feel like the show has lost a LOT of its flavor with the absence of incontrol. I absolutely loved tuning in every week previous to his departure, but since he has been gone it really just seems like the show is a bit too structured now.

I also dislike all the extra "fluff" that seems to be present now. maybe the topics that are brought up are just not really my taste, at least for what i've come to expect from SotG. its kind of difficult to put my finger on it, but the show feels much different now than it used to.
One thing about deer: They have good vision. One thing about me: I am better at hiding than they are at vision.
Kojaimea
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom277 Posts
July 20 2011 07:35 GMT
#27833
Woop, another dose of the best podcast on the net!
The riverbed, dried-up, half full of leaves. Us, listening to a river in the trees.
teer
Profile Joined September 2010
United States189 Posts
July 20 2011 07:39 GMT
#27834
vod keeps cuttiong off for me as well
itmeJP
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1101 Posts
July 20 2011 07:41 GMT
#27835
VOD issue is known. Looking into it, but it might have to wait till morning.
Twitter.com/itmeJP -- Twitch.tv/itmeJP -- YouTube.com/itmeJP
AmericanUmlaut
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2594 Posts
July 20 2011 07:47 GMT
#27836
On July 20 2011 16:04 Gamegene wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2011 15:59 AmericanUmlaut wrote:

I see your point, but it's worth pointing out that, with six people in a discussion, allowing anyone to interrupt when they feel they have something to contribute would lead to total chaos. Maybe if people IMed JP an exclamation point or something when they wanted to talk? That would sort of balance the two extremes of talking whenever you want and talking only when addressed, and it might also help the problem that some of the contributors are obviously not paying attention to the conversation.


I'm pretty sure they know how to have a six person discussion.

Everyone has probably talked with more than 6 of their friends numerous times in their life.

Yeah, but how many of those discussions would be an entertaining product if recorded and listened to? Natural conversations tend to bounce from subject to subject willy-nilly, and that's perfectly fine if you're sitting around chatting with your friends. You need a bit more structure than that for a show.
The frumious Bandersnatch
xrayEU
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden571 Posts
July 20 2011 07:54 GMT
#27837
On July 20 2011 16:19 graNite wrote:
Mp3 is just silence wtf?


It starts at ~1:30
itmeJP
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1101 Posts
July 20 2011 07:57 GMT
#27838
I'm aware the SotG VOD doesn't work. It'll have to be looked into tomorrow morning. The MP3 works fine, though. I re-uploaded it with the first minute of silence cut out.
Twitter.com/itmeJP -- Twitch.tv/itmeJP -- YouTube.com/itmeJP
Xevious
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2086 Posts
July 20 2011 08:04 GMT
#27839
On July 20 2011 16:57 itmeJP wrote:
I'm aware the SotG VOD doesn't work. It'll have to be looked into tomorrow morning. The MP3 works fine, though. I re-uploaded it with the first minute of silence cut out.

Its ok we love you anyway :D

upload to blip though plz :/
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 20 2011 08:18 GMT
#27840
On July 20 2011 16:06 itmeJP wrote:
Episode 44 VOD // MP3

HAHAHA, now that it is uploaded on mlg I can listen to it at work. I am a very happy boy right now.

Thank you JP.
I had a good night of sleep.
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