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Snowfield
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
1289 Posts
October 21 2010 10:06 GMT
#2501
It was ment lightly and humorous, i'm sorry that it doesnt project aswell on forums as on podcasts.
Sisko
Profile Joined May 2010
United States121 Posts
October 21 2010 10:07 GMT
#2502
I am offended by the apparent lack of sincerity I think you owe us a retraction for that. Also an apology for not apologizing earlier.
Snowfield
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
1289 Posts
October 21 2010 10:24 GMT
#2503
Also, TLO doesn't suck, he's quite good.
Uncultured
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1340 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-21 10:33:18
October 21 2010 10:32 GMT
#2504
... Meh. I think the real answer is for iNcontroL, or any others on the SotG to ignore a good 90% of the people on these forums, instead of acknowledging the shit that's people feel the need to spew. Dwelling on it is only going to be bad, and further instigate rediculous behavior.

I've noticed the TL forums and community are really devolving into a shadow of what it once was, something much more like the official blizzard forums. Before release this would be(and still should be) considered a massive insult. I haven't been posting long, but I've been lurking long enough to know that TL used to be full of people who could apply a little bit of critical thinking towards a situation, And easily be able to avoid falling into the hyperbolic, mud-slinging, epeen measuring that the mass of users of the internet are faced with every day. But frankly it's pretty easy to see the degredation, and a claim like such isn't so far fetched.

Much like the blizzard forums people are jumping on every damn thing they see that might stir a little drama. People make no effort to determine the veracity of a claim. Any claim, good or bad. It's much like the masses of people we see in across the web, always moving with the ebb and flow(usually flowing when they should be ebbing, mind you) instead of thinking for themselves. No offense and as harsh as it might sound, these forums aren't worth much for gaining insight anymore, and what few good people have to give, like the SotG, is bent to sound like insults or ludicrous shenanigans in order to further fuel the flames and keeps things dramatic.

My suggestion: pretty much whats already happening. More and more bans. Probably less temp, more perm would be ideal though.

TL should be a place when rational thought isn't a minority.
Don't you rage when you lose too? -FruitDealer
FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
October 21 2010 10:34 GMT
#2505
On October 21 2010 19:32 Uncultured wrote:
... Meh. I think the real answer is for iNcontroL, or any others on the SotG to ignore a good 90% of the people on these forums, instead of acknowledging the shit that's people feel the need to spew. Dwelling on it is only going to be bad, and further instigate rediculous behavior.



didn't they come to that conclusion at the end of last podcast anyway?
Kevmeister @ Dota2
Snowfield
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
1289 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-21 10:38:30
October 21 2010 10:38 GMT
#2506
dddddoublepost, sorry, can be deleted
kar1181
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom515 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-21 10:46:11
October 21 2010 10:43 GMT
#2507
There's nothing worse than a mob looking for a sign of contrition but not actually caring if they get it anyway.

Basically Inc was proven dead wrong about the casters for gsl. (Well for the most part). So what, everyone of us is wrong every day of the week.

But he *was* wrong. And that's the point if you go around trash talking things/people, occasionally you're going to have it shoved back in your face.

The welcome irony from it all though, is that in many ways inc could learn from Lee and Idra.
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
October 21 2010 10:44 GMT
#2508
I actually stand by what I said lol

I think people are pretty open to accepting any caster Lots of really bad casters are heralded as amazing.

SUP NEW DRAMA
Snowfield
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
1289 Posts
October 21 2010 10:47 GMT
#2509
What qualities do you look for in a caster, mainly a "color commentator"? And do you have a caster top 10 list? (or top 5, as there is barely any good casters on TL)
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
October 21 2010 10:49 GMT
#2510
email sotg with those excellent q's sir
eNbee
Profile Joined July 2010
Belgium487 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-21 10:51:51
October 21 2010 10:50 GMT
#2511
On October 21 2010 19:44 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
I actually stand by what I said lol

I think people are pretty open to accepting any caster Lots of really bad casters are heralded as amazing.

SUP NEW DRAMA


You were partially right on the podcast, but idra + jason lee really did work out well. Xeqtr on the other hand said about 10 words on a 10dB level. And today just spent the entire game bashing on players for being bad (he himself isn't good, is he?)


Edit : Also please keep it up with the asian accent it really tickles me <3 no homo
hmmmm
Snowfield
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
1289 Posts
October 21 2010 10:51 GMT
#2512
On October 21 2010 19:49 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
email sotg with those excellent q's sir


I will, i think it's time to do a sotg about casters and use the flamethrower to discourage alot of the bads.
kojinshugi
Profile Joined August 2010
Estonia2559 Posts
October 21 2010 10:54 GMT
#2513
On October 21 2010 19:43 kar1181 wrote:
But he *was* wrong.


But he *wasn't*. In that it's a subjective opinion.

To me, Jason Lee is doing a great job sounding like a sportscaster.

But the problem is he could be reciting the user's manual for a rhubarb peeler and do just as great a job at sounding like a sportscaster.
whatsgrackalackin420
kar1181
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom515 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-21 11:01:30
October 21 2010 11:00 GMT
#2514
He said they would be terrible, now, the quality of a sports caster/games caster is partially subjective, but an objective way of quantifying their performance is to gauge the reaction of the viewers.

And on TL.NET the general consensus is that actually, he and Idra were pretty good. Which is quite far from being 'Freaking terrriiible' (said in whatever peculiar rural sounding american twang Inc has).
kojinshugi
Profile Joined August 2010
Estonia2559 Posts
October 21 2010 11:06 GMT
#2515
On October 21 2010 20:00 kar1181 wrote:
He said they would be terrible, now, the quality of a sports caster/games caster is partially subjective, but an objective way of quantifying their performance is to gauge the reaction of the viewers.

And on TL.NET the general consensus is that actually, he and Idra were pretty good. Which is quite far from being 'Freaking terrriiible' (said in whatever peculiar rural sounding american twang Inc has).


Wait, an objective way of quantifying the subjective is to look at popular appeal?

Celine Dion - the greatest musician ever?
whatsgrackalackin420
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
October 21 2010 11:14 GMT
#2516
Don't argue with facts kojin. kar1181 has empirical proof that they are indeed excellent commentators. If you can find people that enjoy anything it becomes impossible to say that thing is anything negative. It is known.
Sisko
Profile Joined May 2010
United States121 Posts
October 21 2010 11:33 GMT
#2517
Never underestimate the Graken He will always surprise you either by doing much better or much worse than you expected.
SilverPotato
Profile Joined July 2010
United States560 Posts
October 21 2010 11:45 GMT
#2518
Incontrol did you ever end up commentating at MLG? If so I must have missed it
"The ability to learn faster than your competitors may be the only sustainable competitive advantage." ~Arie de Geus
kar1181
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom515 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-21 11:53:40
October 21 2010 11:49 GMT
#2519
On October 21 2010 20:14 {88}iNcontroL wrote:If you can find people that enjoy anything it becomes impossible to say that thing is anything negative. It is known.


This is a bit of a strawman retort don't you think? It's not a case of finding 'some' people, but rather a broad sample of a hardcore (and typically hard to please) community.

It's not impossible to say anything negative, but it is hard to justify those negative views when the bulk of the audience to who those views are directed, disagree.

Not that that in itself is even a problem, after all Copernicus's views weren't too highly regarded despite being right.

But in this case you came out with some strong negative views, and it seems that those views are supported by only a small number of people.

So if nothing else you have to accept that (if you still believe what you said) you're holding a minority view. And generally if everyone says the sky is blue and you're sitting there saying nah man, that be brown. You have to do better to justify why you think that is.

I don't think you did, or subsequently have done, a good job of justifying your views. At least Copernicus had science and mathematics on his side.

Snowfield
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
1289 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-21 11:51:38
October 21 2010 11:49 GMT
#2520
On October 21 2010 20:33 Sisko wrote:
Never underestimate the Graken He will always surprise you either by doing much better or much worse than you expected.


Ahahahahahaahhaha, Release the Gracken

The kraken zerg, best nickname

edit: justified by his ability to multitask/macro (krakeken have many arms)
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