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Pulimuli
Sweden2766 Posts
idra's 12hours a day for 2 years does not count in sc2. That would be like Heaton saying "lol ive been playing CS for so many years, i should be able to rape everyone in sc2" yea i know its not the same thing but still, Morrow,Idra and Dimaga all have played about the same amount and therefore, if the game is balanced, should result in close games just because Idra is the better player in SC:BW doesnt mean he's the better player in SC 2 | ||
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BeyondCtrL
Sweden642 Posts
On August 22 2010 22:05 Bosko wrote: Thats exactly what it means. When the best Zergs can beat the best Terrans that means the average Zergs should be able to beat the average Terrans. What horrible logic. The best zerg in the tournament (DIMAGA and IdrA) are much better players than the best terran players. Sure guys like TLO and MorroW are strong players, but not close to as good as DIMAGA or IdrA. If inferior players can make it a hell and even out a match it means that the race they are playing is favored in someway; be it unit versatility, available options from start to end, or just map imbalance. | ||
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Pulimuli
Sweden2766 Posts
On August 22 2010 23:03 BeyondCtrL wrote: What horrible logic. The best zerg in the tournament (DIMAGA and IdrA) are much better players than the best terran players. Sure guys like TLO and MorroW are strong players, but not close to as good as DIMAGA or IdrA. If inferior players can make it a hell and even out a match it means that the race they are playing is favored in someway; be it unit versatility, available options from start to end, or just map imbalance. This makes no sense, how is Idra and Dimaga better than TLO and Morrow? because they were better in SC:BW? seriously this is a different game and they all have played the same amount (roughly) | ||
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BeyondCtrL
Sweden642 Posts
On August 22 2010 23:04 Pulimuli wrote: This makes no sense, how is Idra and Dimaga better than TLO and Morrow? because they were better in SC:BW? seriously this is a different game and they all have played the same amount (roughly) It makes perfect sense when you watch the games. DIMAGA and IdrA have much more refined play in their games. They were better than them in BW because they were more talented than them, I think that still applies. | ||
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Bosko
United States155 Posts
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Meff
Italy287 Posts
On August 22 2010 23:04 Pulimuli wrote: This makes no sense, how is Idra and Dimaga better than TLO and Morrow? because they were better in SC:BW? seriously this is a different game and they all have played the same amount (roughly) Mechanics? APM? There are some strong technical similarities between the two games, so I'd bet that skill at one of them does affect skill at the other. At the very least, it's obviously true at the lower levels of play. | ||
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imperator-xy
Germany1377 Posts
On August 22 2010 23:04 Pulimuli wrote: This makes no sense, how is Idra and Dimaga better than TLO and Morrow? because they were better in SC:BW? seriously this is a different game and they all have played the same amount (roughly) its kind of naive to say that morrow played 12 hours every day since sc2 was released | ||
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imperator-xy
Germany1377 Posts
every strong player right now has played sc1 or at least wc3 before, so how can you not agree that it gives you an advantage in some way | ||
Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33723 Posts
On August 22 2010 23:08 BeyondCtrL wrote: It makes perfect sense when you watch the games. DIMAGA and IdrA have much more refined play in their games. They were better than them in BW because they were more talented than them, I think that still applies. Morrow has been one of the best build makers throughout the entire beta.... His play is pretty fucking refined. | ||
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Batisterio-PiB
Brazil219 Posts
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Pulimuli
Sweden2766 Posts
MorroW played SC:BW for.. 2years? and achieved A rank on iccup, before IdrA went to korea he wasnt even a top-terran outside of Korea Even with 2 years practice in a proteam he cannot beat NonY to save his fucking life MorroW's talend > IdrA's im not even that big of a fan of MorroW but its chrystal fucking clear that he's not any less talented than idra or dimaga just hate it when people makes retarded assumptions based on how good the players were in another game | ||
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awesomoecalypse
United States2235 Posts
Mechanics? APM? Much, much less important in SC2. WhiteRa has an apm of like 100 and can't even split his workers properly. He's still a beast. Past a certain bare minimum, strategy/creativity are just as important as pure mechanics, which is why TLO does well--he's really, really creative and good at throwing his opponents out of their comfort zone. If TLO is on his game, he forces his opponent to adopt unit compositions and strategies that they've likely never used before, which mucks with their execution, allowing him to win. Idra is the exact opposite of that. He plays the exact same strategy every single game. *Of course* he needs crazy mechanics to make that work--the opponent always knows what he's going to do and can plan accordingly. The only way Idra is going to beat that is if he just plain out-executes his opponent. There is more to skill at SC2 than APM/mechanics. They're a component, but if your strategy is just plain better, your opponent can execute better than you and you can still win. Maybe if Idra realized this he wouldn't bitch so much every time a supposedly "inferior" player manages to beat him. | ||
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FarbrorAbavna
Sweden4856 Posts
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TeWy
France714 Posts
There's hardly any counter if the Zerg has good macro and knows how to defend. But ye, he wouln't switch, this was just an attempt to force Blizzard to buff Zerg. | ||
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Warrior Madness
Canada3791 Posts
On August 22 2010 23:25 Liquid`Jinro wrote: Morrow has been one of the best build makers throughout the entire beta.... His play is pretty fucking refined. He also has the best drop ship play I've seen. | ||
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Jimmeh
United Kingdom908 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + getting third place in the IEM with some amazing play | ||
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Madkipz
Norway1643 Posts
On August 22 2010 23:38 FarbrorAbavna wrote: I sincerely hope dimaga doesnt switch, His zerg is just beast, just needs to work on a few minor details in his play. Seeing him play in the IEM has undoubtedly been the most entertaining games. just need to second this, but i think given his recent performance and the many fans cheering i think he wont make a switch. | ||
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koOma
Norway462 Posts
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MoRs
Germany35 Posts
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DwmC_Foefen
Belgium2186 Posts
It was like TLO vs Nada but then multiple games. | ||
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