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Leidenschafft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany103 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-20 21:02:41
August 13 2010 18:19 GMT
#1
Hey guys,

I am the creator of sc2sig.com and just had another idea: custom divisions.

I don't know if blizzard will add custom divisions ingame soon, but i could build a website where you could create custom divisions.

A custom division would then consist of you and anybody you'd like to add, showing every division-member in a table sorted by league, points, rank. (In a way similar to "my friends rankings" on your ingame profile).

Do you think this does make sense? Would you use it?

No, there wouldn't be any in-custom-division matches or game integration, just a way to display any kind of group like your guild, your friends, etc.

This data could then also be used to compare custom divisions by calculating averages, i.e.:

guild x average wlr: 55%
guild x average league: platin
guild x average points: 300

guild y average wlr: 60%
guild y average league: diamond
guild y average points: 500

And, at last, to further recycle things i already built, i could add self-updating signatures for your custom division. Think of this whole thing as the group- or guildversion of sc2sig.com.

I haven't started to build this yet because i'd like to hear your feedback on this first, if anybody would actually use it.

UPDATE 20.8.2010:
Ok, BETA is available at http://sc2divisions.com/

Please report any bug you find or any strange behaviour you see. As i said before, i am not satisfied with the interface yet as it doesn't seem that intuitive/easy to use for me.

The player table is sorted this way: league descending (diamond -> bronze), points descending, rank ascending.
silencesc
Profile Joined July 2010
United States464 Posts
August 13 2010 18:23 GMT
#2
I think it's an awesome idea, I find that people like you really help the community insomuch as you innovate before blizzard can ^^. I can see it becoming an enormous success! If you need beta testers, I'd be happy to help.
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mutantbagel
Profile Joined July 2010
United States22 Posts
August 13 2010 19:18 GMT
#3
I really really like this idea, if Blizzard doesn't add clans/guilds soon. However i'd be afraid if they did hold to their word and incorporated clans to BNet 2.0 and you had just made your own custom divisions. It might just be too soon to tell.
Not at the table Carlos!
PhiliBiRD
Profile Joined November 2009
United States2643 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-13 19:21:49
August 13 2010 19:21 GMT
#4
i think this is an AWESOME idea for Teams. teams having their own inside ladder to be able to compare to each other much easier than what they are doing now. that was wat first came to my mind.

edit:

as post b4 me said, we have no clan support atm so we have zero idea what will be coming. :-/
reddog1999
Profile Joined June 2009
United States143 Posts
August 13 2010 19:23 GMT
#5
Great idea to keep track of friends and teams, I know that some divisions are very lackluster in terms of quality and if you could just make your own with you and your buddies it could promote a little bit more compeition.
Aegeis
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1619 Posts
August 13 2010 19:26 GMT
#6
I am praying that come blizzcon 2010, blizz will announce the complete re-work of Bnet 2.0
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Coindrop
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States203 Posts
August 13 2010 19:34 GMT
#7
I think this is a fantastic idea = )
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crimsonsentinel
Profile Joined April 2010
United States179 Posts
August 13 2010 19:37 GMT
#8
This combined with chat-rooms would be amazing.
ensign_lee
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1178 Posts
August 13 2010 19:44 GMT
#9
This is pretty cool. I'd definitely take part in it.
JQL
Profile Joined July 2010
United States214 Posts
August 13 2010 20:25 GMT
#10
great idea. i will definitely support this.
no way
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
August 13 2010 20:52 GMT
#11
Sounds fun but will have to consider if there are any ways to abuse this to help your score.
darksub
Profile Joined July 2010
Argentina302 Posts
August 13 2010 21:07 GMT
#12
sounds great
divide et vinces
Apollys
Profile Joined July 2010
United States278 Posts
August 13 2010 21:11 GMT
#13
On August 14 2010 04:26 Aegeis wrote:
I am praying that come blizzcon 2010, blizz will announce the complete re-work of Bnet 2.0


Don't we all wish this could be true...
When you're feeling down, I'll be there to feel you up!
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12235 Posts
August 13 2010 21:13 GMT
#14
This is such a logical extension of the division system it's a wonder Blizzard didn't implement it, especially considering their goal of fostering a new social community. Xbox Live games allow you to filter Leaderboards by Friends Rank, so a custom division as you describe makes perfect sense.

Things may get a little confusing if you have friends that are in different leagues, but I'm sure Blizzard could come up with some way to present the information that isn't confusing. Absolutely in support of this idea.
Moderator
dubRa
Profile Joined December 2008
2165 Posts
August 13 2010 21:14 GMT
#15
It would also help organising tournaments.
TadH
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada1846 Posts
August 13 2010 21:18 GMT
#16
Do you really want custom divisions? :D

Great idea.
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
August 13 2010 21:20 GMT
#17
We need a Teamliquid division to motivate me to play.
Leidenschafft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany103 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-13 21:49:02
August 13 2010 21:48 GMT
#18
I have the feeling that some of you misunderstand what i can do and what i can not do:

I can let you build custom divisions on an external website, playerstats will get updated daily. You can watch a list with all your friends including their league, division, rank and points.
This will give you a nice looking division page with some statistics for your friends or guildmates.

I can not add the custom league functionality to the game itself. You can not join that custom division ingame or play against custom league members through the game itself. Everything is and stays on the website. This will not and probably won't ever influence your ingame experience in any way.
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12235 Posts
August 13 2010 21:56 GMT
#19
On August 14 2010 06:48 Leidenschafft wrote:
I have the feeling that some of you misunderstand what i can do and what i can not do:

I can let you build custom divisions on an external website, playerstats will get updated daily. You can watch a list with all your friends including their league, division, rank and points.
This will give you a nice looking division page with some statistics for your friends or guildmates.

I can not add the custom league functionality to the game itself. You can not join that custom division ingame or play against custom league members through the game itself. Everything is and stays on the website. This will not and probably won't ever influence your ingame experience in any way.


I don't want to give you the wrong idea about my reply. I'm saying this is something Blizzard should have done from the start. The fact that we'd have to visit an external website to do something that should have been core functionality is disappointing and somewhat of an inconvenience, but that website would fill a key role for many users in my estimation.
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Faruep
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Germany100 Posts
August 13 2010 23:45 GMT
#20
that sounds really nice, i honestly hope you will do that! great opportunity to have a overview of teammates and friends, combining then in 1 "division"!!

also nice way to campare teams, this is nothing but great.

P L E A S E do that!!
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12235 Posts
August 17 2010 00:11 GMT
#21
Oh so FYI I didn't notice until someone mentioned it to me but you can view your Friends Rank (in-game only) by going to Leagues & Ladders > Friends. So it's kind of already implemented, but just not on the website.
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Liquorshot_852
Profile Joined July 2010
Korea (South)72 Posts
August 17 2010 02:13 GMT
#22
if blizzard implemented a way to put this in the client, it would be the best thing ever.
brad drac
Profile Joined May 2010
Ireland202 Posts
August 17 2010 02:26 GMT
#23
Sounds awesome. All the zerg and toss players can finally have a league without terrans!
Saying what we think gives us a wider conversational range than saying what we know.
Seraph.yongweihua
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada224 Posts
August 17 2010 16:46 GMT
#24
this is an awesome idea, we could have a teamliquid.net division for everyone on the forums.
RumZ
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States956 Posts
August 17 2010 16:49 GMT
#25
Didn't Blizzard say custom divisions are something you can pay for down the road? I am pretty sure this was hinted at during one of those terrible interviews that sparked the Husky video and the beta boards blowing up.
Leidenschafft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany103 Posts
August 18 2010 20:54 GMT
#26
Hey guys,

just wanted to let you know that i am working on this and am nearing beta stage. The biggest problem for me right now is how to let you manage your own custom divisions without yet another registration/login process. I love simplicity, and for example love that you can get your starcraft 2 signature from sc2sig.com on just one page with very few simple steps. A lot of feedback said that the majority of you likes that too

I have some options for the custom divisions i am evaluating right now:
a) Yet another account, just for this site. Want to avoid this, but works 100%

b) Just a 'management password' per custom division which can be set at the creation. You would have to enter it with every change you want to make, but no real account/login required. This is the way i am implementing it right now.

c) Do you guys known OpenID? Or Facebook-Connect? Anything tl.net or other sc2 sites offer as a central authentication system i could use?

Any input is appreciated.
Leidenschafft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany103 Posts
August 20 2010 20:30 GMT
#27
Ok, BETA is available at http://sc2divisions.com/

Please report any bug you find or any strange behaviour you see. As i said before, i am not satisfied with the interface yet as it doesn't seem that intuitive/easy to use for me.

The player table is sorted this way: league descending (diamond -> bronze), points descending, rank ascending.
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
August 20 2010 20:31 GMT
#28
any sort of clan support would be really nice. I'm sure Blizzard is working on clan support right now, and I can't wait for them to implement it!
CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
August 20 2010 20:32 GMT
#29
Wow that really sounds like a good idea, I support that
Jang Yoon Chul hwaiting!
Leidenschafft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany103 Posts
August 20 2010 20:40 GMT
#30
As soon as tournament services like challonge.com offer api-access, i will implement a "start a cup from this custom division"-feature. I like this idea

If you know a tournament hosting site that supports something like that (automated registrations/api-access), let me know!
Leidenschafft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany103 Posts
August 23 2010 08:51 GMT
#31
Is something not working on the site? Or is something wrong with the concept/interface in general?

With the feedback i got for the pure idea I don't really understand the near-zero response to the beta page. Especially if you found something that doesn't work or you don't like, i'm dependend on your feedback!

This is an example how a custom division could look like for a small forum community:
http://sc2divisions.com/custom/malganis-de/4
It doesn't matter if you are in different divisions, leagues or even servers - you can compare all members on just one page.
EliteAzn
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States661 Posts
August 24 2010 06:17 GMT
#32
Can't see all people in division, Doesn't have correct 1v1 race, only "most common" race.

Other than that, pretty nice and I like it! Good Work
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Karliath
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2214 Posts
August 24 2010 06:21 GMT
#33
Not by far a new idea, but definitely one I think we'd all want.
zak
Profile Joined April 2010
Korea (South)1009 Posts
August 24 2010 06:22 GMT
#34
On August 14 2010 03:19 Leidenschafft wrote:
Hey guys,

I am the creator of sc2sig.com and just had another idea: custom divisions.

I don't know if blizzard will add custom divisions ingame soon, but i could build a website where you could create custom divisions.

A custom division would then consist of you and anybody you'd like to add, showing every division-member in a table sorted by league, points, rank. (In a way similar to "my friends rankings" on your ingame profile).

Do you think this does make sense? Would you use it?

No, there wouldn't be any in-custom-division matches or game integration, just a way to display any kind of group like your guild, your friends, etc.

This data could then also be used to compare custom divisions by calculating averages, i.e.:

guild x average wlr: 55%
guild x average league: platin
guild x average points: 300

guild y average wlr: 60%
guild y average league: diamond
guild y average points: 500

And, at last, to further recycle things i already built, i could add self-updating signatures for your custom division. Think of this whole thing as the group- or guildversion of sc2sig.com.

I haven't started to build this yet because i'd like to hear your feedback on this first, if anybody would actually use it.

UPDATE 20.8.2010:
Ok, BETA is available at http://sc2divisions.com/

Please report any bug you find or any strange behaviour you see. As i said before, i am not satisfied with the interface yet as it doesn't seem that intuitive/easy to use for me.

The player table is sorted this way: league descending (diamond -> bronze), points descending, rank ascending.



wow really fun idea. your own private division that you can play with friends. etc. brilliant genius.
You know how to gain a victory, but not use it - maharbal
Subversion
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
South Africa3627 Posts
August 24 2010 07:21 GMT
#35
sounds really cool actually, to be able to create extra custom divisions in addition to your main division.

obviously this would just be for fun, but would really be cool to do this for a bunch of friends or a team or sumthing
comis
Profile Joined April 2010
United States333 Posts
August 24 2010 07:45 GMT
#36
Some dude with 10 minutes of free time > Battle.net dev team? I like.
Nocawy
Profile Joined March 2010
Poland7 Posts
August 24 2010 12:24 GMT
#37
I was looking for something like this! Great idea.

Also, maybe add option to make it private/public?
RoyalCheese
Profile Joined May 2010
Czech Republic745 Posts
August 24 2010 13:58 GMT
#38
wow i would really like teamliquid division :D so i can see how bad i am ;]
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Inkarnate
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada840 Posts
August 24 2010 14:05 GMT
#39
This is really cool, I always like to argue with friends about rankings and these groups them neatly. Here's what a populated one looks like:

http://sc2divisions.com/custom/grudge-match/67


Feedback:
It's a little tedious to add a bunch of people, maybe having the form reset to add another person automatically or allow multiple additions at once? Overall very cool.
Faruep
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Germany100 Posts
August 24 2010 14:20 GMT
#40
i love you for doing this, seriously!!
you sir, have a fan!
Leidenschafft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany103 Posts
August 24 2010 20:32 GMT
#41
On August 24 2010 23:05 Inkarnate wrote:
Feedback:
It's a little tedious to add a bunch of people, maybe having the form reset to add another person automatically or allow multiple additions at once? Overall very cool.


The add player url input field does now reset and gets focus after a successfully added player.

I also fixed an issue where reloading the page with a selected management radio box wouldn't show the additional fields.

You can now also click on the player names to get to their b.net profiles.

Last but not least: the url you can enter below your divisions description is now also displayed correctly.

The next big things are comprehensive sorting functions (sort by any table cell in any direction) and average statistics.
RushGG
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United Kingdom212 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-24 20:41:31
August 24 2010 20:40 GMT
#42
Competitive gaming site clanbase.com host ladders for many games; upon announcing their SC2 ladders they were informed by Blizzard that they cannot host permanent ladders, but can host one off tournaments (Cups on Clanbase) and so will be doing this instead.

Just a heads up :-)


p.s. I like this custom ladder idea where it's like a ladder between friends or w/e, nice :-)
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Leidenschafft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany103 Posts
August 24 2010 20:46 GMT
#43
Hm, i don't "host a ladder", i just gather all the actual b.net information for a set of players you provide. (imho)
hofodomo
Profile Joined March 2010
United States257 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-24 23:01:00
August 24 2010 21:15 GMT
#44
Holy flipping dicks, this idea is so simple yet so awesome. Our epeen comparisons will never be the same!

+ Show Spoiler +
Be advised, I may sound sarcastic in my post, but this is, in fact, genuine nergasm.


Also, are only people with league wins added to the division? Because those with team games are added (even if they have no solo games), though those with no league wins whatsoever do not show up (or that's what I think I'm observing).
Smoke weed ev'ry day.
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-24 22:36:19
August 24 2010 22:22 GMT
#45
This is going to help so much for open tournaments.

Actually, please make an option to have no password for open tournaments. Please.
wuddersup
Profile Joined July 2010
United States228 Posts
August 25 2010 00:35 GMT
#46
I tried making a division for a website I go to, but trolls kept removing players n stuff. Needs more admin features to prevent this.
bnanaPEEL
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada138 Posts
August 25 2010 03:16 GMT
#47
This is awesome! I've started a custom division for those who live in or around the island of Montreal. Add yourself and your friends, the master code is 514.

http://sc2divisions.com/custom/montreal/84
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Stropheum
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1124 Posts
August 25 2010 03:29 GMT
#48
I don't like this idea specifically, but they should really add a team feature, and show team rankings (ie, an independent ELO ladder of all the members in a particular league, usually diamond), as well as a global team ladder, showing the current strongest team based on highest and average ELO. Also this would make things a lot easier for players wishing to have clan tags in their name, just another good feature to have
hydezyne
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States38 Posts
August 25 2010 03:35 GMT
#49
Yes. Make it so.
There is Power in Simplicity
Hyp-The-Feared
Profile Joined April 2010
United States108 Posts
August 25 2010 03:37 GMT
#50
didnt they say in a couple weeks from release we would have the clan patch? i was hoping this would be implemented from along time ago.
The-Feared
Torture
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada221 Posts
August 25 2010 04:37 GMT
#51
This is an awesome idea. I love it!
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
August 25 2010 06:00 GMT
#52
This is really cool I just made one for my team and some friends http://sc2divisions.com/custom/annihilation/123
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
Leidenschafft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany103 Posts
August 25 2010 06:31 GMT
#53
On August 25 2010 09:35 wuddersup wrote:
I tried making a division for a website I go to, but trolls kept removing players n stuff. Needs more admin features to prevent this.


Hm, don't give out the master pw to people you don't know or trust?
What "admin features to prevent this" are you thinking of?
EliteGaming
Profile Joined June 2009
Dominican Republic97 Posts
August 25 2010 06:45 GMT
#54
thats really really nice. GOOD JOB!!!
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Disciple7
Profile Joined August 2010
United States198 Posts
August 25 2010 07:01 GMT
#55
i really like this feature. it would be nice if you could somehow incorporate wins and losses and w/l percentage, preferably against each race but i'm not sure that's possible o_O also as you already said you were working on, average statistics throughout the division is a nice touch
A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject. -Winston Churchill
Leidenschafft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany103 Posts
August 25 2010 07:17 GMT
#56
On August 25 2010 06:15 hofodomo wrote:
Also, are only people with league wins added to the division? Because those with team games are added (even if they have no solo games), though those with no league wins whatsoever do not show up (or that's what I think I'm observing).


Hm, every player should show up, even with no games played at all. If they don't, please send me a pm with the profile urls that don't work.

In this example: http://sc2divisions.com/custom/malganis-de/4 the last player has not played any 1v1 ladder games yet, so this is the way they should show up.
TheKing
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia186 Posts
August 25 2010 08:47 GMT
#57
Wow this is amazing
Leidenschafft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany103 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-25 09:45:54
August 25 2010 09:37 GMT
#58
By the way: The site also supports cross-realm divisions, so you can add eu/us/sea/... players to the same custom division!
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
August 25 2010 10:50 GMT
#59
how often does the custom division update?
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
Leidenschafft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany103 Posts
August 25 2010 11:22 GMT
#60
no auto updating active right now, but you can force it to update on the custom division page via the "update now" link. i will activate autoupdates soon and i think they will run on a daily basis -> every 24 hours.
trace666
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany3 Posts
August 26 2010 17:57 GMT
#61
Great idea Leidenschafft, very useful!

One remark: I am not sure Blizzard will be fine with you using all their graphics on your site. Or there might be an announcement that they actually do allow that for community sites that I am not aware off...

It shouldnt be to hard to replace the images by custom made ones though.
Leidenschafft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany103 Posts
August 26 2010 19:58 GMT
#62
On August 27 2010 02:57 trace666 wrote:
Great idea Leidenschafft, very useful!

One remark: I am not sure Blizzard will be fine with you using all their graphics on your site. Or there might be an announcement that they actually do allow that for community sites that I am not aware off...

It shouldnt be to hard to replace the images by custom made ones though.


I already sent out requests to get included into their fansite program, to know exactly how they like my websites and the usage of their graphics. As you may also have noted, the Starcraft 2/Blizzard trademark/copyright remark is on the page since day one.
Sanguinarius
Profile Joined January 2010
United States3427 Posts
August 26 2010 21:22 GMT
#63
Thats a good idea. I think alot of people would use it.
Your strength is just an accident arising from the weakness of others -Heart of Darkness
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12235 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-26 21:30:20
August 26 2010 21:27 GMT
#64
On August 25 2010 18:37 Leidenschafft wrote:
By the way: The site also supports cross-realm divisions, so you can add eu/us/sea/... players to the same custom division!


This is the real strength of the site IMO. Technically if you really wanted to, you could add everyone you know to your friends list and go to your profile > Leagues and Ladders > Friends Rank. You don't get the convenience of a website but it's a lot of the same information. The real benefit is being able to do this across realms, which is pretty neat. Thanks for the effort and the update!

EDIT: Another advantage this site has over the in-game Friends Rank is filtering. I can add people who I don't want on my friends list, which is handy because it doesn't clutter up my friends list or bombard me with annoying toasts. I can also create categorical divisions, say one for Co-Workers for example, that I wouldn't be able to filter using the in-game Friends Rank. Neat stuff.
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vradovic
Profile Joined September 2008
United States293 Posts
August 26 2010 21:27 GMT
#65
I use this for my country rank statistics
JQL
Profile Joined July 2010
United States214 Posts
August 26 2010 22:59 GMT
#66
Just made a division and I love it, thanks.
no way
Leidenschafft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany103 Posts
August 27 2010 22:49 GMT
#67
Just updated the site to support bulk-adding of players.
Leidenschafft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany103 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-28 11:24:30
August 28 2010 11:09 GMT
#68
Player Value, League Value and Average Player Value:

To compare players/custom divisions vs each other I am trying to introduce a new numeric value which should resemble how "good" a player is overall in battle.net. Right now the formula reads like this: League * Ladderpoints + Achievement points + Won career games.
I am trying to include every aspect (pvp + pve) from the game into this value.

By assigning each player a value i can sum up all the points and calculate an average per custom division. You can now easily compare divisions vs each other via the average player value, membercount does not matter this way.

What do you think about this?

edit: also added WLR
BigBaby
Profile Joined January 2003
Portugal109 Posts
August 28 2010 13:26 GMT
#69
Thank you for this. This is really useful.

I'm not sure I agree with the player value including achievements and what not, but everything else is great.

Keep up the good work!
Diks
Profile Joined January 2010
Belgium1880 Posts
August 28 2010 13:55 GMT
#70
That is an awesome job, man !

I created Belgium Ladder. The password is BEL
Feel free to add yourself if you live in Belgium !
Leidenschafft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany103 Posts
August 28 2010 14:01 GMT
#71
Ok, getting a lot of feedback saying that achievement points and won career games shouldn't count for the player value. Putting more thought into this, I think achievement points already cover the PvE-part of the game in a numeric value and my player value should only include PvP values.

League * Ladderpoints, would this be enough? Any more ideas?

League * Ladderpoints * WLR would be another option, rewarding quality over quantity of games.
Mateo0
Profile Joined August 2010
France112 Posts
August 28 2010 14:02 GMT
#72
Cool job.
I have an issue, which profile url exactly do you have to enter. When I enter this :
http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/303586/1/Mateo/
to add a player it says : invalid profile url.
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EliteAzn
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States661 Posts
August 28 2010 20:26 GMT
#73
I like the 2nd one (league*ladder*WLR) more than the first.
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bObaZ
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
Portugal862 Posts
August 29 2010 13:39 GMT
#74
Is it possible to create a 2on2 Ranking like this one?

This idea is awesome. We use it to keep track of all our country players (we are a small country afterall)

Thnx for this
dhe95
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1213 Posts
August 29 2010 14:45 GMT
#75
This is very nice lol we should have our own TL.net division, see how you rank compared to TL
Leidenschafft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany103 Posts
August 29 2010 14:51 GMT
#76
Player Value updated to league*ladderpoints*WLR
kirkybaby
Profile Joined May 2010
Korea (South)781 Posts
August 29 2010 15:05 GMT
#77
very nice work leidenschafft, another thank you from a fan/user
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Oglokoog
Profile Joined August 2010
Czech Republic35 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-29 15:24:36
August 29 2010 15:23 GMT
#78
I made a division for a discussion server that I'm on, but despite showing the number of members as 24, it only displays the stats for the first 20. Is this intentional?

(http://sc2divisions.com/custom/nyx-cz/262)
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TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
August 29 2010 16:08 GMT
#79
There is a bug preventing all players from being shown.

http://sc2divisions.com/custom/starcraft-org/254

I have 8 players, but only 6 are shown.
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Leidenschafft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany103 Posts
August 29 2010 16:14 GMT
#80
Looking into the missing players issue right now
EliteAzn
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States661 Posts
August 29 2010 22:33 GMT
#81
Still wondering if you can change the symbol to 1v1 only....(For example, my 1v1 race is Zerg, but for everything else, it's Random...and since I play a bunch more XvX games (where X>1) than 1s, my symbol is random...)

Other than that, the site is amazing and great job!
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birdkicker
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States752 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-29 22:45:31
August 29 2010 22:36 GMT
#82
Hey everyone i made a competitive TL custom division. Just reply if u want to join. I already have 2 Medium diamond players.

http://sc2divisions.com/custom/teamliquid/274
Kinsman
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada18 Posts
August 29 2010 22:55 GMT
#83
I would love to be in that, I'm mid platinum (from lack of playing, mostly). My url is http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/371744/1/Kinsman/

Also would just like to add that this is amazing, huge props to the OP for the fantastic job.
birdkicker
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States752 Posts
August 30 2010 00:15 GMT
#84
Added! . Hopefully more people will join, as a division can't really be a competitive one unless there are more players.
Leidenschafft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany103 Posts
August 30 2010 07:26 GMT
#85
Seeing more and more communities using sc2divisions.com for their sc2 ranking I'd like to add even more value with the ability to link back to forum profiles/accounts per player. I don't know how to include this into the interface yet, but it should help to connect differing accountnames.
Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany2959 Posts
August 30 2010 13:50 GMT
#86
Hey there,
that's really a great feature/site man.

However would it be possible to display it all as one image that also keeps the same link? So that when you're at a fan site or so and have a dedicated thread for the custom league of that forum you can always have an up-to-date (daily or another frequency) ladder image?

That would improve the user friendliness a lot I think. But of course that'll be much harder to code I suppose. Perhaps limit it to smaller leagues with like max. 20 members or simply only make the image display the top 20?
Something like tha would be really great.

Thanks in advance ;P
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Cajun2k1
Profile Joined May 2010
Netherlands399 Posts
August 30 2010 13:52 GMT
#87
Blizzard does have his way to implement user created content into their games, see WoW and how some addons were implemented. Though it could take them a long time. But very nice feature there, thanks for all the effort you've put into it.
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Leidenschafft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany103 Posts
August 31 2010 09:33 GMT
#88
Issue with not always showing all players has been solved. Only occured if your division had more than one member with no 1v1 ranking, just showed the first one there.

Also added race distribution to the stats.
TheGrimace
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States929 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-31 09:55:22
August 31 2010 09:53 GMT
#89
I created a division, but now it simply says "division not found" though I see the name. When I click on it, I have no options available. I looked at the populated lists people posted earlier in this thread, and with those I see the option to enter the password and modify the list, but with my list I have no options. What am I doing wrong?
Stibbs
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia3 Posts
August 31 2010 10:05 GMT
#90
On August 31 2010 18:53 TheGrimace wrote:
I created a division, but now it simply says "division not found" though I see the name. When I click on it, I have no options available. I looked at the populated lists people posted earlier in this thread, and with those I see the option to enter the password and modify the list, but with my list I have no options. What am I doing wrong?


I also have this problem. Do we just have to wait, or has something gone wrong?
Odge
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden84 Posts
August 31 2010 10:06 GMT
#91
On August 31 2010 18:53 TheGrimace wrote:
I created a division, but now it simply says "division not found" though I see the name. When I click on it, I have no options available. I looked at the populated lists people posted earlier in this thread, and with those I see the option to enter the password and modify the list, but with my list I have no options. What am I doing wrong?


This
Sad[Panda]
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States458 Posts
August 31 2010 10:20 GMT
#92
On August 31 2010 18:53 TheGrimace wrote:
I created a division, but now it simply says "division not found" though I see the name. When I click on it, I have no options available. I looked at the populated lists people posted earlier in this thread, and with those I see the option to enter the password and modify the list, but with my list I have no options. What am I doing wrong?


this also :[
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Leidenschafft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany103 Posts
August 31 2010 10:53 GMT
#93
On August 31 2010 18:53 TheGrimace wrote:
I created a division, but now it simply says "division not found" though I see the name. When I click on it, I have no options available. I looked at the populated lists people posted earlier in this thread, and with those I see the option to enter the password and modify the list, but with my list I have no options. What am I doing wrong?


sorry, my fault. FIXED
TheGrimace
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States929 Posts
August 31 2010 11:09 GMT
#94
Thanks man, I'm really impressed with what you've done here. It's pretty easy to get custom leagues going. I've added my friends from my LAN and everything is clearly tiered. Thanks for your efforts, very cool project. Hope Blizzard can manage to match your efforts!
Sad[Panda]
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States458 Posts
September 01 2010 01:33 GMT
#95
What if you forgot your master password T.T
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InfiniteIce
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States794 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-01 01:42:54
September 01 2010 01:41 GMT
#96
This exists on sc2ranks.com if that has not already been posted.

Edit: http://sc2ranks.com/custom_create is the more direct URL.
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spheresword
Profile Joined May 2010
14 Posts
September 01 2010 04:15 GMT
#97
Has anyone posted on the blizzard forums to implement custom divisions yet?
SilentCrono
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1420 Posts
September 01 2010 04:17 GMT
#98
sc2ranks.com has this but i tried making one it didnt work
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Shadowed
Profile Joined August 2010
United States679 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-01 05:00:17
September 01 2010 04:59 GMT
#99
On September 01 2010 13:17 SilentCrono wrote:
sc2ranks.com has this but i tried making one it didnt work


If something doesn't work, please post it in the SC2Ranks topic with more details and I'll look into it.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=141629

[edit] Just tried, it worked fine for me. The URL InfiniteIce posted wasn't going to work, although I fixed it so it would.
Leidenschafft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany103 Posts
September 01 2010 07:57 GMT
#100
On September 01 2010 10:33 Sad[Panda] wrote:
What if you forgot your master password T.T


PM me, i can reset the password for you. There is no other option right now.
pRo9aMeR
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
595 Posts
September 01 2010 08:24 GMT
#101
Excellent idea...+1
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sMi.EternaL
Profile Joined June 2010
United States162 Posts
September 01 2010 08:40 GMT
#102
I haven't been able to add anyone. It keeps saying invalid profile URL.

I've copied/pasted sc2ranks and the official bnet profiles to no avail.

Could you put a fast/small tutorial of where we're supposed to get the urls from in the OP in case other people are as retarded as I am lol
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TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10670 Posts
September 01 2010 08:45 GMT
#103
great idea for teams i love this~
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disco
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Netherlands1667 Posts
September 01 2010 08:56 GMT
#104
Loving it, thanks for this!
this game is a fucking jokie
OopsOopsBaby
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Singapore3425 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-01 10:49:49
September 01 2010 10:38 GMT
#105
this looks great im using it for the singapore community thread right now. sorry whats the value on the last column for?
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Leidenschafft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany103 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-01 11:05:26
September 01 2010 11:04 GMT
#106
On September 01 2010 19:38 yongming wrote:
this looks great im using it for the singapore community thread right now. sorry whats the value on the last column for?


Player Value = League * Ladder Points * WLR

On September 01 2010 17:40 sMi.EternaL wrote:
I haven't been able to add anyone. It keeps saying invalid profile URL.

I've copied/pasted sc2ranks and the official bnet profiles to no avail.

Could you put a fast/small tutorial of where we're supposed to get the urls from in the OP in case other people are as retarded as I am lol


battle.net profile urls - can you give me some examples which don't work?
TheGrimace
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States929 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-01 11:49:22
September 01 2010 11:17 GMT
#107
When I go to my division, my profile isn't updated. I was promoted to Diamond about 3 hours ago, but it isn't reflected on the division page. Clicking "update all" doesn't fix it.

Edit: Fixed. My profile was up to date at the time, but I just checked my custom division and it was fixed. I guess there is just a delay.
FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
September 01 2010 11:24 GMT
#108
On September 01 2010 20:17 TheGrimace wrote:
When I go to my division, my profile isn't updated. I was promoted to Diamond about 3 hours ago, but it isn't reflected on the division page. Clicking "update all" doesn't fix it.


is your battle.net profile already up to date?
Kevmeister @ Dota2
bud_b
Profile Joined August 2010
Turkey4 Posts
September 01 2010 11:35 GMT
#109
This is really a great service.

I find blizzard's idea behind the divisions some what acceptable (the deal about being #1234342 over all not making much sense). But i hate that i can not compare myself with my friends. Your custom division seems to be a perfect solution for this problem! :D
OopsOopsBaby
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Singapore3425 Posts
September 01 2010 11:48 GMT
#110
On September 01 2010 20:04 Leidenschafft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2010 19:38 yongming wrote:
this looks great im using it for the singapore community thread right now. sorry whats the value on the last column for?


Player Value = League * Ladder Points * WLR

Show nested quote +
On September 01 2010 17:40 sMi.EternaL wrote:
I haven't been able to add anyone. It keeps saying invalid profile URL.

I've copied/pasted sc2ranks and the official bnet profiles to no avail.

Could you put a fast/small tutorial of where we're supposed to get the urls from in the OP in case other people are as retarded as I am lol


battle.net profile urls - can you give me some examples which don't work?

ic. any reason why didnt choose to rank by value?
s3x2-2 xiao3x2+2 bone3+2+2
Leidenschafft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany103 Posts
September 01 2010 12:24 GMT
#111
On September 01 2010 20:48 yongming wrote:
ic. any reason why didnt choose to rank by value?


hm, player value was added later, and it is something new.
i don't know if i should sort by a value not everyone knows intuitively as default - you will be able to sort by every column you want to at some point in the future.
EliteAzn
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States661 Posts
September 01 2010 17:59 GMT
#112
On August 30 2010 07:33 EliteAzn wrote:
Still wondering if you can change the symbol to 1v1 only....(For example, my 1v1 race is Zerg, but for everything else, it's Random...and since I play a bunch more XvX games (where X>1) than 1s, my symbol is random...)

Other than that, the site is amazing and great job!


Since this hasn't been fix yet...maybe a suggestion if it can't be fixed: With password, let user change the race being shown?
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Malabyte
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway75 Posts
September 01 2010 18:04 GMT
#113
As a clan list, I think this is a great idea but also already considered by Blizzard for their future clan system.
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Leidenschafft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany103 Posts
September 01 2010 18:35 GMT
#114
On September 02 2010 02:59 EliteAzn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2010 07:33 EliteAzn wrote:
Still wondering if you can change the symbol to 1v1 only....(For example, my 1v1 race is Zerg, but for everything else, it's Random...and since I play a bunch more XvX games (where X>1) than 1s, my symbol is random...)

Other than that, the site is amazing and great job!


Since this hasn't been fix yet...maybe a suggestion if it can't be fixed: With password, let user change the race being shown?


This will get fixed soon
HavoK.
Profile Joined March 2010
United States172 Posts
September 01 2010 19:33 GMT
#115
This is a really good idea props for thinking of it and i hope that everyone at least considers it and how it would be absolutly amazing addon to the the current state of b.net 2
nVusZah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States64 Posts
September 01 2010 20:23 GMT
#116
This is brilliant. Thanks for doing this. Keep it up!
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Demosthen3s
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands73 Posts
September 06 2010 22:22 GMT
#117
Thanks Leidenschafft.

I made two groups of my friends really happy with our own division.

When are stats being updated, should it be live or daily? Some of our scores are outdated and pressing the "update all" button doesn't seem to work.
Carpathian392
Profile Joined September 2010
12 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-07 08:37:47
September 07 2010 08:32 GMT
#118
Hello,

I'm trying to add http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/196237/1/Carpathian/ to my division but it says "Invalid profile URL"

What am I doing wrong?

EDIT: After a refresh, it looks like it did add the profile but instead of posting success it gave me that error, you might want to look into that.
3clipse
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Canada2555 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-07 08:50:09
September 07 2010 08:49 GMT
#119
This is awesome.

Unfortunately for us, the purpose of bnet2.0 is not to ease the compiling of meaningful statistics, but rather to obscure said data behind achievement points, arbitrary division separations, and division rank. The only number with any meaning is hidden from the primary profile pages and even THIS isn't one's true MMR.

The only thing more pathetic is that IT WORKS. I wish I could dismiss their tactics as absurd, but a couple of my irl friends who are awful at the game believe their 47 Silver rating means that they are 47th in North America. Way to feed the egos of the ignorant, Blizzard.
EliteAzn
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States661 Posts
September 17 2010 22:57 GMT
#120
On September 02 2010 03:35 Leidenschafft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2010 02:59 EliteAzn wrote:
On August 30 2010 07:33 EliteAzn wrote:
Still wondering if you can change the symbol to 1v1 only....(For example, my 1v1 race is Zerg, but for everything else, it's Random...and since I play a bunch more XvX games (where X>1) than 1s, my symbol is random...)

Other than that, the site is amazing and great job!


Since this hasn't been fix yet...maybe a suggestion if it can't be fixed: With password, let user change the race being shown?


This will get fixed soon


Just looking for a status update

Keep up the good work
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TheEpicLolz
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada72 Posts
September 18 2010 00:07 GMT
#121
Why oh why can we not have more people like you? D:
Lol :D
Shade_FR
Profile Joined June 2010
France378 Posts
October 04 2010 16:41 GMT
#122
Awesome website.
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OPSavioR
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden1465 Posts
October 04 2010 17:17 GMT
#123
thats so smart!
i dunno lol
Hunch
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada336 Posts
October 04 2010 17:18 GMT
#124
i love how there are like millions of SC2 sites are just poping up everywher with lots of good information or tools like this
I have a Hunch.770
EliteGaming
Profile Joined June 2009
Dominican Republic97 Posts
October 22 2010 20:22 GMT
#125
WEB EMBEDDING PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

i want to embed the rank in the sidebar of my web ex:
Top 1: <race icon><playername><divisionleague><realm><rank><w/l><ratio>
Top 2: <race icon><playername><divisionleague><realm><rank><w/l><ratio>
and so on.

-Copyright/Powered by sc2divisions.com
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zoOv
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Australia269 Posts
November 06 2010 12:23 GMT
#126
Everytime I click something on the website an ad pop-up appears.. quite annoying.
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Strutswell
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada47 Posts
November 07 2010 22:37 GMT
#127
I prefer this site: http://www.sc2ranks.com/custom

Couple friends have setup a custom division here since we already use sc2ranks.com

and no annoying pop-ups!
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ESL.Templar
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany3 Posts
January 14 2011 11:10 GMT
#128
Can you integrate the Master's League into your system? By now all players in ML get the value of 0, which probably is because you didn't implement the multiplier for Master's League, I guess.

Would be great! Other than that, I love your site! Keep up the good work.

Greetz,
Templar
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