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SilentCrono
United States1420 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On August 04 2010 10:11 RifleCow wrote: I hope in future MLG events the map pool will be changed up to non-blizzard maps. Watching the same maps day in and day out is going to get boring imo. Plus, imbalanced... I think moving in that direction is only possible after MLG establishes themselves on the tournament scene. As it stands, if the tournament doesn't have a big presence on the scene, it's not going to be very convincing for people to practice on non-ladder maps when virtually every other tournament is using the ladder ones. On August 04 2010 10:03 chekthehek wrote: Maps Blistering Sands Delta Quadrant Desert Oasis Kulas Ravine Lost Temple Metalopolis Steppes of War lol Would you rather have Scrap Station or Xel'Naga Caverns? If we're limited to ladder maps, the map pool really can't get much better. Though IMO Crossfire should be added somewhere. | ||
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RifleCow
Canada637 Posts
On August 04 2010 10:14 TheYango wrote: I think moving in that direction is only possible after MLG establishes themselves on the tournament scene. As it stands, if the tournament doesn't have a big presence on the scene, it's not going to be very convincing for people to practice on non-ladder maps when virtually every other tournament is using the ladder ones. I would really like to see some universally established source of maps that will be standardized accross all tournaments, sorta like the Proleague, OSL/MSL maps. It would be real cool if there was one community or group that every community would go to for maps then we could have like new maps every season. | ||
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kzn
United States1218 Posts
On August 04 2010 10:14 TheYango wrote: Would you rather have Scrap Station or Xel'Naga Caverns? If we're limited to ladder maps, the map pool really can't get much better. Though IMO Crossfire should be added somewhere. I'd take Scrap Station over DO at any time for any reason. | ||
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Backpack
United States1776 Posts
On August 04 2010 10:11 RifleCow wrote: I hope in future MLG events the map pool will be changed up to non-blizzard maps. Watching the same maps day in and day out is going to get boring imo. Plus, imbalanced... They would have to announce this way more than 24 days ahead of time. | ||
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FragKrag
United States11556 Posts
Desert Oasis despite being weird creates some of the most interesting games so I'd like it to stay. Not sure why Twilight Caverns isn't in though. | ||
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InfiniteIce
United States794 Posts
On August 04 2010 09:37 TheYango wrote: As has been stated before, both of these cause a logistics nightmare. In particular, a scenario was cited where hardware failures occurred at a WoW event due to poor management of PS/2 hardware. It's not like these 2 rules are arbitrary--they've likely come about due to managing events for other PC games. I have highlighted, in bold, the relevant part of your response. This is NOT A FAILURE OF THE HARDWARE. You said it yourself. This is poor management. fix the management, don't start making arbitrary rules. The rules ARE arbitrary. Failure to manage is not failure of hardware. Shape up. Banning the Logitech mini optical, and USB headsets, is, to be completely and clearly blunt, fucking stupid. This rule, to me, screams of what we all thought of chat channels during beta. "Blizz can't moderate them, so they don't allow/implement chat channels." "MLG can't handle managing PS/2 devices, so they don't allow them." Don't. Cop. Out. | ||
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thopol
Japan4560 Posts
Also what's with the no sponsors thing? How can we have esports without teams? How can we have teams without sponsors? This move undermines what we all want to see from the game. I'd rather have Kespa than MLG... | ||
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floor exercise
Canada5847 Posts
On August 04 2010 10:28 FragKrag wrote: Scrap Station is absolutely terrible in PvZ T_T Desert Oasis despite being weird creates some of the most interesting games so I'd like it to stay. Not sure why Twilight Caverns isn't in though. xelnaga caverns is much better than DO or Scrap Station. The only modification I'd make is to make the nats a little closer to the mains. Scrap will always be an awful Paranoid Android and DO will always be shit. It might be more entertaining for the viewers if the competitors play while being raked over hot coals but that doesn't mean MLG should do it | ||
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Adila
United States874 Posts
On August 04 2010 10:35 thopol wrote: Wait, so lots of equipment specifications with no rules against equipment with macro features? Also what's with the no sponsors thing? How can we have esports without teams? How can we have teams without sponsors? This move undermines what we all want to see from the game. I'd rather have Kespa than MLG... If you ever watched the MLG Warcraft streams, sponsored teams won't be an issue really. They put it in the rules so they can respond if they have to deal with a special case. | ||
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rauk
United States2228 Posts
On August 04 2010 10:32 InfiniteIce wrote: Failure to manage is not failure of hardware. Shape up. Banning the Logitech mini optical, and USB headsets, is, to be completely and clearly blunt, fucking stupid. did you bother reading the thread? usb headsets are banned because for WOW they patch into the player's audio and team chat, which apparently they can't do if they're using usb. they can use the logitech minioptical all they want if they have a ps2 to usb converter. | ||
MLG_Lee
279 Posts
http://www.computer-engineering.org/ps2protocol/ Note the section on Electrical interface. The PS/2 Interface is an unregulated power interface. Hot PLUGGING or UNPLUGGING can result in shorting out the motherboard. HP isn't a sponsor anymore but I'm still going to defend it. The Blackbird has an ASUS motherboard in it. ASUS doesn't make crap. This is a known proven issue. Not one we're imagining. This rule isn't changing. I've explained why. I've linked you a top google search result. What more proof do you need? :D RE: USB headphones. This is a requirement for broadcast and tournament flow reasons. Feel free to speculate. To InfiniteIce. Love you too bud. We're hardly copping out. Read the rest of the threads. Reasons have been explained. | ||
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Joseki
United States200 Posts
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Leeoku
1617 Posts
also, isnt alota usb stuff just plugn play | ||
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UniversalSnip
9871 Posts
On August 04 2010 10:14 TheYango wrote: I think moving in that direction is only possible after MLG establishes themselves on the tournament scene. As it stands, if the tournament doesn't have a big presence on the scene, it's not going to be very convincing for people to practice on non-ladder maps when virtually every other tournament is using the ladder ones. Use bw maps... let's face it, everybody who is good this early on has at least played bw enough to know the outlines of them. The ladder maps blow. | ||
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scottyyy
United Kingdom796 Posts
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Belegorm
United States330 Posts
Honestly though, they really need to be using some better maps in tournaments, especially the big ones. Like Destination, the other BW remakes, the iCCup maps, and MorroW's maps like Argutaris (which he really needs to get more people playing soon, btw, if he really wants the map tested properly). | ||
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FragKrag
United States11556 Posts
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Backpack
United States1776 Posts
On August 04 2010 11:39 FragKrag wrote: Why the hell would you use unproven BW remakes? It's not like anything transitions directly over from BW to SC2 jesus Plus we've all been playing ladder maps for the past 6 months. Not BW remakes | ||
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andeh
United States904 Posts
also what if i prefer to use 4:3 ratio at home instead of 16 : 9? Sure 16 : 9 sees more but what if 4:3 what was I was used to I cant imagine cs/quake players being forced to use a certain resolution or video settings. Never mind hotkeys. This kind of makes it a joke. At least ESL will be good. | ||
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